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Deuce wrote: ↑Thu Apr 01, 2021 11:27 am It just keeps getting better and better...

15 Million Johnson & Johnson Vaccine Doses Contaminated, Discarded

Do you think that maybe - just maybe - AZ's troubles are the catalyst of this decision to deceive the public...?

AstraZeneca Renames its Vaccine ‘Vaxzevria’

Sigh...

Sigh indeed.
It seems to me that this should be something in which private industry could do better than government. Make it socialist/capitalist: you want the vaccine and can pay for it? Fine. You pay for yours, and for three more people (not family) in line.
Of course, nothing that would assist in this contamination issue, but it can't be that not even the EU can get this thing going smoothly.
@Suliso: good for your folks. I bet that will make you feel better too. I am really worried about my mom being in Vennieland, where nothing works.

ponchi101 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 01, 2021 3:24 pm @Suliso: good for your folks. I bet that will make you feel better too. I am really worried about my mom being in Vennieland, where nothing works.

Definitely. Particularly since I can't convince mom that inviting people regularly to garden parties not the safest thing to do right now. At least neither of them are antivaxxers. Hope you can arrange something for your mom eventually.

My GF's sister in law, currently in Miami as a visitor, got her vaccine. One friend of her (my GF) who just turned 55 got his shot. More stories like that are all around.
The US is doing better than almost everybody else. Perhaps Israel and others are ahead but, all in all, Biden is delivering.

A friend of mine in Virginia got hers. She's only 35 and have no risk factors.

I got my second dose of Moderna yesterday, and I'm home from work with a fever today. That said, even a few more days like this would still be worth it to get the immunity from the vaccine.

Get better soon. Hope it is only temporary and you will be up and ready by tomorrow.

Togtdyalttai wrote: ↑Thu Apr 01, 2021 11:09 pm I got my second dose of Moderna yesterday, and I'm home from work with a fever today. That said, even a few more days like this would still be worth it to get the immunity from the vaccine.

Feel better!

So, obviously it's better than no vaccine, but I'm a little worried about the large percent of vaccines being J&J, with its lower efficacy. People are going to stop using precautions after vaccination, so, while J&J may be reliable to stop serious illness it's not necessarily going to stop the proliferation of the virus and, as we know, this thing mutates very effectively.

Not sure there's much to be done but if I weren't in dire need, for example, I would choose to hold out longer until more Pfizer/Moderna were available. I would probably prefer AZ to J&J too.

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Got my first shot of Moderna yesterday, though so not an issue for me personally (shot itself was painless, sore arm and I got super sleepy for a couple hours about 6 hours after the inoculation).

Togtdyalttai wrote: ↑Thu Apr 01, 2021 11:09 pm I got my second dose of Moderna yesterday, and I'm home from work with a fever today. That said, even a few more days like this would still be worth it to get the immunity from the vaccine.

Feel better - congrats!

Is that really so that AZ is better than JJ? I was under impression of opposite being the case...

Suliso wrote: ↑Fri Apr 02, 2021 2:12 pm Is that really so that AZ is better than JJ? I was under impression of opposite being the case...

AZ seems to have higher risks but efficacy is 76% (100% vs severe disease) while J&J is 66% (85% against severe disease). I think there are different results in different regions and age groups but these are the main overall stats

Maybe one can combine. Start with JJ and then give Pfizer or Moderna as a booster 4 weeks later.

This might end up being like a influenza vaccination regime. Once a year, you need your shot. There still is no evidence of for how long will this protect you. So maybe yes, start with J&J, then a boost, then regular vaccinations for a few years until we can drive the virus away. If that is possible at all.

Suliso wrote: ↑Fri Apr 02, 2021 2:57 pm Maybe one can combine. Start with JJ and then give Pfizer or Moderna as a booster 4 weeks later.

https://www.straitstimes.com/world/uk-s ... s-vaccines