by ti-amie Tournament: China Open
Location: Beijing, China
Level: WTA 1000
Dates: September 24 - October 5, 2025
Total Financial Commitment: $8,963,700
Surface: Hard
Pos Player Rank
1 ARYNA SABALENKA 1
2 IGA SWIATEK(POL) 2
3 COCO GAUFF(USA) 3
4 JESSICA PEGULA(USA) 4
5 MIRRA ANDREEVA 5
6 MADISON KEYS(USA) 6
7 QINWEN ZHENG(CHN) 7
8 JASMINE PAOLINI(ITA) 8
9 AMANDA ANISIMOVA(USA) 9
10 ELENA RYBAKINA(KAZ) 10
11 EMMA NAVARRO(USA) 11
12 EKATERINA ALEXANDROVA 12
13 KAROLINA MUCHOVA(CZE) 13
14 CLARA TAUSON(DEN) 14
15 ELINA SVITOLINA(UKR) 15
16 PAULA BADOSA(ESP) 16
17 DIANA SHNAIDER 17
18 DARIA KASATKINA(AUS) 18
19 BELINDA BENCIC(SUI) 19
20 LIUDMILA SAMSONOVA 20
21 ELISE MERTENS(BEL) 21
22 BEATRIZ HADDAD MAIA(BRA) 22
23 VICTORIA MBOKO(CAN) 23
24 NAOMI OSAKA(JPN) 24
25 VERONIKA KUDERMETOVA 25
26 JELENA OSTAPENKO(LAT) 26
27 SOFIA KENIN(USA) 27
28 MARTA KOSTYUK(UKR) 28
29 ANNA KALINSKAYA 29
30 LEYLAH FERNANDEZ(CAN) 30
31 DAYANA YASTREMSKA(UKR) 31
32 LINDA NOSKOVA(CZE) 32
33 MAGDALENA FRECH(POL) 33
34 XINYU WANG(CHN) 34
35 REBECCA SRAMKOVA(SVK) 35
36 EMMA RADUCANU(GBR) 36
37 MAGDA LINETTE(POL) 37
38 ASHLYN KRUEGER(USA) 38
39 OLGA DANILOVIC(SRB) 39
40 JESSICA BOUZAS MANEIRO(ESP) 40
41 MCCARTNEY KESSLER(USA) 41
42 TATJANA MARIA(GER) 42
43 MAYA JOINT(AUS) 43
44 MARIE BOUZKOVA(CZE) 44
45 ANASTASIA PAVLYUCHENKOVA 45
46 LOIS BOISSON(FRA) 46
47 HAILEY BAPTISTE(USA) 47
48 KATIE BOULTER(GBR) 48
49 DONNA VEKIC(CRO) 49
50 JAQUELINE CRISTIAN(ROU) 50
51 SONAY KARTAL(GBR) 51
52 LAURA SIEGEMUND(GER) 52
53 ANASTASIA POTAPOVA 53
54 PEYTON STEARNS(USA) 54
55 YULIA PUTINTSEVA(KAZ) 55
56 ALYCIA PARKS(USA) 56
57 LUCIA BRONZETTI(ITA) 57
58 ANN LI(USA) 58
59 EVA LYS(GER) 59
60 MARKETA VONDROUSOVA(CZE) 60
61 DANIELLE COLLINS(USA) 61
62 BARBORA KREJCIKOVA(CZE) 62
63 CAMILA OSORIO(COL) 63
64 MARIA SAKKARI(GRE) 64
65 BIANCA ANDREESCU(CAN) PR64
66 KAMILLA RAKHIMOVA 65
67 ANASTASIJA SEVASTOVA(LAT) PR65
68 SUZAN LAMENS(NED) 66
69 POLINA KUDERMETOVA 67
70 YULIIA STARODUBTSEVA(UKR) 68
71 ANTONIA RUZIC(CRO) 69
72 ELENA-GABRIELA RUSE(ROU) 70
73 SORANA CIRSTEA(ROU) 71
74 CATY MCNALLY(USA) PR71
75 YAFAN WANG(CHN) PR71
76 VIKTORIJA GOLUBIC(SUI) 72
by ti-amie Updates
MD Update
Collins OUT
Jovic IN
Q Update
Zarazua OUT
Stefanini IN
by ti-amie Sabalenka is out.
So is Pavs.
by ti-amie Women's Singles Main Draw Wildcards (8):
Zhang Shuai
Yuan Yue
Wang Xiyu
Guo Hanyu
Zhu Lin
Wei Siji
Shi Han
Zhang Ruien
by ashkor87 The court at Beijing appears significantly slower than the USO.. at best medium-paced. I wouldnt expect Pegula, Navarro, Mertens to do well.. they need at least SOME help from the court, which they wont get. Samsonova, Noskova, Yastremska and Kostyuk will do better than their ranking and seeding suggest. Rybakina appears to be playing well, and the court will suit her. Anisimova too, but not clear that where she is mentally - withdrew from Korea for no good reason? So: buy Rybakina, Ystaremska, Kostyuk, Noskova, Samsonova.. sell Pegula, Navarro, Mertens at this tournament..
by
Fastbackss ti-amie wrote: ↑Wed Sep 17, 2025 11:05 pm
Women's Singles Main Draw Wildcards (8):
Zhang Shuai
Yuan Yue
Wang Xiyu
Guo Hanyu
Zhu Lin
Wei Siji
Shi Han
Zhang Ruien
Some sort of trend here, just trying to figure out what it is.
