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Since when is it necessary for an acting defense secretary to order a carrier to return home from deployment? And coming just 10 days after the Pentagon trumpeted USS #NIMITZ' arrival off Somalia. #gamegamesgamesgames https://defense.gov/Newsroom/Releases/R ... vDelivery/ preceded by https://navy.mil/Press-Office/Press-Rel ... ve-quartz/
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Day 2: Release the Mueller report in full, sans the corrections and blackouts.
Day 3: Get a copy of his tax returns. Deliver to CIA/FBI/NSA for analysis. Send back to IRS after recommendations.
Day 4: Go after Ivanka. Don Jr and the other idiot he could not care less.
Day 5: have a picture of you, taken as if by coincidence, reading a document that reads something like "What amounts to treason in the USA". Make sure the title is visible and the shot is taken in like super HD.

You can do it, Joe. And remember: appeasement never works. Remember Chamberlain.
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You can do it, Joe. And remember: appeasement never works. Remember Chamberlain.
Say it again for the folks in the back. This is not a time for politics as usual.
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Biden won't do it - he may not pardon Trump, but he's not going to waste his 4 years investigating him.
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The Daily 202: Conservatives fear Trump’s plot to overturn loss will ‘imperil the electoral college’
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Jan. 5, 2021 at 11:20 a.m. EST
with Mariana Alfaro

Rep. Chip Roy (R-Tex.) was Sen. Ted Cruz’s chief of staff before winning a House seat in 2018. This week, he has emerged as a leader of the conservatives who are fighting back against an effort to block the certification of President-elect Joe Biden’s victory – spearheaded in the Senate by his former boss – that they see as a radical, cynical and myopic.

Roy, a member of the House Freedom Caucus, persuaded six of the most committed conservatives in the House to sign onto a statement he drafted Sunday that makes a blunt case for counting all the electors submitted by the states. The centerpiece of his argument is that failing to do so will create dangerous precedents and open a Pandora’s box that would eventually doom the electoral college.

“From a purely partisan perspective, Republican presidential candidates have won the national popular vote only once in the last 32 years,” Roy wrote in his statement. “They have therefore depended on the electoral college for nearly all presidential victories in the last generation. If we perpetuate the notion that Congress may disregard certified electoral votes — based solely on its own assessment that one or more states mishandled the presidential election — we will be delegitimizing the very system that led Donald Trump to victory in 2016, and that could provide the only path to victory in 2024.”

The other signatories are Reps. Kelly Armstrong (R-N.D.), Ken Buck (R-Colo.), Mike Gallagher (R-Wis.), Nancy Mace (R-S.C.), Thomas Massie (R-Ky.) and Tom McClintock (R-Calif.).

Sen. Tom Cotton (R-Ark.) has also emphasized the imperative for Republicans to safeguard the sanctity of the electoral college in opposing Cruz and Co. “Congress would imperil the Electoral College, which gives small states like Arkansas a voice in presidential elections,” he said in a statement. “Democrats could achieve their long-standing goal of eliminating the Electoral College in effect by refusing to count electoral votes in the future for a Republican president-elect.”

Sen. Mike Lee (R-Utah) forwarded Roy’s statement to the Senate Republican Conference. “With respect to presidential elections, there is no authority for Congress to make value judgments in the abstract regarding any state’s election laws or the manner in which they have been implemented,” Lee emailed his colleagues on Monday.

This message was seen as giving cover to other Republicans because Lee, whose father was President Ronald Reagan’s solicitor general, helped devise President Trump’s impeachment defense strategy in the Senate last year. Lee even appeared at Trump’s rally in Georgia on Monday night, where he was chastised by the president for not trying to overturn the election results.

Speaking at Trump’s Georgia rally, Kelly Loeffler – whose name appears on the ballot in today’s runoff – became the 13th GOP senator to publicly announce that she will oppose certifying Biden’s victory. She declared that she is going to try to get the legally certified electoral votes from her own state thrown out, as opposed to letting them be counted for Biden. The effort will fail. But it is notable that Loeffler is willing to effectively disenfranchise the 10.62 million people she is supposed to represent – since she has tied her political fortunes entirely to the lame-duck Trump.

In this vein, Roy did something else clever on Sunday evening as the new Congress was sworn in. To make a point, he objected to the swearing-in of all members from the six states where Trump falsely claims the vote was rigged. This forced the House to vote on whether the lawmakers who were on the same ballot with the president – and won their races – should be allowed to take the oath. Naturally, Republicans wanted to seat their members from Georgia, Arizona, Michigan, Nevada, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. The vote was 371 to 2 to say that all of their elections were legitimate.

