Turin. World Tour Finals (ATP)

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Wednesday, November 16, 2022 Day 4

Centre Court Starts At 11:30 Am

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(1) Wesley Koolhof/Neal Skupski VS (4) Nikola Mektic/Mate Pavic
Not Before 2:00 Pm
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(6) Andrey Rublev VS (7) Novak Djokovic
Not Before 6:30 Pm
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(5) Ivan Dodig/Austin Krajicek VS (8) Thanasi Kokkinakis/Nick Kyrgios
Not Before 9:00 Pm
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(2) Stefanos Tsitsipas VS (4) Daniil Medvedev

[ponchi101]

Routine work-out for Novak. He is qualified for sure (will need only one set), which makes for a potentially dreadful match on Friday (there is no way he will exert himself to the limit if that match gets stretched).

[ptmcmahon]

Qualified for sure ... but needs one set and may not exert himself? Contradiction there.

[ponchi101]

IF the match gets stretched.
He did that when he won first Masters. He won the first set (against Tsonga), lost the second but, having qualified due to the first set won, blatantly tanked the third.

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[skatingfan]

Rublev was in that match for the first 9 games, and then he had one poor service game, and let the match get away very quickly. Djokovic was solid, and just let Rublev implode.

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Thursday, November 17, 2022 Day 5

Centre Court Starts At 11:30 Am

RR
(6) Lloyd Glasspool/Harri Heliovaara VS (7) Marcel Granollers/Horacio Zeballos
Not Before 2:00 Pm
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(1) Rafael Nadal VS (3) Casper Ruud
Not Before 6:30 Pm
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(2) Rajeev Ram/Joe Salisbury VS (3) Marcelo Arevalo/Jean-Julien Rojer
Not Before 9:00 Pm
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(5) Felix Auger-Aliassime VS (8) Taylor Fritz

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Hakaishin @RhuladSengar
Replying to @AnnaK_4ever
Well, there was no other clear favorite besides Djokovic and Meddy did have that good match against Djokovic and won a tournament before the bad performance in Paris. It's reasonable

[Deuce]

Tsitsipas - Medvedev was entertaining. Some high quality stuff, but also some bad errors on both sides. It was intriguing, though - until Medvedev disappeared in the 3rd set tiebreak.

I find it absolutely ridiculous how dependent today's players are on their 'team'. For a sport that is supposed to be one-on-one, it's disgusting, really...
Medvedev was actually blaming his team for the errors he was making. It was like they had a remote control, and were controlling his every action, and when shots were missed, Medvedev turned to them, saying "Why did you make me try that shot, you idiots?!"

And Medvedev is far from the only player who does this.
Tsitsipas's dependence on his 'team' during matches is well known.
This is a disturbing trend that is growing...

I see this kind of thing more and more from players - both the men and the women... their 'team' is far, far too important to them during a match. Ok - if you have a 'team' that helps you with various things outside of the matches, fine. But the pro players today are literally behaving like 10 year old children who look to their parents after every point. It's truly ridiculous now.
They should start thinking of banning teams from watching the match from any location where the player can see them.