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[JazzNU]

Also with the Dems winning the PA House, we have a new speaker. First woman ever to hold the position. So, so proud!

[ponchi101]

Serious here.
What is the difference (at least in the USA) between a "Progressive" and a "Liberal"? Never mind Bernie Progressive or regular progressive.
Txs

[dryrunguy]

Serious here.
What is the difference (at least in the USA) between a "Progressive" and a "Liberal"? Never mind Bernie Progressive or regular progressive.
Txs

I don't think that's easily quantified, ponchi. But in crude terms, a liberal typically supports the social safety net, Social Security, law enforcement, the environment, etc. A progressive supports many of the same things as a liberal but tends to take things several steps farther, e.g., guaranteed income, defund the police, Green New Deal, pay off our student loans for the education we couldn't afford, etc. Think of many progressives as a liberal on steroids.

But neither group is a one-size-fits-all for everyone who calls themselves a particular term.

[JazzNU]

Serious here.
What is the difference (at least in the USA) between a "Progressive" and a "Liberal"? Never mind Bernie Progressive or regular progressive.
Txs

I don't think that's easily quantified, ponchi. But in crude terms, a liberal typically supports the social safety net, Social Security, law enforcement, the environment, etc. A progressive supports many of the same things as a liberal but tends to take things several steps farther, e.g., guaranteed income, defund the police, Green New Deal, pay off our student loans for the education we couldn't afford, etc. Think of many progressives as a liberal on steroids.

But neither group is a one-size-fits-all for everyone who calls themselves a particular term.

Awesome answer.

[ponchi101]

Thanks. Sounds a bit like "Liberals without a grasp of reality".
Which is what we have here.

[dryrunguy]

Thanks. Sounds a bit like "Liberals without a grasp of reality".
Which is what we have here.

I don't know. It's not that they necessarily don't have a grasp on reality. What they don't have a grasp for is the broader public's lack of appetite or tolerance for significant change. Just as the far right has its bubbles, the far left does, too.

[ti-amie]

Why do they lie about everything?

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[Owendonovan]

It's just, so stupid. I know people go for it, but how did they lose all the built in mental/emotional safeguards?

[ponchi101]

@Owen. As the last skeptic in this forum, let me know if you want my opinion over a PM.

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[dryrunguy]

Seriously. Who woulda thunk it? I still want Warnock, though. Which from time to time could make Manchin or Sinema irrelevant.

[Suliso]

Hopefully Trump still runs in 2024.