“It would confound reason if the presidential results of these states were to face objection while the congressional results of the same process escaped public scrutiny,” Roy said. “Those representatives were elected through the very same systems – with the same ballot procedures, with the same signature validations, with the same broadly applied decisions of executive and judicial branch officials – as were the electors chosen for the president of the United States under the laws of those states.”

“On a conference call last Thursday, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell told his caucus that, in his 36 Senate years, he has twice cast votes to take the nation to war and once to remove a president, but that the vote he will cast this Wednesday to certify [Biden’s victory] will be the most important of his career,” legendary conservative columnist George Will reports. “The day before McConnell’s somber statement, Missouri’s freshman Republican senator, Josh Hawley, announced that on Wednesday, 14 days before Biden will be inaugurated, he will challenge the validity of Biden’s election. Hawley’s conscience regarding electoral proprieties compels him to stroke this erogenous zone of the GOP’s 2024 presidential nominating electorate. …

“Hawley — has there ever been such a high ratio of ambition to accomplishment? — and Cruz have already nimbly begun to monetize their high-mindedness through fundraising appeals,” Will continues. “On Wednesday, the members of the Hawley-Cruz cohort will violate the oath of office in which they swore to defend the Constitution from enemies ‘foreign and domestic.’ They are its most dangerous domestic enemies.”

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Pro-Trump forums erupt with violent threats ahead of Wednesday’s rally against the 2020 election
Posters respond to Trump’s prediction of “wild" day with discussion of potential bloodshed and advice on sneaking guns into D.C.

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Enrique Tarrio, leader of the Proud Boys, center, gathers with demonstrators during a rally in D.C. on Dec. 12. He was arrested Jan. 4 for vandalizing a Black Lives Matter banner in December. (Graeme Sloan/Bloomberg News)

Note: Via Wiki: Tarrio is said to self identify as Afro-Cuban. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enrique_Tarrio

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Jan. 5, 2021 at 12:57 p.m. EST

Far-right online forums are seething with references to potential violence and urging supporters of President Trump to bring guns to Wednesday’s protests in Washington — in violation of local laws — as Congress meets to certify President-elect Joe Biden’s victory.

Many of the posts appear to be direct responses to Trump’s demands that his supporters pack the nation’s capital in support of his bogus claims that November’s national vote for Biden resulted from election fraud. Congress’s largely ceremonial role in confirming Biden’s victory has emerged as a catalyst for expected unrest that has D.C. police and the National Guard deploying on city streets to quell potential trouble.

Talk of guns and potential violence is rife on the encrypted messaging app Telegram, the conservative social media site Parler and on thedonald.win, an online forum that previously operated on Reddit before the company banned it in June after years of racism, misogyny, anti-Semitism and calls for violence.

Trump’s tweet last month pushing baseless fraud claims and promoting the “big protest” on Jan. 6 — “Be there, will be wild!” — has become a central rallying cry. It was the top post on thedonald.win Tuesday morning, and anonymous commenters saw it as a call to action: “We’ve got marching orders,” the top reply said.

Discussion in the thread followed about how most effectively to sneak guns into Washington, laced with occasional references to using them. D.C. has some of the nation’s strictest gun laws: Openly carrying guns is banned, concealed-carry licenses from other states aren’t recognized, and all firearms in the District must be registered with local police.

Of carrying guns in D.C., one poster in the thread wrote, “Yes, it’s illegal, but this is war and we’re clearly in a post-legal phase of our society.” Wrote another: “LIVE AS A FREE AMERICAN AND BRING YOUR ARMS!”

More than half of the top 50 posts on thedonald.win’s homepage Monday related to Wednesday’s certification featured calls of violence within the top five comments, according to research by Advance Democracy, a group headed by former FBI analyst and Senate investigator Daniel J. Jones, who lead the review of the CIA’s torture program.

The group said thedonald.win had more than 18 million visits in November, and the recent posts with calls for violence had more than 40,000 engagements. One particularly troubling post said protesters should travel in groups that should “not let [anyone] disarm someone without stacking bodies.” It added that protesters should be “ARMED WITH RIFLE, HANDGUN, 2 KNIVES AND AS MUCH AMMO AS YOU CAN CARRY.”

In one thread promoted by moderators Tuesday morning, titled “GOOD LUCK PATRIOTS, THE EYES OF THE WORLD LOOK UPON YOU NOW!!!,” posters shared tactical guides on how to avoid police blockades and D.C. gun laws, including: “If you plan on carrying concealed, don’t tell anyone you have a gun.” One commenter responded, “We The People, will not tolerate a Steal. No retreat, No Surrender. Restore to my President what you stole or reap the consequences!!!”

