Talk About Tennis 2.0

To me, Leylah Fernandez is the most overrated player in tennis history, but only by the segment that loves her game.

She gives away so many matches with terrible unforced error patches. And she stands too close to the baseline to be effective against in- form power players. Reminds me in that respect of Garcia without the first serve and Bouchard when she was motivated.

ponchi101 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 17, 2024 6:02 pm I would say that the field is something like any player below the top 16 seeds. And you have to add some players like Osaka, Andreescu and Raducanu, that have won it before.
But it is very vague, I agree.

Following new "field' guidelines, my revised list:

Swiatek = 20%
Sabalenka = 10%
Rybakina = 5%
Gauff = 5%
Pegula = 4%
Krejcikova = 4%
Ostapenko = 4%
Keys = 4%
Andreeva = 4%
Collins = 3%
Kasatkina = 3%
Navarro = 2%
Svitolina = 2%
Badosa = 2%
Osaka = 2%
Wozniacki = 1%
Azarenka = 0
Raducanu = 0
Stephens = 0
Bianca = 0
Now reduced field = 25%

ponchi101 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 17, 2024 6:02 pm I would say that the field is something like any player below the top 16 seeds. And you have to add some players like Osaka, Andreescu and Raducanu, that have won it before.
But it is very vague, I agree.

i would say 'field' is anyone not named explicitly by whoever is making the post..

jazzyg wrote: ↑Sat Aug 17, 2024 11:03 pm To me, Leylah Fernandez is the most overrated player in tennis history, but only by the segment that loves her game.

She gives away so many matches with terrible unforced error patches. And she stands too close to the baseline to be effective against in- form power players. Reminds me in that respect of Garcia without the first serve and Bouchard when she was motivated.

considering her size and strength, she is really very good.. she has capabilities that few people can match - the ability to take the ball early and redirect it, plus her movement at the net and volleying.. she is actually the best in the world at these, I think. Better on a fast court, of course, but then, they say, the USO is going to be fast, so look out for Leylah! she wont win the whole thing but she will do very well.

She does hit some incredible shots, but her style is not sustainable in my view. She was down a set and a break to Yue Yuan in the first round. I watched most of her match against Rybakina, who served for a straight sets win and had double match point before double faulting both of them away for her 15th and 16th double faults through two sets. She choked away that match rather than Leylah winning it. although Fernandez won the next two points with fantastic winners and played a better third set, when Rybakina double faulted only once.

I only caught the very end of her match with Pegula today, but her string of errors in the third-set tiebreak were really bad. That's what I've usually seen from her since her impressive U.S. open run, and she still got crushed by Raducanu in that final.

But she did get to the finals, beating some great players!

At a slam, you can get one lucky match. For example, Karen Khachanov would get lucky to draw Fran Cerundolo, who simply can't handle him. You can get lucky with a soft draw, and get to a final fresh.
But you don't win a slam or reach the final just on luck.
I don't like Leylah. Her fist pumping and constant jumping and other quirks bore me to tears. But she is s USO RU. That is not meaningless. She plays well and never quits. But that is the extent of her game.
I would never sit down through an entire with her playing.

Well, I quite like her feistiness..matter of taste

After seeing Carlos' kit I proceeded to downgrade him in my personal percentages for the USO

https://www.usopen.org/en_US/news/artic ... _draw.html

Ten straight US open appearances in the main draw for Schwartzman and 20 for Gasquet, but at least one of those streaks will be broken this tournament.

Do we increase Sinner's odds even further after his Cincy title?

ti-amie wrote: ↑Tue Aug 20, 2024 12:49 am

good to know.. we shall know after the first day I suppose

Pegula clearly isnt in the same league as the big 4..and not enough up-side to have a real shot at winning. and Coco hasnt been in such great form lately... so

Swiatek 25%
Sabalenka 20%
Rybakina 15%
Leylah 15%
Andreeva 10%
Coco 5%
Raducanu 5%
Osaka 5%
that is it. Field 0%