ATP M1000 WTA 1000 BNP Paribas Open 3/8 - 3/19 2023

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Re: ATP M1000 WTA 1000 BNP Paribas Open 3/8 - 3/19 2023

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I didn't see the match but I hear Sabalenka's serving yips returned...in windy conditions it is always difficult anyway...
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Re: ATP M1000 WTA 1000 BNP Paribas Open 3/8 - 3/19 2023

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ashkor87 wrote: Mon Mar 20, 2023 12:22 pm I didn't see the match but I hear Sabalenka's serving yips returned...in windy conditions it is always difficult anyway...
Yes, there were a large number of double faults, particularly in the first set.
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At crucial times?! Then the problem would be mental...
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Re: ATP M1000 WTA 1000 BNP Paribas Open 3/8 - 3/19 2023

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mmmm8 wrote: Mon Mar 20, 2023 1:31 am
ti-amie wrote: Sun Mar 19, 2023 10:00 pm They've shown TD Tommy Haas a lot during the tournament. I don't think they show any other TD half as much.
They do when it's Feli Lopez in Madrid... must be for their tennis accolades
yeah, the audience recognizes them and has an interest. James Blake and Amelie Mauresmo, too. Other TDs might not even want to be on camera, so I imagine Tennis Channel and ESPN leave them alone.
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Re: ATP M1000 WTA 1000 Indian Wells 3/8 - 3/19 2023

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ashkor87 wrote: Mon Mar 20, 2023 3:57 am
ashkor87 wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2023 9:12 am if only to test the theory that the court surface/speed matters:
I would expect the following (let us see how it works out)
since IW and Miami are typically much slower than any other hard court on the planet,
1. Swiatek will dominate again
2. Sabalenka, Rybakina and Anisimova will do well - so will Badosa (though not as well)
3. Raducanu, Leylah, Garcia, Gauff and Pegula will not - the court wlll be too slow for them.
4. I would venture to guess that even Krejcikova will find conditions too slow.
I never know with Bencic - she really should not do well here but she will somehow find a way!

On the men's side, it is harder to say because of the uncertainty around Djokovic..
1. Fritz, Berretini, Alcaraz will do well
2. Medvedev, FAA and Sinner will not

any thoughts?
Well, Miami is still to happen but at the halfway point, doesn't look very wrong. Medvedev and Sinner did much better than I expected but Alcaraz did turn out to be the best..
Swiatek did dominate until the semis and Rybakina and Sabalenka lived up to my expectations. Anisimova did not...
I will only add this to your "court speed" theory.
It seems to me that your hypothesis is that, if the court is slow, that affects the power hitters. They can't win easily because the court slows down their shots. But, it still works the same for the non-power hitters, because they have no power to begin with, and then the court is too slow for their shots to make a difference.
On the women's side, look at who wins RG. It was not Hingis, Radwanska or a Kasatkina. Sure, ASV did win it solely on defense, but more often that not, it was Seles, Graf, Serena, Sharapova. Players that can hit through the slow court.
A slow court is even worse for players with no power; sure, they can get to the ball and maneuver it, but they are the ones that can't finish the points. When you have a Sabalenka with good mobility, a Rybakina with decent footwork, they are the ones that can actually finish a point on a slow court.

About your picks. Picking Iga is currently a given. So are Sabalenka and Rybakina. Anisimova is not doing well, regardless of where she plays or what she plays on. You are around the .500 mark, and that is fine.
Let's wait and see how MIA goes.
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ashkor87 wrote: Mon Mar 20, 2023 2:51 pm At crucial times?! Then the problem would be mental...
Yes, she double-faulted set point up at least twice during the tie-breaker.
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Re: ATP M1000 WTA 1000 Indian Wells 3/8 - 3/19 2023

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ponchi101 wrote: Mon Mar 20, 2023 3:55 pm
ashkor87 wrote: Mon Mar 20, 2023 3:57 am
ashkor87 wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2023 9:12 am if only to test the theory that the court surface/speed matters:
I would expect the following (let us see how it works out)
since IW and Miami are typically much slower than any other hard court on the planet,
1. Swiatek will dominate again
2. Sabalenka, Rybakina and Anisimova will do well - so will Badosa (though not as well)
3. Raducanu, Leylah, Garcia, Gauff and Pegula will not - the court wlll be too slow for them.
4. I would venture to guess that even Krejcikova will find conditions too slow.
I never know with Bencic - she really should not do well here but she will somehow find a way!

On the men's side, it is harder to say because of the uncertainty around Djokovic..
1. Fritz, Berretini, Alcaraz will do well
2. Medvedev, FAA and Sinner will not

any thoughts?
Well, Miami is still to happen but at the halfway point, doesn't look very wrong. Medvedev and Sinner did much better than I expected but Alcaraz did turn out to be the best..
Swiatek did dominate until the semis and Rybakina and Sabalenka lived up to my expectations. Anisimova did not...
I will only add this to your "court speed" theory.
It seems to me that your hypothesis is that, if the court is slow, that affects the power hitters. They can't win easily because the court slows down their shots. But, it still works the same for the non-power hitters, because they have no power to begin with, and then the court is too slow for their shots to make a difference.
On the women's side, look at who wins RG. It was not Hingis, Radwanska or a Kasatkina. Sure, ASV did win it solely on defense, but more often that not, it was Seles, Graf, Serena, Sharapova. Players that can hit through the slow court.
A slow court is even worse for players with no power; sure, they can get to the ball and maneuver it, but they are the ones that can't finish the points. When you have a Sabalenka with good mobility, a Rybakina with decent footwork, they are the ones that can actually finish a point on a slow court.

About your picks. Picking Iga is currently a given. So are Sabalenka and Rybakina. Anisimova is not doing well, regardless of where she plays or what she plays on. You are around the .500 mark, and that is fine.
Let's wait and see how MIA goes.
no, no, you have it exactly backwards

on a slow court, you need a way to finish the points.. hence power is required, or the ability to come to the net and volley.
on a fast court, defense is more important.. the ability to change direction etc like Bencic
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Re: ATP M1000 WTA 1000 BNP Paribas Open 3/8 - 3/19 2023

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Re: ATP M1000 WTA 1000 Indian Wells 3/8 - 3/19 2023

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ashkor87 wrote: Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:54 pm ...
no, no, you have it exactly backwards

on a slow court, you need a way to finish the points.. hence power is required, or the ability to come to the net and volley.
on a fast court, defense is more important.. the ability to change direction etc like Bencic
Ok.
Then we agree on that. Slow courts favor the power players.
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Re: ATP M1000 WTA 1000 BNP Paribas Open 3/8 - 3/19 2023

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They are showing the replay of the women's final.
Rybakina is going crosscourt on 90% of her FH's. For somebody that hits flat, a high percentage play. But she did it also to Iga, and she is basically daring the other player (Iga and Aryna, no less) to get into FH crosscourt rallies.
I wonder if her level of confidence is that high, that she feels she can out punch all other players with her FH.
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