Moderators for thedonald.win did not respond to requests for comment.

Researchers expressed concern that the roiling political atmosphere is being fueled by Trump’s unfounded claims about the integrity of the election that have swirled on far-right online forums for two months.

“You have what disinformation researchers have worried about for years, which is people becoming motivated to action by lies,” said Joan Donovan, the research director at Harvard Kennedy School’s Shorenstein Center on Media, Politics and Public Policy.

References to guns and potential violence also have become routine on Telegram and Parler, according to the Coalition for a Safer Web, a nonprofit group that advocates for technologies and policies to remove extreme content from social media. It cited a Parler post from last week, by an account touting the QAnon conspiracy theory, that said, “To all the Patriots descending on Washington DC on #jan6 ....come armed....”

A number of posts on Parler and thedonald.win voiced anti-police messages and slammed “Coptifa” — a combination of “cop” and “antifa,” the far-left protest movement. “WE THE PEOPLE … are through with you,” said one expletive-filled post on Parler. “To all our enemies high and low you want a war? Well your asking for one. … To the American people on the ground in DC today and all over this great nation, be prepared for anything. … Now we are here. Now they get what they want.”

Parler’s chief operating officer, Jeffrey Wernick, declined to comment.

The arrest of Proud Boys leader Enrique Tarrio on Monday, for charges related to the burning of a historically Black church’s Black Lives Matter flag in a protest last month, has further inflamed far-right conversations online, said Eric Feinberg, vice president for content moderation for the Coalition for a Safer Web.

“You don’t know who’s going to get radicalized by this,” Feinberg said. “The next three days, I’m really worried about what could happen.”

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Mayor Bowser has advised residents of DC to stay in and not mount any counter protests.
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There is major drama going on in the Pennsylvania state senate as GOP'ers are refusing or have refused to swear in a newly elected Democrat. I'm going to start here but things may be out of sequence.

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Welp.

Republican majority of the Pennsylvania State Senate just removed @JohnFetterman from the chamber. President Pro Temp Corman is presiding instead. Fetterman refused to recognize a motion that would have prevented a duly elected Democratic senator from being sworn in.

Jake Corman is sworn in as President Pro Temp of the Pennsylvania State Senate after kicking out of the chamber the President of the Senate Lt. Gov. Fetterman and refusing to seat Jim Brewster who won his elections. "Quite a first day," he jokes.

For those of you who aren’t super familiar with what’s going on in PA that makes all of this so much more mind bending: before covid the *Republican* majority enacted a major election reform bill that expanded vote by mail. *They* set the rules. Now *they* are crying foul.

Minority Leader Jay Acosta rises in opposition to Corman as President Pro Temp. He is talking about what just happened to Senator Brewster. Acosta makes a good point: Brewster's swearing in wasn't delayed but denied. There is no future date. The result was *certified*.

I don't have the most experience in watching the Pennsylvania state senate but I can't say that I've *ever* seen something like what just happened. To be clear: the 45th district seat is *empty* as they are reading roll call now despite a certified election winner in the chamber.

Under Corman's presiding, all results but in the 45th district were read. The election of Jim Brewster was not recognized.
@SenTonyWilliams shouted the results in that race, showing Brewster's win, to the chamber as Corman moved to start the Republican senators' swearing in.

Corman is moving to administer the oath of office to Democratic senators. Brewster is on the floor.

Corman asking the judge to wait until Corman leaves.

Fetterman: Senator Brewster is the certified winner of his district!

Corman: he was not read

Williams: I read the results!

Jim Brewster, mensch, asked that all other Democratic senators be sworn in. He didn't want the issue around his election to take away from the celebratory nature of the day for others, according to Williams. They are sworn in, including @NikilSaval of Philadelphia.
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The Republican State Senator in Pennsylvania just set a very dangerous precedent: as long as your opponent refuses to concede, you will not be sworn in. No matter that the *highest court in the state* already said the election is Kosher.
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Meanwhile...

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EPA today announced a new rule to limit the agency's use of science, which critics say aims to weaken future air pollution & water regs by limiting the use of research that relies on medical records or other private data @kelseybrugger

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ti-amie wrote: Tue Jan 05, 2021 7:14 pm Pro-Trump forums erupt with violent threats ahead of Wednesday’s rally against the 2020 election
Posters respond to Trump’s prediction of “wild" day with discussion of potential bloodshed and advice on sneaking guns into D.C.
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Trump’s tweet last month pushing baseless fraud claims and promoting the “big protest” on Jan. 6 ...
by Trump’s unfounded claims ...
Baseless fraud claims...
unfounded claims...

