Talk About Tennis 2.0

As usual, I’m finding the analysis of Coco’s game pretty out there. IMO, she simply got screwed by a call and unraveled, which is uncharacteristic, but has already happened a couple of times this year.

JTContinental wrote: ↑Wed Jul 31, 2024 4:52 pm As usual, I’m finding the analysis of Coco’s game pretty out there. IMO, she simply got screwed by a call and unraveled, which is uncharacteristic, but has already happened a couple of times this year.

I don't think she actually got screwed on the call, but she was not able to get past it either way. I don't think it helped that she was winning comfortably in the first set, and let it slip away, and then found herself losing the 2nd set.

mick1303 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 31, 2024 12:50 pm

ti-amie wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2024 7:07 pm

What did Zheng do wrong? Puzzling remarks from Navarro...

Agree, and I like Navarro.
But not everybody has to be friends in the locker room, and I have never seen Zheng misbehave on court. So, what was Navarro's point? That Zheng is intense? As long as she is not screaming on your face, no issues there.
And Zheng is not like that.
Still like them both.

ponchi101 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 31, 2024 5:53 pm

mick1303 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 31, 2024 12:50 pm

ti-amie wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2024 7:07 pm

What did Zheng do wrong? Puzzling remarks from Navarro...

Agree, and I like Navarro.
But not everybody has to be friends in the locker room, and I have never seen Zheng misbehave on court. So, what was Navarro's point? That Zheng is intense? As long as she is not screaming on your face, no issues there.
And Zheng is not like that.
Still like them both.

Who cares what is going on in the locker room, unless there is smth illegal (which is not the case here). If Zheng seems distant and unfriendly it could very well be language issue. She may not be comfortable speaking English outside the press-conferences.

I don't buy the narrative that Gauff fell apart after the call. She won the next three points on Vekic's serve. She just got beaten by a player who is playing better than she is right now.

Angelique Kerber has retired again after her loss to Zheng.

ETA: I see this was already posted in another thread

Then this happened





Iga told Polish press:

The US contingent seems a bit touchy during this Olympics.

JTContinental wrote: ↑Wed Jul 31, 2024 8:34 pm The US contingent seems a bit touchy during this Olympics.

Americans are not the most sensitive to cultural differences perhaps. Maybe Collins misinterpreted what Swiatek meant, so also Navarro ..everyone doesn't use words the same way Americans do?

Why this needs to be said, but....let me suggest that it is QUITE time to stop making any sweeping generalizations about any group of people- even with a “perhaps” qualifier. NOT snark meant towards JT- he was just talking about these few current very testy American players. JT was not making commentary about Americans in general.

Wow! qz leading swiatek!!

First defeat for swiatek at RG in 4 years!!!

Swiatek had 36 ufes!

I suppose a pressure of being an overwhelming favorite turned out to be too much.