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Look at Spain-it pivoted to China. Rejected US threats of “cutting your throats”. Signed at least 2 trade deals on pork
and cherries (at the US expense as China cancelled U.S. pork shipments). Others are actively searching for new trading partners. What’s broken might never be possible to glue again
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China cancels 12,000 metric tons of US pork shipments
by Filip Timotija - 04/24/25 4:32 PM ET

China canceled 12,000 metric tons of United States pork shipments amid a high-stakes trade standoff between the superpowers, according to data released Thursday.

China, one of the biggest U.S. trading partners, axed 12,000 metric tons of U.S. pork orders, the data from the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) shows.

The move represents the biggest cancellation of pork orders since the COVID-19 pandemic disrupted supply chains and stalled economies around the world, Bloomberg News reported.

China, behind Mexico and Japan, was the U.S.’s third-biggest market for pork in 2024, importing some 475,000 metric tons valued at more than $1.1 billion.

China is the world’s biggest producer of pork, accounting for nearly 50 percent of global supply at around 57 million metric tons, according to the USDA. The U.S. was ranked third at 11 percent with 12 million metric tons.

President Trump shook the global trading system by imposing sweeping tariffs earlier this month on dozens of countries. He slapped a 145 percent tariff on Chinese goods coming into the U.S., prompting China to fire back with its own 125 percent duty.

China said Thursday that the U.S. is not engaged in talks to come up with a new trade deal, a characterization that Trump rejected later in the day.

“They had meetings this morning, and we’ve been meeting with China. And, so I think you have … as usual, I think you have your reporting wrong,” Trump told reporters Thursday.

After the tariff hikes, China inked two agricultural trade agreements with Spain, for pork and cherries, as Beijing looks to strengthen relations with European countries, Reuters reported.

U.S. pork imports are now facing a 172 percent tariff, the U.S. Meat Export Federation said, according to Bloomberg News.

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Back in Argentina. The government finally cancelled all regulations on currency trading. The US$ went DOWN (slightly, admittedly) as free market forces started to operate.
And because it has gone down everywhere, it went down here too.
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How are the prices in Buenos Aires now? When we visited in Nov 2023 everything was very cheap. Compared to Germany/France let alone Switzerland. Only was a bit annoying to operate with lots of cash again.
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Argie is right now back to expensive, on some items. Food and beverages are up. Lodging is cheap: $844 for a 22 day stay at an AIRBNB, in a centric location.
A taxi from the main airport to town is $50 (European cheap, Colombian expensive). A very basic trip to the supermarket (bread, two cans of beer, cereal, cheese and yogurt, a crackers and dulce de leche) is around $50 too.
It is a bit all over the place. But overall, it is a bit expensive. But more stable. It has been like this for over a year.
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Doesn't sound so cheap anymore except lodging. Then we were there only car rental was kind of expensive.
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If I were in charge of China I'd delay any tariff negotiations until August/September. Will be much easier when shortages hit American shops and small companies go bankrupt left and right. Unless of course Trump surrenders beforehand.
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Plus. The Chinese government could not care less about polls, and is not up for re-election until the end of the century.
Yep. Bite the bullet back home for about 6 months and then see how the USA comes crawling.
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UK and EU to defy Trump with ‘free and open trade’ declaration

BRUSSELS — Britain and the European Union are set to sign a formal declaration committing to “free and open trade” in defiance of Donald Trump’s tariff agenda.

A leaked draft seen by POLITICO promises a “new strategic partnership” between London and Brussels based on “maintaining global economic stability and our mutual commitment to free and open trade.”

It comes as Keir Starmer’s U.K. government is locked in negotiations with the Trump administration to try to get a carve-out from the U.S. president’s new tariffs.

The draft U.K.-EU agreement, dated April 25, is one of several being drawn up ahead of a May 19 summit, which is seen as a key moment in resetting post-Brexit relations.
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This was in the NY Times newsletter this morning. Pretty astounding stuff.
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Bessent continued: "Not only is it an unsustainable model harming itself, it is also harming the entire world. We want to help it change because we need rebalancing too. China can start by moving its economy away from its export overcapacity and towards supporting its domestic consumer demand. Such a shift will help global rebalancing that the world desperately needs."

