by ti-amie DAY 10: WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 4
ARTHUR ASHE STADIUM
12:00 PM
WOMEN'S SINGLES QF
BRA B. Haddad Maia [22] vs CZE K. Muchova
MEN'S SINGLES QF
Upcoming
GBR J. Draper [25] vs AUS A. de Minaur [10]
7:00 PM
WOMEN'S SINGLES QF
Upcoming
POL I. Swiatek [1] vs USA J. Pegula [6]
MEN'S SINGLES QF
Upcoming
ITA J. Sinner [1] vs D. Medvedev [5]
LOUIS ARMSTRONG STADIUM
11:00 AM
JUNIOR MATCH
TBD vs TBD
JUNIOR MATCH
TBD vs TBD
WOMEN'S DOUBLES SF
Not before 3:00 PM
TBD vs UKR L. Kichenok [7]/LAT J. Ostapenko [7]
WOMEN'S DOUBLES SF
Not before 4:30 PM
CZE K. Siniakova [3]/USA T. Townsend [3] vs FRA K. Mladenovic/CHN S. Zhang
by ponchi101 Stat from ESPN.
Muchova has served and volleyed 29 times before the start of today's match. No other WTA player has done so more than 5 times.
Please, win this thing.
by ponchi101 It wasn't as dominant as the score says, because there were some games that went to deuce.
But Karo is looking very solid.
Keeping the distances, she is doing a relatively good impression of Martina. The charging the net is refreshing.
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mick1303 ponchi101 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 04, 2024 4:34 pm
Stat from ESPN.
Muchova has served and volleyed 29 times before the start of today's match. No other WTA player has done so more than 5 times.
Please, win this thing.
It would be a beautiful story. But also a tall order, given the remaining opponents: likely Swiatek and Saba.
by ponchi101 Is it that tall an order? She has been to a slam finals before, pushing the current best clay court player to three sets. She has all the tools.
And she is not seeded or anything like that because of the injuries. It is not as if she went away for no reason.
I know, I agree. I still say Aryna is the current best bet. But Muchova has the shots.
by ponchi101 That was a lovely display of attacking tennis. It can be done.
by jazzyg Most definitely it can be done.
I would make her a solid favorite over Swiatek if they play and an underdog with a shot against Sabalenka.
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mick1303 jazzyg wrote: ↑Wed Sep 04, 2024 5:54 pm
Most definitely it can be done.
I would make her a solid favorite over Swiatek if they play and an underdog with a shot against Sabalenka.
Swiatek gets on a roll closer to the final weekend in slams though. 6-2 in quarters and 5-1 in semis. A bit more vulnerable earlier.
by mick1303 Also never beaten in slam final. But that's a concern for Sabalenka, not Muchova )
by jazzyg She's only played one slam final and two slam semifinals outside of Roland Garros. She lost to Collins in Aussie semis two years ago. Beat Sabalenka and Jabeur at U.S. Open later that year.
That's not nearly enough data points to draw a conclusion. I'm locked out of watching the U.S. Open this week and have not seen any of Swiatek's matches to this point. Maybe she has reached terrific form, but what I've seen from her for much of this year is far from that.
by ponchi101 She is in terrific form. I have watched two of her matches and the FH down the line is simply impossible to reach.
About the men:
I am going to get really cocky this time. SF'ist at the USO: Tiafoe, Fritz and Draper. As I said a while back. As soon as the big three would go away, the ATP would be as open as the WTA. This line up points that way.
by ashkor87 Pegula is doing the right thing on a fast court, pushing Iga back, taking time away from her..Swiatek is beatable on a fast hard court, as we saw at the AO, and Pegula has the right strategy. Of course, too many ufes from Swiatek but they are being caused by Pegula's play.
by ti-amie Swiatek continues to be frozen in place by Pegula down the line shots. Robson says that she's always looking for a forehand and is staying in place a fraction of a second too long.
Pegula just broke for 4-3 after winning the first set 6-2.
by ti-amie Jessica Pegula in straight sets 6-2, 6-4 over Iga Swiatek.
by ponchi101 Thank you, Jessie!!!
Iga is a great front runner. But if the other player puts pressure on her, it is different.
Horrible UE count, though.
by jazzyg I was never really worried about Swiatek beating Pegula. Don't understand the love for her off of clay now that her dominant run of two years ago is long gone. As I've posted before, she's a bully on court. Whenever anyone stands up to her game and pushes her back, she collapses like a house of cards. This has happened multiple times, is utterly predictable and somehow goes unnoticed by most.
