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Re: WTA YEC Fort Worth 10/31 - 11/7 2022
Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2022 1:50 am
by ptmcmahon
ponchi101 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 11:50 pm
What a mess.
It would be ridiculous, of course, but it is getting to the point in which you almost need "qualies" for the YEC.
(I know, the "qualies" are the whole year, but I hope I made my point).
Meanwhile the stats nerds like us LOVE this. This is personally maybe THE most exciting time of the season for me.
Re: WTA YEC Fort Worth 10/31 - 11/7 2022
Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2022 2:54 am
by ponchi101
Oh, exciting it is. We probably will not know the field for the YEC until the end of Sunday before it starts.
Re: WTA YEC Fort Worth 10/31 - 11/7 2022
Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2022 12:17 pm
by Owendonovan
Let's always remember the way Texas treats any human without a penis or US passport.
Re: WTA YEC Fort Worth 10/31 - 11/7 2022
Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2022 7:40 pm
by ti-amie
Re: WTA YEC Fort Worth 10/31 - 11/7 2022
Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2022 7:43 pm
by ponchi101
Those are some bad breaks for her.
Re: WTA YEC Fort Worth 10/31 - 11/7 2022
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2022 3:15 am
by JazzNU
Re: WTA YEC Fort Worth 10/31 - 11/7 2022
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2022 5:02 am
by ashkor87
Swiatek has achieved such dominance that it is hard to look beyond her now. The only people who can beat her are those who can push her back and take time away from her.. none of them are in the draw here.. so
probabilities: Swiatek 90%.. if something happens to her, Pegula should win... 5%, the field 5%..
Re: WTA YEC Fort Worth 10/31 - 11/7 2022
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2022 2:52 pm
by meganfernandez
ashkor87 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 5:02 am
Swiatek has achieved such dominance that it is hard to look beyond her now. The only people who can beat her are those who can push her back and take time away from her.. none of them are in the draw here.. so
probabilities: Swiatek 90%.. if something happens to her, Pegula should win... 5%, the field 5%..
Pegula took a set off her in San Diego. The problem is the third set - Swiatek seizes control in those situations so well. Someone has to be ready to play just as fearlessly and urgently before Iga runs away with it. I think Pegula has the maturity to do it.
Re: WTA YEC Fort Worth 10/31 - 11/7 2022
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2022 3:02 pm
by ponchi101
Uhm... these are the best 8 players in the world. I just can't give anybody 90% chance of winning. Not nowadays. As good as Iga is, she is no Serena or Steffi or Martina.
60% chance of winning. The rest of the field splits the rest, and not evenly.
Re: WTA YEC Fort Worth 10/31 - 11/7 2022
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2022 3:58 pm
by meganfernandez
ponchi101 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 3:02 pm
Uhm... these are the best 8 players in the world. I just can't give anybody 90% chance of winning. Not nowadays. As good as Iga is, she is no Serena or Steffi or Martina.
60% chance of winning. The rest of the field splits the rest, and not evenly.
I think Iga is close to unstoppable. She is 17-1 against the Fort Worth field in 2022! The only one who has beaten her is Garcia. Sakkari hasn't played her. It's indoors. Good for Iga?
Iga might be a Serena, Steffi, Martina, but she hasn't had time to prove it yet at 21. Serena had two Slams by 21 and Martina won her first at 21. But Steffi had 9, including the Grand Slam!
Re: WTA YEC Fort Worth 10/31 - 11/7 2022
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2022 7:33 pm
by Suliso
Iga a strong favorite, but surely not 90%. Maybe if it was on clay.
Re: WTA YEC Fort Worth 10/31 - 11/7 2022
Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2022 1:06 am
by ponchi101
meganfernandez wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 3:58 pm
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I think Iga is close to unstoppable. She is 17-1 against the Fort Worth field in 2022! The only one who has beaten her is Garcia. Sakkari hasn't played her. It's indoors. Good for Iga?
Iga might be a Serena, Steffi, Martina, but she hasn't had time to prove it yet at 21. Serena had two Slams by 21 and Martina won her first at 21. But Steffi had 9, including the Grand Slam!
Martina was famously out of shape early in her career. I know Iga is right now the cream of the current group, but... not ready to include her in that group of great ones.
Re: WTA YEC Fort Worth 10/31 - 11/7 2022
Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2022 3:11 am
by ashkor87
When Swiatek comes forward for the kill...her body weight into the shot, she is awesome..to beat her, you have to push her back..not easy but Krejcikova did it at Ostrava for most of the match...
Re: WTA YEC Fort Worth 10/31 - 11/7 2022
Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2022 5:18 am
by ashkor87
Swiatek can be beaten, but not by those in the draw, unfortunately! Maybe Sabalenka can do it but can she beat everyone else? unlikely..!
Re: WTA YEC Fort Worth 10/31 - 11/7 2022
Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2022 5:44 am
by Deuce
ashkor87 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 5:18 am
Swiatek can be beaten, but not by those in the draw, unfortunately! Maybe Sabalenka can do it but can she beat everyone else? unlikely..!
Well... one player that Sabalenka has a huge winning record against is... herself

. She has beaten herself many, many times - and odds are that she'll do it again in this tournament.
As for Swiatek - I agree with others in that these are the top 8 players in the rankings, and in a one tournament showdown like this, anything can happen.
Would I favour the other 7 players to beat Swiatek in 8 tournaments out of 10? Probably not. But in a one tournament showdown, as I said, anything is possible.