(Indian wells was 6/8 for what it was worth)
by
Owendonovan Fastbackss wrote: ↑Mon Sep 22, 2025 11:21 pm
ti-amie wrote: ↑Wed Sep 17, 2025 11:05 pm
Women's Singles Main Draw Wildcards (8):
Zhang Shuai
Yuan Yue
Wang Xiyu
Guo Hanyu
Zhu Lin
Wei Siji
Shi Han
Zhang Ruien
Some sort of trend here, just trying to figure out what it is.
(Indian wells was 6/8 for what it was worth)
Peng Shuai still not in the tournament?(or in the public...)
by
ashkor87
who is that? she never existed, all a figment of some woke imagination!!
by ponchi101 I see your point, but her disappearance is not far from what we have been talking about (in another topic) about fascism and totalitarian regimes.
If she is never seen again in public, she never existed. A frightening thing.
by
ashkor87 ponchi101 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 23, 2025 9:49 am
but her disappearance is not far from what we have been talking about (in another topic) about fascism and totalitarian regimes.
yes, that is what I was alluding to... she has probably been erased..
by JTContinental There have been periodic sightings of her in the following years, including as recently as January 2025, so I'd say she's more diluted than erased. I read she was onsite hitting balls during the Beijing tournament last year. Her entire personality does seem to be gone, though.
by Owendonovan Very interested to see if the adjustments to Coco's game have stuck at all, or if we're months away from that.
by ti-amie Thu, 25 September, 2025 (Day 4)
Capital Group Diamond Starts At 11:00
A. Muller Vs (5) K. Khachanov
Followed By
M. Uchijima (Q) Vs L. Zhu (WC)
Followed By
D. Vekic Vs C. Bucsa (Q)
Not Before 19:00
J. Sinner (1) Vs M. Cilic
Followed By
Y. Yuan (WC) Vs Y. Putintseva
Lotus Starts At 11:00
H. Guo (WC) Vs X. Wang (WC)
Not Before 13:00
B. Bonzi Vs F. Marozsan
Followed By
T. Atmane (Q) Vs (WC) Z. Zhang
Followed By
A. Davidovich Fokina Vs C. Ugo Carabelli
Followed By
S. Lamens Vs Y. Wang
Moon Starts At 11:00
Z. Sonmez Vs S. Wei (WC)
Followed By
R. Sramkova Vs E. Ruse
Followed By
K. Siniakova Vs A. Potapova
Followed By
S. Kartal Vs A. Parks
Brad Drewett Starts At 11:00
A. Li Vs C. Osorio
Followed By
M. Frech Vs E. Seidel (Q)
Followed By
L. Boisson Vs D. Galfi (Q)
Followed By
J. Bouzas Maneiro Vs J. Cristian
Court 3 Starts At 11:00
A. Tomljanovic Vs Y. Starodubtseva
Followed By
A. Sasnovich (Q) Vs J. Tjen (Q)
Followed By
V. Jimenez Kasintseva (Q) Vs M. Joint
Court 5 Starts At 14:00
R16
M. Melo/A. Zverev Vs (WC) Y. Bu/C. Norrie
Followed By
R16
S. Doumbia/F. Reboul Vs A. Bublik/L. Musetti
by ti-amie ATP MD
1 SINNER, Jannik ITA vs CILIC, Marin CRO
Q ATMANE, Terence FRA vs WC ZHANG, Zhizhen CHN
BONZI, Benjamin FRA vs MAROZSAN, Fabian HUN
MULLER, Alexandre FRA vs 5 KHACHANOV, Karen
3 DE MINAUR, Alex AUS vs WC BU, Yunchaokete CHN
Q GOFFIN, David BEL vs ETCHEVERRY, Tomas M… ARG
WC SHANG, Juncheng CHN vs Q CAZAUX, Arthur FRA
KECMANOVIC, Miomir SRB vs 7 MENSIK, Jakub CZE
6 RUBLEV, Andrey vs COBOLLI, Flavio ITA
TIEN, Learner USA vs CERUNDOLO, Francisco ARG
Q MANNARINO, Adrian FRA vs BUBLIK, Alexander KAZ
MPETSHI PERRICARD, … FRA vs 4 MUSETTI, Lorenzo ITA
8 MEDVEDEV, Daniil vs NORRIE, Cameron GBR
DAVIDOVICH FOKINA, Al… ESP vs UGO CARABELLI, Camilo ARG
MOUTET, Corentin FRA vs GRIEKSPOOR, Tallon NED
SONEGO, Lorenzo ITA vs 2 ZVEREV, Alexander GER
by
ti-amie All of the info for the ATP 500 in Beijing is still under the combined heading with Tokyo since Beijing is the first post and to move it would delete the thread.
