Talk About Tennis 2.0

New #1s in both singles and doubles in the WTA, the first time in more than 20 years that has happened simultaneously

The last spot in the race to the WTF seems to be between Rune and Fritz...Rune says he is back..after injury.

I give Fritz the advantage. Something about more guts (I know, the bar is low).

I would have agreed with you until I saw the wrist commentary today

Iga winning Beijing has prevented Sabalenka from formally securing year end #1. She's still a strong favorite, though.

He'll get the WC's. And he is talented enough that some training can get him far into a smaller tournament.
But, is that a career wasted, or what?

ponchi101 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 19, 2023 11:15 pm He'll get the WC's. And he is talented enough that some training can get him far into a smaller tournament.
But, is that a career wasted, or what?

It is. Monfils was the wasted talent of his generation and now we have Kyrgios. Should Tomic be included in the wasted talent category as well?

No. Tomic had several technical issues that really did not make him a true contender. That FH was a shaky shot, for that level.
He was a lot of hype, with no real results. Nick beat RRN the first time he played each one of them. That was legit.

ponchi101 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 20, 2023 12:37 pm No. Tomic had several technical issues that really did not make him a true contender. That FH was a shaky shot, for that level.
He was a lot of hype, with no real results. Nick beat RRN the first time he played each one of them. That was legit.

And an arrogance that could never be backed up.

ponchi101 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 19, 2023 11:15 pm He'll get the WC's. And he is talented enough that some training can get him far into a smaller tournament.
But, is that a career wasted, or what?

Nick has no interest in smaller tournaments, or early rounds of big tournaments. He just wants to play Slam finals against Novak, Alcaraz or Medvedev.

Yes, talent wasted. It's a shame, but he is who he is. He seems to not be over the bullying from his childhood. It appears that he still doesn't accept responsibility for himself.

I still think there's a tiny chance that he pulls an Agassi and comes back from the dead for a couple years. Heck, maybe Agassi is the perfect coach for him.

I've always felt that in his head Kyrgios still sees himself as the chubby kid who was bullied.

#8 beat #7 in the finals of the Elite trophy. ..#1 and 2 failed to get past the group stage ..rankings mean a lot, don't they?!

ashkor87 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 3:08 am #8 beat #7 in the finals of the Elite trophy. ..#1 and 2 failed to get past the group stage ..rankings mean a lot, don't they?!

Rankings are about previous results, but they don't necessarily provide a predictive value, particularly when we're talking about players generally ranked between 10 & 20.

skatingfan wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 6:14 pm

ashkor87 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 3:08 am #8 beat #7 in the finals of the Elite trophy. ..#1 and 2 failed to get past the group stage ..rankings mean a lot, don't they?!

Rankings are about previous results, but they don't necessarily provide a predictive value, particularly when we're talking about players generally ranked between 10 & 20.

Either that- or, almost all of the top 10-20 players suck.