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As long as he passes his doping tests....

skatingfan wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 12:40 am I saw the think about the drink - seems like much ado about nothing in that trainers mix drinks for players in the stands & hand them over to the ball kids on a regular basis - particularly if the match is extended. As to the secrecy of the drink I wonder if that's just Nole playing with the media - it created a story.

Yeah, the actual mixing of the drink was nothing. Everyone does that. As far as the weird secrecy, Wertheim cited several good reasons they might have wanted to be discreet - like if they weren't using Evian, the water sponsor. Also, the idea that they were doping is silly - right out there in the open!

meganfernandez wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 3:13 am

skatingfan wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 12:40 am I saw the think about the drink - seems like much ado about nothing in that trainers mix drinks for players in the stands & hand them over to the ball kids on a regular basis - particularly if the match is extended. As to the secrecy of the drink I wonder if that's just Nole playing with the media - it created a story.

Yeah, the actual mixing of the drink was nothing. Everyone does that. As far as the weird secrecy, Wertheim cited several good reasons they might have wanted to be discreet - like if they weren't using Evian, the water sponsor. Also, the idea that they were doping is silly - right out there in the open!

^ Yes and yes.
And the 'secrecy' could also be because they don't want other players (or members of their teams) to know what they are mixing in, for fear that some of them may try it, as well. If they feel it gives Novak a certain (legal) advantage, they're obviously not going to be openly sharing it with everyone.

This just smells like the media creating a problem where none exists - as the media tend to do.
As ponchi says, the players undergo drug/doping tests - and as far as we know, Djokovic has never been caught using any illegal substance.
It could be another Lance Armstrong situation, with loads of people covering for him... but, realistically, that's more than highly improbable.

^ ... and people around the world - including in so-called 'advanced' and 'civilized' countries - continue to starve because they have no food, and continue to have no structure to call home.

But, hey - as long as the rich - who, for some reason, are people's heroes - keep getting richer, amassing so much money that they cannot possibly spend it all, everyone can pretend that all is fine, right?


Rather than seeking that the money for the WTA gets increased to the level of the ATP, the better position would be that the ATP decrease the money to the level of the WTA.
Because what all of them - men and women - are paid is obscene, when one considers that there are millions of people starving in the world.

There is more than enough money in the world so that every person can eat and have a home. The problem is certainly not the lack of money. The problem is the extremely selfish way that the money is distributed.

ti-amie wrote: ↑Sat Nov 19, 2022 7:16 pm

When we miss a few shots - especially routine shots -, it often 'snowballs'. Simon touches on the reason in one of the sentences above when he says that when things are going well, we don't even think about hitting the ball.
That's the key - to NOT THINK. To simply go with our natural instincts.
He mentions that people tend to focus on technique when things are going badly. That requires thinking. And that almost always doesn't work - and just ends up making the situation worse (it snowballs).
It's like eating. We enjoy eating and tasting our food the most when we don't think about the eating process. If we start to think about what we're doing technically - the chewing, the swallowing, etc. - it generally ruins the pleasure of eating.

The only people who didn't see that Fritz' argument makes sense are the people who run tennis.



The rest of Rothenberg's tweet thread:

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So many Tennis Channel employees have been roped into doing cringeworthy Draft Kings promo work on air. Many of them also have other roles in the sport. Will they also be accountable for that?

I've seen James Blake in TV commercials for a gambling/betting site that focuses on tennis...
Here in Canada, current and former NHL hockey players do TV commercials for gambling/betting entities.

I said a year or two ago that legalized gambling/betting will ruin pro sports as we know it. I stand by that.
There are FAR, FAR more negative elements to gambling than there are positive elements. And that's not even including that organized crime is often involved.

Blake was mentioned in a reply by a fan. Terrible, terrible optics.

One of the sponsors for the Nadal/Ruud exo is a local online gambling site.
On ESPN, at leas 90% of all commercials are gambling sites. Not unusual to have 5-6 straight commercials that are gambling sites.
Give these poor people a break. You have to launder all that drug money somehow!

More on the Simona Halep doping issue. Translated from Romanian by Google

Turnaround in the doping case in which Simona Halep is accused! The Romanian woman has an explanation for the positive doping test at the US Open: investigative agents and bio-pharmacological experts used the "Nutrition Genome" method! | EXCLUSIVE

Publicat: 03 12. 2022, 14:34
Ilie Pavel

The French agency of toxicology and pharmacology employed by Simona Halep identified the sources of contamination that caused the presence of the drug Roxadustat in the only positive test taken by Simona on August 29 after the match lost in the first round at the US Open.

Produced and packaged in a pharmaceutical factory, in the nutritional supplements used by Simona Halep, accidental sources of compounds were identified that exceed the purity criteria of the substances listed on the labels of the vitamin and mineral products administered by the Romanian athlete.

The composition, manufacturing characteristics, presentation and labeling of the supplements are non-compliant and have essentially altered the products ingested by Halep. Investigative agents and bio-pharmacological experts tested in the specialized centers accredited by the Laboratoire Antidopage Français (LADF) the products used by Halep including through the "Nutrition Genome", a method that reveals the nutrigenomic analysis: the response of Simona's body to nutrients (the relationship between her specific genes and nutrition , own metabolism, living environment and competition as well as individual predispositions).

Reversal of the situation in the doping case in which Simona Halep is accused

Laboratory results reveal minimal presence of Roxadustat as a metabolite or marker source in Halep's urine sample taken at the United States National Tennis Center (USTA) laboratory in Flushing Meadows, New York. Additional investigations are in accordance with the International Standard for Laboratories and the technical documents attest to the presence of Roxadustat as a prohibited substance but which is not specified on the product label or in the information accessible through a reasonable search on the Internet (the online identification engines provided by WADA , "World Anti-Doping Agency" for finding prohibited products possibly existing in nutritional supplements used by athletes).

Laboratory research shows the risks in the production line (preparation, weighing and control-reception) and the contamination of the products ingested by Halep. Risk assessment is, however, Simona's responsibility in the case of non-prescription nutritional supplements.

Based on these documents certified by French molecular toxicologists, Halep asked the "International Tennis Integrity Agency" for an emergency summary hearing to take place before the witness statements at

Timeline of Simona Halep's tests and how nutritional supplements are made

Simona Halep passed the test carried out on August 26, 2022, three days before she "failed" the doping control after the lost match with Daria Snegur in the 1st round of the US Open. Moreover, Simona came out "negative" in the test carried out in Bucharest immediately after returning from New York.

The way nutritional supplements are made is different from the way drugs are made. Production control is distinct, nutritional supplements are not subject to the same rigors and there is a risk of the appearance in their composition of prohibited substances, not labeled in the prospectus. The risk that an athlete consumes such a supplement and comes out "positive" is very high, and the World Anti-Doping Agency sends very clear messages by which it does not authorize the use of these products that may contain prohibited substances.

Most of the time, contaminations are on anabolic steroids, androgens and stimulants. Anabolic and androgenic steroids are substances
with very serious side effects on health.


The link is the original Romanian text

https://www.prosport.ro/alte-sporturi/t ... 562369/amp