viewtopic.php?t=2876
by ti-amie Friday 26 September, 2025 (Day 5)
Capital Group Diamond Starts At 11:00
K. Rakhimova Vs C. Gauff (2)
Not Before 13:00
A. de Minaur (3) Vs (WC) Y. Bu
Followed By
D. Medvedev (8) Vs C. Norrie
Not Before 19:00
X. Wang (31) Vs S. Zhang (WC)
Followed By
L. Sonego Vs (2) A. Zverev
Lotus Starts At 11:00
A. Rublev (6) Vs F. Cobolli
Not Before 13:00
E. Rybakina (8) Vs C. McNally
Followed By
J. Paolini (6) Vs A. Sevastova
Followed By
K. Boulter Vs A. Anisimova (3)
Not Before 19:00
G. Mpetshi Perricard Vs (4) L. Musetti
Moon Starts At 11:00
M. Kecmanovic Vs (7) J. Mensik
Followed By
J. Shang (WC) Vs (Q) A. Cazaux
Followed By
A. Mannarino (Q) Vs A. Bublik
Followed By
B. Krejcikova Vs E. Alexandrova (9)
Followed By
K. Muchova (13) Vs S. Cirstea
Brad Drewett Starts At 11:00
D. Goffin (Q) Vs (LL) A. Rinderknech
Followed By
L. Tien Vs F. Cerundolo
Followed By
C. Moutet Vs T. Griekspoor
Followed By
P. Hon (Q) Vs J. Ostapenko (22)
Followed By
B. Bencic (15) Vs K. Volynets (Q)
Court 3 Starts At 11:00
L. Fernandez (25) Vs M. Sakkari
Followed By
E. Lys Vs I. Jovic (32)
Followed By
A. Ruzic Vs P. Badosa (18)
Followed By
E. Mertens (20) Vs M. Kessler
Court 5 Starts At 11:00
P. Kudermetova Vs S. Kenin (27)
Followed By
M. Bouzkova Vs M. Linette (33)
Followed By
V. Kudermetova (24) Vs A. Bondar (Q)
Not Before 16:00
N. Skupski/J. Smith Vs (2) M. Arevalo/M. Pavic
Followed By
S. Bolelli/A. Vavassori (4) Vs B. Bonzi/T. Griekspoor
Court 4 Starts At 11:00
M. Andreeva/D. Shnaider (5) Vs T. Mihalikova/O. Nicholls
Followed By
G. Dabrowski/E. Routliffe (1) Vs N. Melichar-Martinez/L. Samsonova
Followed By
S. Hunter/D. Krawczyk Vs M. Kato/F. Stollar
Followed By
H. Guo/A. Panova (8) Vs K. Rakhimova/L. Siegemund
by ashkor87 looking forward to seeing how osaka does, and Andreeva too..Mirra needs a strong showing now to justify the hype. Mboko also needs to do well here.
by ponchi101 Mboko is still too young to "have to do well" anywhere. And Mirra's poor showing of late are the normal hiccups of almost all players.
This is not a generation of Steffi's, Monica's and Serena's, arriving and establishing themselves at the top in an immovable way. These players will take time.
by ashkor87 now that I have watched some of the highlights, the court looks a bit faster than medium-paced.. a tad slower than the USO, perhaps, but not much. Doesnt change the prognostication too much - I expect Leylah, Coco, Muchova to do well - better than Mertens (who is already out), Navarro, Pegula - Bencic is very versatile, she may do ok, we shall see.
Anisimova is playing very well, she may even win this whole thing..the court is just about right for her.
Probabilities:
Anisimova 30%
Swiatek 25%
Gauff 15%
Muchova, Paolini 10% each
Field 10%
by
JTContinental ponchi101 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 26, 2025 2:50 pm
Mboko is still too young to "have to do well" anywhere. And Mirra's poor showing of late are the normal hiccups of almost all players.
This is not a generation of Steffi's, Monica's and Serena's, arriving and establishing themselves at the top in an immovable way. These players will take time.
Mboko will only be adding points for the next 10+ months--she bought herself a year on tour to prove that she's legit with her Canada results.
Andreeva is still recovering from a pretty serious ankle roll--she looked slow af in her US Open loss despite opinions to the contrary. I also still don't think her shot selection is at an elite level, although it has improved considerably under Conchita's eye.
by
JTContinental ashkor87 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 26, 2025 3:36 pm
now that I have watched some of the highlights, the court looks a bit faster than medium-paced.. a tad slower than the USO, perhaps, but not much. Doesnt change the prognostication too much - I expect Leylah, Coco, Muchova to do well - better than Mertens (who is already out), Navarro, Pegula - Bencic is very versatile, she may do ok, we shall see.