I am very worried, though, about Muchova beating Pegula. I love Muchova's game, but i need Pegula to win that match to have a chance of beating the draw in the Survivor pool. I know she beat Muchova in Cincy, but this is a different Muchova. Should be a heck of a match between two players at their peak. Wish I could see it.
by Owendonovan JMac just made a comment about Iga not playing defense on hard courts. I agree.
by JTContinental Muchova is nursing a hip injury but hopefully nothing serious
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ponchi101 Owendonovan wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2024 1:23 am
JMac just made a comment about Iga not playing defense on hard courts. I agree.
I saw the opposite. I felt that Iga was playing defense a lot and when she tried to turn it around, she did not know how.
But I guess Jmac knows a bit more than I do.
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Owendonovan ponchi101 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2024 2:01 am
Owendonovan wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2024 1:23 am
JMac just made a comment about Iga not playing defense on hard courts. I agree.
I saw the opposite. I felt that Iga was playing defense a lot and when she tried to turn it around, she did not know how.
But I guess Jmac knows a bit more than I do.
I think on some level he was including that, saying it seems like she thinks she doesn't know how to play defense.
by ti-amie Medvedev has won 100% of his shots made at the net. He's now up 5-0 first set.
It's been a long time since I've watched either man play. Medvedev is a very smart player.
by ti-amie Medvedev takes the second set 6-2. I can't stay up for the entire match but Medvedev won that set.
by ashkor87 Wild swings in this Sinner- Med match! Very unusual. Wonder why?!
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ashkor87 ponchi101 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2024 12:49 am
Thank you, Jessie!!!
Iga is a great front runner. But if the other player puts pressure on her, it is different.
Horrible UE count, though.
Yes, she is a bit of a bully, isn't she!
by ponchi101 There is something wrong with Medevev. His first serve usually clocks around the 130's. Tonight, he is only reaching 120's.
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ponchi101 ashkor87 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2024 2:59 am
ponchi101 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2024 12:49 am
Thank you, Jessie!!!
Iga is a great front runner. But if the other player puts pressure on her, it is different.
Horrible UE count, though.
Yes, she is a bit of a bully, isn't she!
I don't know. Maybe she just doesn't adjust. I don't like her, but "bully" may be a bit too harsh.
(But, by definition, she is).
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ashkor87 jazzyg wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2024 12:53 am
I was never really worried about Swiatek beating Pegula. Don't understand the love for her off of clay now that her dominant run of two years ago is long gone. As I've posted before, she's a bully on court. Whenever anyone stands up to her game and pushes her back, she collapses like a house of cards. This has happened multiple times, is utterly predictable and somehow goes unnoticed by most.
I am very worried, though, about Muchova beating Pegula. I love Muchova's game, but i need Pegula to win that match to have a chance of beating the draw in the Survivor pool. I know she beat Muchova in Cincy, but this is a different Muchova. Should be a heck of a match between two players at their peak. Wish I could see it.
swiatek did win Qatar and Indian Wells, two of the biggest hard court tournaments of the year .
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nelslus Taylor lost in the doubles SF, and I was there for the whole match. LOL, I am WAY too tired to type anything else.
by jazzyg Indian Wells is an incredibly slow hard court. I'll give you Qatar.
Her form has regressed as the year went along, as indicated by her Olympics loss on her favorite court. Pair that with her tepid loss last year here to nemesis Ostapenko, who then barely won games against Gauff in her next match, and her disappointing loss to Noskova in Melbourne, and you could see this coming.
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ashkor87 ponchi101 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 04, 2024 8:33 pm
She is in terrific form. I have watched two of her matches and the FH down the line is simply impossible to reach.
About the men:
I am going to get really cocky this time. SF'ist at the USO: Tiafoe, Fritz and Draper. As I said a while back. As soon as the big three would go away, the ATP would be as open as the WTA. This line up points that way.
Cannot disagree more.. Sinner will dominate on fast courts, Alcaraz on slow.. maybe there is not a third but these two will win 70% of the big titles.
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ashkor87 jazzyg wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2024 4:46 am
Indian Wells is an incredibly slow hard court. I'll give you Qatar.
Her form has regressed as the year went along, as indicated by her Olympics loss on her favorite court. Pair that with her tepid loss last year here to nemesis Ostapenko, who then barely won games against Gauff in her next match, and her disappointing loss to Noskova in Melbourne, and you could see this coming.
Yes, she is clearly beatable on hard courts, especially fast ones but still, she did win two 1000 level titles, only Sabalenka has done better. Whom are you comparing her with? If herself, yes, you have a point.
by jazzyg I am comparing her with Pegula first since that is who beat her comfortably.
Pegula's 9-1 record in the lead-up events put her in much better form than Swiatek. Any of the semifinalists would beat Swiatek in my opinion, and I expressed that thought about Muchova before Swiatek's quarterfinal loss.
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ponchi101 ashkor87 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2024 5:37 am
ponchi101 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 04, 2024 8:33 pm
She is in terrific form. I have watched two of her matches and the FH down the line is simply impossible to reach.