There must be a word for that, right? I don't know, lies?

Why can't the press just say it?

The major of DC better have the National Guard ready.
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Wait, the leader of the Proud Boys is Afro-Latino? Is this real life?
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We've got a ****show in PA today.


Republican senators refuse to seat Democratic Senator Jim Brewster, who won re-election in November
On Tuesday, Pennsylvania Republicans refused to seat Brewster, who won re-election in November. Republicans also forcefully seized control of the proceedings by removing the Democratic lieutenant governor John Fetterman from presiding over the session after Fetterman insisted on swearing in Brewster for a new term.


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No matter what we think of her politics this woman was a full partner in a white shoe law firm. She's now a pariah in her profession. #ETTD

Cleta Mitchell, who advised Trump on Saturday phone call, resigns from law firm

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Jan. 5, 2021 at 6:17 p.m. EST

Republican lawyer Cleta Mitchell, who advised President Trump during his Saturday phone call with Georgia’s secretary of state in an effort to overturn the election, resigned on Tuesday as a partner in the Washington office of the law firm Foley & Lardner.

Mitchell’s resignation came after the law firm on Monday issued a statement saying it was “concerned by” her role in the call. The firm noted that as a matter of policy, its attorneys do not represent “any parties seeking to contest the results of the election.”

The Washington Post on Sunday published audio and a transcript of the hour-long call in which Trump pressured Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger to overturn the election results. During the call, Mitchell complained that she had not been given access to certain information from Raffensperger’s office, and Trump relied on her to an extraordinary degree during the call.

The Post on Monday published a story https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html detailing Mitchell’s transition from being a liberal Democrat to a conservative Republican, culminating in her role advising Trump during the call.

In its statement on Tuesday, the law firm said: “Cleta Mitchell has informed firm management of her decision to resign from Foley & Lardner effective immediately. Ms. Mitchell concluded that her departure was in the firm’s best interests, as well as in her own personal best interests. We thank her for her contributions to the firm and wish her well.”

Mitchell declined to comment. In a letter obtained by The Post that she sent Tuesday to friends and clients, she did not make any reference to whether her actions violated the law firm’s policies, or whether the firm was right to say that it was concerned about her actions.

Instead, she blamed what she called “a massive pressure campaign in the last several days mounted by leftist groups . . . because of my personal involvement with President Trump” and the Georgia election.

She wrote that she resigned because she did not want to be a distraction for the firm, but she vowed to continue her practice related to election law.

“Those who deny the existence of voter and election fraud are not in touch with facts and reality,” she wrote.


Mitchell, 70, is a onetime Democratic member of the Oklahoma legislature who became a Republican and has made a Washington career representing GOP candidates, committees and causes, culminating with her work after the election advising Trump.

In the Saturday call, Trump told Raffensperger that he risked facing criminal consequences if he didn’t “find” enough votes to declare that the president had won the state. Raffensperger responded that “the challenge that you have is the data you have is wrong.”

Trump then asked Mitchell, “Well, Cleta, how do you respond to that? Maybe you tell me?”

Mitchell complained to Raffensperger that “we have asked from your office for records that only you have” but that they had not received them.

Mitchell raised her claim that around 4,500 people voted after having moved out of Georgia. Trump interjected that the number was “in the 20s,” apparently meaning in the 20,000s, but Raffensperger’s general counsel, Ryan Germany, said those numbers were not accurate: “Every one we’ve been through are people that lived in Georgia, moved to a different state, but then moved back to Georgia legitimately.”

Mitchell concluded her contribution by saying that she hadn’t even addressed the claim that voting machines were rigged, which Georgia officials denied. Trump interjected that “we don’t need” to prove that machines were rigged.

Trump said, “All we have to do, Cleta, is find 11,000-plus votes.”

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I guess she and Lin Wood, who thinks he's the Christ incarnate in an imperfect human being and create their own law firm? I'm not clever enough to think of a name for it.
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Uh Lin Wood may be in a bit of trouble...

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NEW: The city of Detroit has just asked a federal judge to refer Sidney Powell, Lin Wood and the rest of Team Kraken for disbarment proceedings.

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Powell & her colleagues filed 4 Kraken suits alleging a baseless conspiracy about foreign powers & Dominion voting machines. Judge Linda Parker in Detroit swatted it down.
Detroit's lawyers note that decision & say now it's time for the lawyers "to answer for that misconduct."

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The filing notes the by-now repeated sins of Powell's filings: fake numbers, unverified claims, experts w/no expertise.
It also notes that Trump has continued to use the Kraken suits in his "desperate campaign to thwart the will of the voters" even up to his call w/GA's SOS.

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