Anisimova is playing very well, she may even win this whole thing..the court is just about right for her.
Probabilities:
Anisimova 30%
Swiatek 25%
Gauff 15%
Muchova, Paolini 10% each
Field 10%
Only one of Leylah/Coco will do will since they play each other next in the R32.
by ti-amie Saturday 27 September, 2025 (Day 6)
Capital Group Diamond Starts At 11:00
M. Andreeva (4) Vs L. Zhu (WC)
Followed By
I. Swiatek (1) Vs Y. Yuan (WC)
Not Before 15:00
J. Sinner (1) Vs (Q) T. Atmane
Not Before 19:00
E. Arango Vs Q. Zheng (7)
Not Before 20:30
A. Cazaux (Q) Vs (7) J. Mensik
Lotus Starts At 11:00
F. Marozsan Vs A. Muller
Not Before 12:30
A. de Minaur (3) Vs (LL) A. Rinderknech
Not Before 15:00
A. Tomljanovic Vs J. Pegula (5)
Followed By
N. Osaka (12) Vs A. Sasnovich (Q)
Not Before 19:00
E. Raducanu (30) Vs C. Bucsa (Q)
Moon Starts At 11:00
A. Potapova Vs V. Mboko (21)
Followed By
C. Tauson (10) Vs Z. Sonmez
Followed By
L. Noskova (26) Vs X. Wang (WC)
Followed By
S. Kartal Vs D. Kasatkina (14)
Not Before 19:00
J. Shang/Z. Zhang (WC) Vs (Q) G. Andreozzi/M. Guinard
Brad Drewett Starts At 11:00
E. Ruse Vs E. Navarro (16)
Followed By
L. Samsonova (19) Vs L. Boisson
Followed By
E. Seidel (Q) Vs M. Kostyuk (23)
Followed By
K. Mladenovic/S. Zhang Vs (WC) P. Hon/K. Muchova
Followed By
V. Kudermetova/E. Mertens (3) Vs (WC) Q. Tang/X. Wang
Court 3 Starts At 11:00
C. Osorio Vs A. Kalinskaya (28)
Followed By
D. Shnaider (17) Vs M. Joint
Followed By
H. Chan/X. Jiang Vs (4) S. Hsieh/J. Ostapenko
Court 5 Starts At 11:00
J. Cristian/L. Fernandez Vs L. Kichenok/E. Perez
Not Before 12:00
J. Cash/L. Glasspool (1) Vs F. Cobolli/L. Sonego
Followed By
K. Khachanov/A. Rublev Vs F. Cerundolo/A. Muller
Followed By
A. Davidovich Fokina/A. de Minaur Vs (3) H. Heliovaara/H. Patten
Court 4 Starts At 11:00
J. Bouzas Maneiro Vs D. Yastremska (29)
Not Before 12:30
I. Khromacheva/A. Sutjiadi Vs (2) S. Errani/J. Paolini
Followed By
S. Kenin/M. Kessler Vs U. Eikeri/G. Olmos
Followed By
S. Cirstea/A. Kalinskaya Vs (7) T. Babos/L. Stefani
by ashkor87 QZ returns.. interested to see if she is recovered.. Raducanu has a tough match.. Bucsa has been playing well..
by ti-amie With Raducanu working with Roig I think she has a chance of winning this one.
by Suliso Surprised Osaka lost after dominating the first set.
by
ti-amie Suliso wrote: ↑Sat Sep 27, 2025 11:54 am
Surprised Osaka lost after dominating the first set.
I saw quite a bit of the match and I still don't know how she managed to lose.
by ti-amie Sunday 28 September, 2025 (Day 7)
Capital Group Diamond Starts At 11:00
F. Cobolli Vs L. Tien
Not Before 13:00
L. Fernandez (25) Vs C. Gauff (2)
Followed By
J. Paolini (6) Vs S. Kenin (27)
Not Before 19:00
C. Moutet Vs (2) A. Zverev
Followed By
S. Zhang (WC) Vs A. Anisimova (3)
Lotus Starts At 11:00
E. Rybakina (8) Vs E. Lys
Not Before 13:00
A. Mannarino (Q) Vs (4) L. Musetti
Followed By
D. Medvedev (8) Vs A. Davidovich Fokina
Not Before 17:00
K. Muchova (13) Vs P. Badosa (18)
Followed By
QF
Y. Bu/C. Norrie (WC) Vs (3) H. Heliovaara/H. Patten
Moon Starts At 12:00
M. Kessler Vs B. Krejcikova
Not Before 13:30
V. Kudermetova (24) Vs M. Bouzkova
Followed By
B. Bencic (15) Vs P. Hon (Q)
Followed By
Y. Shao/R. Zhang (WC) Vs (6) A. Muhammad/D. Schuurs
Brad Drewett Starts At 11:00
M. Joint/C. McNally Vs E. Hozumi/F. Wu
Not Before 12:00
Y. Xu/Z. Yang Vs A. Krueger/J. Pegula
Followed By
M. Linette/C. Tauson Vs A. Danilina/A. Krunic
Followed By
B. Krejcikova/K. Siniakova Vs S. Aoyama/C. Bucsa
Court 5 Starts At 13:00
QF
B. Bonzi/T. Griekspoor Vs S. Doumbia/F. Reboul
by ti-amie
They were there for Naomi too...