About the men:
I am going to get really cocky this time. SF'ist at the USO: Tiafoe, Fritz and Draper. As I said a while back. As soon as the big three would go away, the ATP would be as open as the WTA. This line up points that way.
Cannot disagree more.. Sinner will dominate on fast courts, Alcaraz on slow.. maybe there is not a third but these two will win 70% of the big titles.
Well, you always talk about fast and slow courts because that is your metric. But why would Alcaraz dominate on slow courts? Three of his 4 slam wins are on your fast courts (USO and W), and although he did win RG, his clay court season was not great.
And, by open, I mean that more players will have a chance of doing really well at Slams. Tiafoe said a couple of days ago: when you saw you were scheduled to play Roger in R4, you started making travel plans. That will not happen with Sinner and Alcaraz.
They will be great, indeed. But it will not be the same dominance that R/R/N imposed on the tour.
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ponchi101 ashkor87 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2024 6:04 am
jazzyg wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2024 4:46 am
Indian Wells is an incredibly slow hard court. I'll give you Qatar.
Her form has regressed as the year went along, as indicated by her Olympics loss on her favorite court. Pair that with her tepid loss last year here to nemesis Ostapenko, who then barely won games against Gauff in her next match, and her disappointing loss to Noskova in Melbourne, and you could see this coming.
Yes, she is clearly beatable on hard courts, especially fast ones but still, she did win two 1000 level titles, only Sabalenka has done better. Whom are you comparing her with? If herself, yes, you have a point.
I am going to put you on here
You said that in order for you to be a top player, you have to go through Pegula (or somebody like Pegula). Iga could not, and it wasn't even close.
So, how do you re-evaluate Iga? I will still say she is above everybody on clay (her Olympics was the outlier there). But, once off clay, she is at the same level as a small group: Aryna, Elena (when healthy) and indeed, Pegula. She can be beat by Ostapenko and the likes, and when she enters a non-clay tournament, she is as vulnerable as any.
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ashkor87 ponchi101 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2024 5:17 pm
ashkor87 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2024 6:04 am
jazzyg wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2024 4:46 am
Indian Wells is an incredibly slow hard court. I'll give you Qatar.
Her form has regressed as the year went along, as indicated by her Olympics loss on her favorite court. Pair that with her tepid loss last year here to nemesis Ostapenko, who then barely won games against Gauff in her next match, and her disappointing loss to Noskova in Melbourne, and you could see this coming.
Yes, she is clearly beatable on hard courts, especially fast ones but still, she did win two 1000 level titles, only Sabalenka has done better. Whom are you comparing her with? If herself, yes, you have a point.
I am going to put you on here
You said that in order for you to be a top player, you have to go through Pegula (or somebody like Pegula). Iga could not, and it wasn't even close.
So, how do you re-evaluate Iga? I will still say she is above everybody on clay (her Olympics was the outlier there). But, once off clay, she is at the same level as a small group: Aryna, Elena (when healthy) and indeed, Pegula. She can be beat by Ostapenko and the likes, and when she enters a non-clay tournament, she is as vulnerable as any.
Olympics is the culprit..those who did well there have nothing left at the USO. I would defer judgement
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ashkor87 ponchi101 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2024 5:17 pm
ashkor87 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2024 6:04 am
jazzyg wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2024 4:46 am
Indian Wells is an incredibly slow hard court. I'll give you Qatar.
Her form has regressed as the year went along, as indicated by her Olympics loss on her favorite court. Pair that with her tepid loss last year here to nemesis Ostapenko, who then barely won games against Gauff in her next match, and her disappointing loss to Noskova in Melbourne, and you could see this coming.
Yes, she is clearly beatable on hard courts, especially fast ones but still, she did win two 1000 level titles, only Sabalenka has done better. Whom are you comparing her with? If herself, yes, you have a point.
I am going to put you on here
You said that in order for you to be a top player, you have to go through Pegula (or somebody like Pegula). Iga could not, and it wasn't even close.
So, how do you re-evaluate Iga? I will still say she is above everybody on clay (her Olympics was the outlier there). But, once off clay, she is at the same level as a small group: Aryna, Elena (when healthy) and indeed, Pegula. She can be beat by Ostapenko and the likes, and when she enters a non-clay tournament, she is as vulnerable as any.
Olympics is the culprit..those who did well there have nothing left at the USO. I would defer judgement
by ponchi101 Ok. If you are going to say this loss is to be traced back to a 5 matches she played over 6 weeks ago, I guess we are on different wavelengths.
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skatingfan ponchi101 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2024 11:26 pm
Ok. If you are going to say this loss is to be traced back to a 5 matches she played over 6 weeks ago, I guess we are on different wavelengths.
It also ignores that Swiatek has been playing like this off of clay since last summer.