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Re: TENNIS PLAYERS (Off-Court Shenanigans)
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2023 4:31 pm
by ashkor87
Edberg was said to be the most boring person ever...
Re: TENNIS PLAYERS (Off-Court Shenanigans)
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2023 5:29 pm
by ponchi101
I do not mind boring person. I loved the spectacular player, the guy that could hit a volley winner from a ball that was at his shoelaces.
But sure, reading a bio on Edberg might be like reading a recipe for Swedish meatballs. Not going to make me salivate.
Re: TENNIS PLAYERS (Off-Court Shenanigans)
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2023 5:58 pm
by mmmm8
So far, in addition to this, I've read Agassi's, Blake's, Murray's and Sharapova's. Agassi is the best by far (co-written with J.R Moehringer). Blake's was very good as well (co-written with Andrew Friedman. Andrew's ghostwritten a lot of chef autobiographies). All were very readable (Sharapova's was co-written with Rich Cohen), although Murray's was pre-mature and badly edited - sounded like an idea from Judy or his agents early in his career. Someone had asked me to buy it for them and I ended up reading it on a plane before handing it over, so it was engaging at least.. Murray didn't list a co-writer, but if I had to guess, it'd by Judy
I have Arthur Ashe's book, which I think I picked up for a couple dollars at a used book store, on my to-be-read shelves. But it's not his memoir (Days of Grace) but his book on tennis strategy, On Tennis.
Re: TENNIS PLAYERS (Off-Court Shenanigans)
Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2023 12:47 pm
by Owendonovan
There's, "Martina and Chrissy, the great rivalry in sports", which wasn't bad, had some insights. Monica put a book out as well that wasn't awful. Sampras did little in his book that wasn't touched by the privilege of money and resources.
Re: TENNIS PLAYERS (Off-Court Shenanigans)
Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2023 12:52 pm
by meganfernandez
I have Ashe's biography but haven't made it very far, mostly because it's just so darn heavy. I met the author at the US Open in media seats the year it came out. He introduced himself as a writer of "definitive biographies." Said he spent 9 years on Ashe.
Re: TENNIS PLAYERS (Off-Court Shenanigans)
Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2023 12:54 pm
by Owendonovan
"Definitive" huh, I'd have been embarrassed for him for defining his writing that way.
Re: TENNIS PLAYERS (Off-Court Shenanigans)
Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2023 1:04 pm
by meganfernandez
Owendonovan wrote: ↑Sat Jul 01, 2023 12:54 pm
"Definitive" huh, I'd have been embarrassed for him for defining his writing that way.
He was pretty definitive about it.

Doesn't lack confidence. I'm surprised he hasn't added it to his Wikipedia page. He's a professor and historian with a concentration in the civil rights era.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_Arsenault
He was a blast to talk to during a match. He made Ashe sound like a sex machine, though, telling stories about him and Beverly Johnson. Maybe he was. I just remember thinking it was an odd thing to bring up.
Re: TENNIS PLAYERS (Off-Court Shenanigans)
Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2023 1:13 pm
by Owendonovan
meganfernandez wrote: ↑Sat Jul 01, 2023 1:04 pm
Owendonovan wrote: ↑Sat Jul 01, 2023 12:54 pm
"Definitive" huh, I'd have been embarrassed for him for defining his writing that way.
He was pretty definitive about it.

Doesn't lack confidence. I'm surprised he hasn't added it to his Wikipedia page. He's a professor and historian with a concentration in the civil rights era.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_Arsenault
He was a blast to talk to during a match. He made Ashe sound like a sex machine, though, telling stories about him and Beverly Johnson. Maybe he was. I just remember thinking it was an odd thing to bring up.
He was hitting on you........
Re: TENNIS PLAYERS (Off-Court Shenanigans)
Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2023 1:44 pm
by meganfernandez
Owendonovan wrote: ↑Sat Jul 01, 2023 1:13 pm
meganfernandez wrote: ↑Sat Jul 01, 2023 1:04 pm
Owendonovan wrote: ↑Sat Jul 01, 2023 12:54 pm
"Definitive" huh, I'd have been embarrassed for him for defining his writing that way.
He was pretty definitive about it.

Doesn't lack confidence. I'm surprised he hasn't added it to his Wikipedia page. He's a professor and historian with a concentration in the civil rights era.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_Arsenault
He was a blast to talk to during a match. He made Ashe sound like a sex machine, though, telling stories about him and Beverly Johnson. Maybe he was. I just remember thinking it was an odd thing to bring up.
He was hitting on you........
It didn't seem like it, but in retrospect, it was maybe a bit lacivious, given our ages.
Re: TENNIS PLAYERS (Off-Court Shenanigans)
Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2023 5:41 pm
by ti-amie
Re: TENNIS PLAYERS (Off-Court Shenanigans)
Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2023 7:01 pm
by ti-amie
Re: TENNIS PLAYERS (Off-Court Shenanigans)
Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2023 7:14 pm
by ponchi101
ti-amie wrote: ↑Sun Jul 02, 2023 5:41 pm
Can't open for me.
TWT remains a mystery.
Re: TENNIS PLAYERS (Off-Court Shenanigans)
Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2023 7:15 pm
by ti-amie
Re: TENNIS PLAYERS (Off-Court Shenanigans)
Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2023 10:03 pm
by ti-amie
Re: TENNIS PLAYERS (Off-Court Shenanigans)
Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2023 10:27 pm
by ponchi101