by ashkor87 Many players are foraying to the net and it is working for them - even Kostyuk, whom I dont see normally as a volleyer, did it very effectively.. the court isnt lightning fast, so you have to do something to put the ball away, it is not easy to hit a winner. Muchova and Leylah will do well here.
as with many hard courts, those top spun second serves arent working too well.. they just sit up and beg to be hit..most players are good at that these days.. I think slice would work better .. wish someone would try it..
by ashkor87 As for Pegula, she is of course a great volleyer so was using it well, and she was hitting very deep - most of her shots were landing within a foot of the line.. would be good for her to keep that up..
by Suliso Rybakina lost to Lys - another very surprising result to me.
by
ashkor87 Suliso wrote: ↑Sun Sep 28, 2025 6:09 am
Rybakina lost to Lys - another very surprising result to me.
i did see Rybakina struggling with an elbow problem in the previous match so who knows..
by JTContinental Gauff will qualify for the YEC with one more win here
by Suliso Yes, but I'd like to see what kind of crazy results would have to happen for her to NOT qualify without it. How do they even calculate that?
by ashkor87 and.... Badosa pulls a Badosa.
by ponchi101 I stopped keeping track of her retirements. By now, it is accepted. Her body can't deal with this sport for more than a couple of weeks.
by ti-amie Monday 29 September, 2025 (Day 8)
Capital Group Diamond Starts At 11:00
M. Andreeva (4) Vs J. Bouzas Maneiro
Not Before 13:00
A. de Minaur (3) Vs (7) J. Mensik
Followed By
J. Sinner (1) Vs F. Marozsan
Not Before 19:00
L. Noskova (26) Vs Q. Zheng (7)
Not Before 20:30
D. Medvedev (8) Vs (2) A. Zverev
Lotus Starts At 11:00
J. Cash/L. Glasspool (1) Vs K. Khachanov/A. Rublev
Not Before 13:00
L. Boisson Vs E. Navarro (16)
Not Before 14:30
I. Swiatek (1) Vs C. Osorio
Followed By
E. Raducanu (30) Vs J. Pegula (5)
Not Before 19:00
L. Tien Vs (4) L. Musetti
Moon Starts At 11:00
G. Andreozzi/M. Guinard (Q) Vs (2) M. Arevalo/M. Pavic
Not Before 12:30
A. Sasnovich (Q) Vs M. Kostyuk (23)
Followed By
M. Joint Vs S. Kartal
Followed By
Z. Sonmez Vs A. Potapova
Brad Drewett Starts At 11:00
T. Mihalikova/O. Nicholls Vs U. Eikeri/G. Olmos
Not Before 12:00
L. Kichenok/E. Perez Vs (2) S. Errani/J. Paolini
Followed By
V. Kudermetova/E. Mertens (3) Vs M. Kato/F. Stollar
Followed By
K. Rakhimova/L. Siegemund Vs E. Hozumi/F. Wu
by
ptmcmahon ti-amie wrote: ↑Sat Sep 27, 2025 1:49 am
With Raducanu working with Roig I think she has a chance of winning this one.
Winning that one match or the tournament?
ponchi101 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 28, 2025 5:48 pm
I stopped keeping track of her retirements. By now, it is accepted. Her body can't deal with this sport for more than a couple of weeks.
I was thinking about her for biggest Loser, then was worried she may just wind up WD'ing before tournament starts.
by ponchi101 I never consider her for anything. She is that much of a gamble.
by
JTContinental Suliso wrote: ↑Sun Sep 28, 2025 10:59 am
Yes, but I'd like to see what kind of crazy results would have to happen for her to NOT qualify without it. How do they even calculate that?
She likely will. Someone much mathier than me on the WTA Live Ranking site figures out the the point total needed to lock down a spot each week--this week the qualifying cut line is 5350 points and Coco is currently sitting at 5304.
by
ti-amie ptmcmahon wrote: ↑Mon Sep 29, 2025 1:10 pm
ti-amie wrote: ↑Sat Sep 27, 2025 1:49 am
With Raducanu working with Roig I think she has a chance of winning this one.
Winning that one match or the tournament?
ponchi101 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 28, 2025 5:48 pm
I stopped keeping track of her retirements. By now, it is accepted. Her body can't deal with this sport for more than a couple of weeks.
I was thinking about her for biggest Loser, then was worried she may just wind up WD'ing before tournament starts.
