Talk About Tennis 2.0

Finally Petra winning a main draw match. Comeback is progressing )

ashkor87 wrote: ↑Tue May 06, 2025 1:39 am This tournament is also a bit of an oddity but almost opposite to Madrid...Nadal has won it 10 times, Djokovic 6 times, Conchita 4 times, Zverev twice, and is defending champion. Clay court specialists seem to do quite well..but very few Italian champions have gone on to win the French..other than Nadal and Swiatek of course..some French champions have gone on to win the Italian the next year! Very strange.

Let's remember that every ATP stat regarding clay for the last two decades is completely irrelevant because we had that clay monster that simply won it all. And that other monster that won what the first one didn't.

ORDER OF PLAY - WEDNESDAY, 07 MAY 2025

Campo Centrale - start 11:00

WTA - Sara Errani (ITA) vs Naomi Osaka (JPN)

Not Before 13:00
ATP - Tallon Griekspoor (NED) vs Miomir Kecmanovic (SRB)
ATP - Lorenzo Sonego (ITA) vs [Q] Roman Andres Burruchaga (ARG)

Not Before 19:00
WTA - Antonia Ruzic (CRO) vs Tyra Caterina Grant (ITA)

Not Before 20:30
ATP - Yunchaokete Bu (CHN) vs Luciano Darderi (ITA)

Grand Stand Arena - start 11:00

ATP - Jiri Lehecka (CZE) vs Alexandre Muller (FRA)

Not Before 13:00
WTA - Elisabetta Cocciaretto (ITA) vs Elina Avanesyan (ARM)
WTA - Lucrezia Stefanini (ITA) vs Veronika Kudermetova
ATP - [WC] Francesco Passaro (ITA) vs [Q] Chun-Hsin Tseng (TPE)
WTA - Alexandra Eala (PHI) vs Marta Kostyuk (UKR)

SuperTennis Arena - start 11:00

ATP - Jordan Thompson (AUS) vs Giovanni Mpetshi Perricard (FRA)
WTA - Arianna Zucchini (ITA) vs Victoria Mboko (CAN)
WTA - Bianca Andreescu (CAN) vs Federica Urgesi (ITA)
ATP - Christopher O'Connell (AUS) vs [LL] Cameron Norrie (GBR)
WTA - Maya Joint (AUS) vs Emma Raducanu (GBR)

Pietrangeli - start 11:00

WTA - Victoria Azarenka vs Camila Osorio (COL)
ATP - Camilo Ugo Carabelli (ARG) vs [LL] Pablo Carreno Busta (ESP)
ATP - Yoshihito Nishioka (JPN) vs [Q] Dusan Lajovic (SRB)
WTA - Anastasia Pavlyuchenkova vs Katie Boulter (GBR)
ATP - Laslo Djere (SRB) vs Tomas Martin Etcheverry (ARG)

Court 14 - start 11:00
ATP - Daniel Altmaier (GER) vs Francisco Comesana (ARG)
WTA - Varvara Gracheva (FRA) vs Ajla Tomljanovic (AUS)
WTA - Ashlyn Krueger (USA) vs Anna Bondar (HUN)
WTA - Emiliana Arango (COL) vs Viktoriya Tomova (BUL)
ATP - [Q] Vilius Gaubas (LTU) vs Damir Dzumhur (BIH)

Court 1 - start 11:00

ATP - Rinky Hijikata (AUS) vs Corentin Moutet (FRA)
WTA - Elena-Gabriela Ruse (ROU) vs Polina Kudermetova
WTA - Maria Sakkari (GRE) vs Belinda Bencic (SUI)
ATP - Hamad Medjedovic (SRB) vs [Q] Otto Virtanen (FIN)
WTA - Dayana Yastremska (UKR) vs Anastasia Potapova

Court 2 - start 11:00

WTA - Marketa Vondrousova (CZE) vs Xinyu Wang (CHN)
ATP - [Q] Carlos Taberner (ESP) vs Aleksandar Kovacevic (USA)
WTA - Hailey Baptiste (USA) vs Anna Blinkova
WTA - Katerina Siniakova (CZE) vs Olga Danilovic (SRB)
WTA - Katie Volynets (USA) vs Arantxa Rus (NED)

Court 15 - start 11:00

WTA - Caroline Dolehide (USA) vs Sorana Cirstea (ROU)
ATP - [Q] Vit Kopriva (CZE) vs Quentin Halys (FRA)
WTA - Moyuka Uchijima (JPN) vs Eva Lys (GER)

ti-amie wrote: ↑Tue May 06, 2025 11:13 pm

I wonder what a non tennis fan thinks of the first time they see this

ptmcmahon wrote: ↑Wed May 07, 2025 12:15 am

ti-amie wrote: ↑Tue May 06, 2025 11:13 pm

I wonder what a non tennis fan thinks of the first time they see this

Probabilities

Men- Alcaraz 40%, Sinner 20, Musetti 10, Ruud 10, Zverev 5, field 15
Women- Swiatek 40%, Sabalenka 35, Andreeva 10, svitolina 10, field 5
What do you think?!

No roofs for the tournament with such high net worth is an embarrassment.

ashkor87 wrote: ↑Wed May 07, 2025 2:47 am Probabilities

Men- Alcaraz 40%, Sinner 20, Musetti 10, Ruud 10, Zverev 5, field 15
Women- Swiatek 40%, Sabalenka 35, Andreeva 10, svitolina 10, field 5
What do you think?!

Alcaraz 30, Sinner 30, Zverev 10, Ruud 5, Tsitsipas 5, field 20
Swiatek 30, Sabalenka 30, Mirra 15, Svitolina 10, field 15

But it is just our ongoing disagreement about the power of the field.

ponchi101 wrote: ↑Wed May 07, 2025 3:08 pm

ashkor87 wrote: ↑Wed May 07, 2025 2:47 am Probabilities

Men- Alcaraz 40%, Sinner 20, Musetti 10, Ruud 10, Zverev 5, field 15
Women- Swiatek 40%, Sabalenka 35, Andreeva 10, svitolina 10, field 5
What do you think?!

Alcaraz 30, Sinner 30, Zverev 10, Ruud 5, Tsitsipas 5, field 20
Swiatek 30, Sabalenka 30, Mirra 15, Svitolina 10, field 15

But it is just our ongoing disagreement about the power of the field.

but actually no real disagreement! all the same players, just slightly different probabilities. we are in danger of agreeing on something!

We may be overlooking Coco. She is an RG finalist, and here she won't have to deal with low bounces.

Bah, when was the last time she won anything on clay?

/s

She only has 2 losses in 11 finals, and both the losses were on clay. She made the semis last year, so I think she'll be a factor, but not a winner.

I got to see most of Tyra Caterina Grant's match vs Antonia Ruzic. She's the 17 year old American who will play for her mother's country Italy.

I saw decent footwork and court sense, good shot making and heart. After taking the first set 6-3 and having squandered two match points she lost the next two sets 3-6 and 5-7.

If given time to develop mentally and physically - she was visibly tired in the third set of a match that ran about 2.5 hours - she could become a fixture in the top 20 - 30. She's just too young to make a valid estimate of what she could be. Good coaching and physical training will help her.