I figured Raducanu would win the match vs Bucsa. She didn't make it past Pegula.
by ti-amie Tuesday 30 September, 2025 (Day 9)
Capital Group Diamond Starts At 11:00
B. Bencic (15) Vs C. Gauff (2)
Not Before 14:00
SF
J. Sinner (1) Vs (3) A. de Minaur
Not Before 17:00
SF
L. Tien Vs (8) D. Medvedev
Not Before 19:00
K. Muchova (13) Vs A. Anisimova (3)
Followed By
J. Paolini (6) Vs M. Bouzkova
Lotus Starts At 11:00
Y. Xu/Z. Yang Vs (7) T. Babos/L. Stefani
Not Before 13:30
E. Lys Vs M. Kessler
Followed By
N. Melichar-Martinez/L. Samsonova Vs A. Danilina/A. Krunic
Followed By
S. Aoyama/C. Bucsa Vs (4) S. Hsieh/J. Ostapenko
Brad Drewett Starts At 12:00
SF
K. Khachanov/A. Rublev Vs B. Bonzi/T. Griekspoor
Not Before 13:00
SF
H. Heliovaara/H. Patten (3) Vs (Q) G. Andreozzi/M. Guinard
by ti-amie Wednesday 01 October, 2025 (Day 10)
Capital Group Diamond Starts At 11:30
F
K. Khachanov/A. Rublev Vs (3) H. Heliovaara/H. Patten
Not Before 14:00
F
J. Sinner (1) Vs L. Tien
Not Before 19:00
I. Swiatek (1) Vs E. Navarro (16)
Followed By
M. Kostyuk (23) Vs J. Pegula (5)
Lotus Starts At 14:30
A. Potapova Vs L. Noskova (26)
Followed By
M. Andreeva (4) Vs S. Kartal
Followed By
P. Hon/K. Muchova (WC) Vs (6) A. Muhammad/D. Schuurs
by ashkor87 Navarro beat Swiatek 6-0 in the third set! wow! never would have thunk it. wonder what happened.. cant see the match unfortunately.. someone who did, may please enlighten me
by
Oploskoffie ashkor87 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 01, 2025 2:43 pm
Navarro beat Swiatek 6-0 in the third set! wow! never would have thunk it. wonder what happened.. cant see the match unfortunately.. someone who did, may please enlighten me
I didn't get to see it either, but this little snippet from the WTA website may be a clue as to what transpired...
"Swiatek, who committed 70 unforced errors..."
by JTContinental First top 10 win for Kartal over Andreeva
by ti-amie Thursday Order of Play
Capital Group Diamond
Starts at 1:00 AM
Quarterfinals
Upcoming
JPN Kato /HUN/Stollar vs HUN Babos /BRA Stefani (7)
Starts: 13:00 (Venue) 01:00 (Your time)
Quarterfinals
Upcoming
GER E. Lys vs USA C. Gauff (2)
Not before: 15:00 (Venue) 03:00 (Your time)
Quarterfinals
Upcoming
ITA J. Paolini (6) vs USA A. Anisimova (3)
Not before: 18:00 (Venue) 06:00 (Your time)
Quarterfinals
Upcoming
KAZ Danilina /SRB Krunic vs AUS Hon / CZE Muchova
by
ashkor87 Oploskoffie wrote: ↑Wed Oct 01, 2025 7:09 pm
ashkor87 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 01, 2025 2:43 pm
Navarro beat Swiatek 6-0 in the third set! wow! never would have thunk it. wonder what happened.. cant see the match unfortunately.. someone who did, may please enlighten me
I didn't get to see it either, but this little snippet from the WTA website may be a clue as to what transpired...
"Swiatek, who committed 70 unforced errors..."
people are just tired after a long season, maybe.. Alcaraz has pulled out of Shanghai, after complaining about the schedule. This court is so unforgiving, you have to hit the ball a million times to get it past your opponent, Swiatek must have gotten frustrated..she is human, I guess.
by ponchi101 I really would like to hear from the old guard, playing 20 tournaments a year, and flying in commercial airlines, about the length of the season.
And I do mean it. Not being sarcastic. I would love to hear what Vilas would say about the long season nowadays.
by
ashkor87 JTContinental wrote: ↑Wed Oct 01, 2025 8:09 pm
First top 10 win for Kartal over Andreeva
and the wta website (which just won an award!) talks about how Andreeva got past Kartal.. wonder which world they live in!
by ashkor87 very impressed with Eva Lys.. great movement, footwork, balance.. I hear she has an automimmune condition she has to manage.. sad to hear.
Born in Ukraine, moved to Germany at age 2..
by
skatingfan ponchi101 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 02, 2025 2:18 pm
I really would like to hear from the old guard, playing 20 tournaments a year, and flying in commercial airlines, about the length of the season.
And I do mean it. Not being sarcastic. I would love to hear what Vilas would say about the long season nowadays.
How many of those flights were domestic within the US? There used to be a lot more tournaments in the US, and players would go to Europe for a few months or less, and then back to the US.
by JTContinental Anisimova punches her ticket to her first YEC with her win over Paolini.
by
ponchi101 skatingfan wrote: ↑Thu Oct 02, 2025 3:02 pm
ponchi101 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 02, 2025 2:18 pm
I really would like to hear from the old guard, playing 20 tournaments a year, and flying in commercial airlines, about the length of the season.
And I do mean it. Not being sarcastic. I would love to hear what Vilas would say about the long season nowadays.
How many of those flights were domestic within the US? There used to be a lot more tournaments in the US, and players would go to Europe for a few months or less, and then back to the US.
Absolutely. The US summer circuit was there for a reason.
But the US is not a small country. It is not France, where you cannot fly for more than an hour without leaving the country.
You know my position. Carlos has played 74 matches this year, which is a lot by modern standards. He may finish the year around ... 90? That is 54 matches less than Vilas' record.
Really. I would like to have a glass of wine with Vilas and talk about that.
by ti-amie Friday Order of Play
Capital Group Diamond
Starts at 1:00 AM
Quarterfinals
SVK Mihalikova /GBR Nicholls vs TPE Hsieh /LAT Ostapenko (4)
Starts: 13:00 (Venue) 01:00 (Your time)
Quarterfinals
Upcoming
GBR S. Kartal vs CZE L. Noskova (26)
Not before: 15:00 (Venue) 03:00 (Your time)
Quarterfinals
Upcoming
USA E. Navarro (16) vs USA J. Pegula (5)
Not before: 18:00 (Venue) 06:00 (Your time)
by ashkor87 Hoping for a Noskova - Pegula semifinal.. Noskova is one of my favorites, young player with great potential.. Anisimova - Coco will be a great semifinal too.. I still expect Anisimova to win this title but it is getting very tough now. Coco is defending champion after all.
by ashkor87 well, that worked out. I hope Noskova gives a good account of herself.
by ti-amie Saturday Order of Play
Capital Group Diamond
Starts at 1:00 AM
Semifinals
TPE Hsieh /LAT Ostapenko (4) vs ITA Errani/ITA Paolini (2)
Starts: 13:00 (Venue) 01:00 (Your time)
Semifinals
Upcoming
USA A. Anisimova (3) vs USA C. Gauff (2)
Not before: 15:00 (Venue) 03:00 (Your time)
Semifinals
Upcoming
USA J. Pegula (5) vs CZE L. Noskova (26)
Not before: 18:00 (Venue) 06:00 (Your time)
by ashkor87 On a relatively slow court like this one, there are only 3 ways to win:
1. blast winners - for which you need to be able to generate your own power, lots of it.
2. go to the net and put away volleys - you need foot speed to get there, court sense to know when to go there, plus touch and feel to put the volley away - Paolini, Pegula, did that here.
3. it is theoretically possible to just wear your opponent down, by returning everything, redirecting the ball, creating openings and then hitting through them.Navarro did that against Swiatek. Bencic does that too. Mertens is another.. Sloane used to be great at it.
The trouble with method 3 is that you will, sooner or later, come up against a good practitioner of methods 1 or 2, in which case you cannot win.
which is how people beat Medvedev these days - they dont try to rally with him - Zverev tried and it didnt work.
In general, women who have the power to blast winners are not many but there is a handful - Sabalenka, Anisimova, Noskova, Rybakina, Keys
Great Practioners of method 2 are Pegula, Paolini, Muchova, Leylah. Maybe Krejcikova.
Not sure about Swiatek and Coco..
Wuhan is the last test of the season (the Riyadh court is similar, too, I think).
by ashkor87 Anisimova just beat Coco 1 and 2
by ashkor87 being greedy, I now want Noskova to beat Pegula..or, at least, do well...
by
ashkor87 ashkor87 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 04, 2025 10:53 am
being greedy, I now want Noskova to beat Pegula..or, at least, do well...
NOWWWW i am happy. This court suits Noskova, doesnt suit Pegula. Not that I dislike Pegula, just that I am happy to see my conjecture proved right. Too many people here think court speed is a myth, of no consequance.
by
ponchi101 ashkor87 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 04, 2025 12:40 pm
ashkor87 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 04, 2025 10:53 am
being greedy, I now want Noskova to beat Pegula..or, at least, do well...
NOWWWW i am happy. This court suits Noskova, doesnt suit Pegula. Not that I dislike Pegula, just that I am happy to see my conjecture proved right. Too many people here think court speed is a myth, of no consequance.
You can call me by name. No issues there. After all, I have put that in writing. And it is not TOO MANY PEOPLE. I have yet to see somebody else talk about court speed. Certainly not with the frequency that you bring it up.
But, if you don't mind, the next time that your predictions do not pan out, mention that too. Otherwise, It is called confirmation bias.
Also: good calls.
by
Owendonovan ashkor87 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 04, 2025 8:08 am
Anisimova just beat Coco 1 and 2
Wholly unsurprising.
by ti-amie Sunday Order of Play
Capital Group Diamond
Starts at 4:30 AM
Final
JPN Kato /HUN Stollar vs ITA Errani /ITA Paolini (2)
Final
Upcoming
CZE L. Noskova (26) vs USA A. Anisimova (3)
by
ashkor87 ponchi101 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 04, 2025 1:35 pm
I have yet to see somebody else talk about court speed. Certainly not with the frequency that you bring it up.
I only do it because nobody else seems to bring it up. As I said below, if nobody is interested, I am happy to stop posting.
by
ashkor87 ponchi101 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 04, 2025 1:35 pm
the next time that your predictions do not pan out, mention that too.
I do, often. You may not have been noticing.
anyway, it is not the prediction that matters - I am not betting after all (illegal here anyway!) - my point is my discussion of what happens when the court is slow, which is a more general discussion about tennis. I would have expected more people to comment, but nobody does.. except you, and your main point is it doesnt matter (which I dont agree with).
If nobody is interested, I am happy to stop posting. I do not need anybody's endorsement.
by Suliso Do we think Anisimova will win a Slam (or two) and rise to #1 next year? I think there is a fair chance of that happening.
by Owendonovan I do! (once she stops taking these one set breaks)
by
ashkor87 ashkor87 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 26, 2025 3:36 pm
now that I have watched some of the highlights, the court looks a bit faster than medium-paced.. a tad slower than the USO, perhaps, but not much. Doesnt change the prognostication too much - I expect Leylah, Coco, Muchova to do well - better than Mertens (who is already out), Navarro, Pegula - Bencic is very versatile, she may do ok, we shall see.
Anisimova is playing very well, she may even win this whole thing..the court is just about right for her.
Probabilities:
Anisimova 30%
Swiatek 25%
Gauff 15%
Muchova, Paolini 10% each
Field 10%
very odd score though, in the finals - 6-0, 2-6, 6-2.. must watch highlights to see what happened..
by mick1303 Since the turn of the century it has been 25 players in WTA, who won multiple Tier I tournaments in a single year. Amanda Anisimova became #26. Previous one (#25) was Andreeva, who also done it this year.
by
ponchi101 ashkor87 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 05, 2025 1:39 am
ponchi101 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 04, 2025 1:35 pm
the next time that your predictions do not pan out, mention that too.
I do, often. You may not have been noticing.
anyway, it is not the prediction that matters - I am not betting after all (illegal here anyway!) - my point is my discussion of what happens when the court is slow, which is a more general discussion about tennis. I would have expected more people to comment, but nobody does.. except you, and your main point is it doesnt matter (which I dont agree with).
If nobody is interested, I am happy to stop posting. I do not need anybody's endorsement.
The fact that nobody has replied to your post does not mean they are uninterested. People read a lot here.
And yes, you and I are in disagreement about court speed. I believe other factors are much more important. Balls make a more variable factor than court speed nowadays (to me).
But nowadays, it is not the 90's, in which you had some courts that were like polished glass and some were molasses. You knew that if a Spaniard player was going to play Pete on an indoor court late in the season, his chances were nil. On clay, early in the spring? He had a very good chance.
Now, all courts are roughly the same. I believe that is one of the reasons why the big three were able to complete career slams, and J/C will too. In the meantime, Connors, Mac, Lendl, Wilander, Edberg, Becker and Sampras were not able. The courts were way different in the past.
by
ponchi101 Suliso wrote: ↑Sun Oct 05, 2025 12:59 pm
Do we think Anisimova will win a Slam (or two) and rise to #1 next year? I think there is a fair chance of that happening.
I don't believe she can win two. One, yes, two, that is a bit too much.
And rising to #1 takes a lot of consistency. And I believe she does not focus as well as she could on the sport. She has a life outside of the court. So, I don't know. I believe Aryna and Iga will remain the two players ranked at the top.
by
mick1303 mick1303 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 05, 2025 1:52 pm
Since the turn of the century it has been 25 players in WTA, who won multiple Tier I tournaments in a single year. Amanda Anisimova became #26. Previous one (#25) was Andreeva, who also done it this year.
The same number for men is only 14 players. Big 3 effect in a nutshell
by
ponchi101 mick1303 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 05, 2025 2:02 pm
mick1303 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 05, 2025 1:52 pm
Since the turn of the century it has been 25 players in WTA, who won multiple Tier I tournaments in a single year. Amanda Anisimova became #26. Previous one (#25) was Andreeva, who also done it this year.
The same number for men is only 14 players. Big 3 effect in a nutshell
Yep. I remember when the sole MS1000 that would be won by other players was Paris-Bercy, simply because R/R/N would not go there. And then they started going and it was over for that too.
by
ti-amie The Tennis Letter
@thetennisletter.bsky.social
· 8h
Linda Noskova after losing to Amanda Anisimova in the Beijing final:
“I wanna congratulate Amanda. You’ve been playing amazing throughout this whole year. You’ve been more than annoying to all of us”