China consumes more than it exports by % of GDP and has a massive domestic market...
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This is completely embarrassing. This guy has been in office for two seconds and the only thing he’s accomplished is ruining the US’s credibility on the world stage. Then he turns around and lectures China on their economic model, incorrectly describing how it functions since the Trump administration lives exclusively in fantasy land. He complains that China… sells things to other countries? What is even his point here? China obviously has far superior domestic production capabilities to the US. Maybe Trump and Scott should stop picking fights with other countries and just build some (expletive) factories here if they’re so pressed about it.
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China insists no tariff talks underway with Trump and Xi or top aides, despite U.S. claims
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China on Monday once again denied that it is in talks to resolve its tariff war with the U.S., after a series of statements by President Donald Trump and his aides suggesting trade negotiations were underway.

“Let me make it clear one more time that China and the U.S. are not engaged in any consultation or negotiation on tariffs,” Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Guo Jiakun said at a press conference.

Guo also appeared to reject Trump’s claim, in an interview with Time last week, that Chinese President Xi Jinping had called him.

“As far as I know, there have not been any calls between the two presidents recently,” the spokesman said.

The latest blanket denial was in line with Beijing’s hardline stance against Trump’s massive 145% tariffs on imports from China, a top supplier of U.S. goods.

Trump administration officials, including Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent, insist that the U.S. is better positioned to win a trade war than China is.

But American business owners and analysts are raising alarms that the effective trade embargo with China could soon result in major economic consequences, including higher prices, product shortages and store closures.

Against that backdrop — and Trump’s recent claim that his administration will be finished crafting new trade deals with numerous countries in as little as three or four weeks — some U.S. officials have expressed more openness toward a dialogue with Beijing.

“Every day we are in conversation with China,” Trump’s Secretary of Agriculture, Brooke Rollins, said Sunday on CNN.

When told that the Chinese deny this, Rollins said, “Well, according to our team in Washington, the conversations are ongoing regarding multiples of trade, multiples of the trade goods that are coming out and going in.”

“The bottom line with China is this: They need us more than we need them,” she said.

Asked on Sunday why China would deny that negotiations are underway, Bessent said, “Well, I think they’re playing to a different audience.”

Pressed to explain whether the talks are actually happening, he said, “We have a process in place. And again, I just believe these Chinese tariffs are unsustainable.”

Bessent predicted last week that a “de-escalation” with China was coming in the “very near future.”

On Monday morning, he pointed to that prospective de-escalation to help explain why he was not yet concerned that U.S. consumers could soon face empty store shelves.

“Not at present,” Bessent said on Fox News, when asked if he was concerned about “empty shelves.”

“We have some great retailers. I assume they preordered. I think we’ll see some elasticities and I think we’ll see replacements, and then we will see how quickly the Chinese want to de-escalate,” said Bessent.

In a separate interview Monday morning on CNBC’s “Squawk Box,” Bessent put the onus for that de-escalation on China, before saying he would not negotiate through the press.

China has consistently demanded that Trump, who has held up tariffs as both a powerful negotiating tool and a way to rake in government revenue, scrap his sweeping import taxes.

“If the U.S. really wants to resolve the problem … it should cancel all the unilateral measures on China,” a spokesman for the Chinese Ministry of Commerce said last week.

That statement, translated from Mandarin by CNBC, was itself a response to Trump’s claim on Thursday that U.S. and Chinese officials “had a meeting this morning.”

“We’ve been meeting with China,” Trump told reporters, while declining to specify who was meeting whom.

A day earlier, Trump said U.S. officials were “actively” talking with China.
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Port of Los Angeles shipments, a key hub for imports from China, expected to plunge 36% as Trump’s 145% China tariff takes effect
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President Trump's tariffs have sparked fears that US economic growth could slow materially in 2025. At this point, this sentiment has largely shown up in weak survey data, but one other indicator is already flashing warning signs.

Incoming shipments to the Port of Los Angeles are expected to be roughly 36% lower than the previous year in the week ending May 10.

The port is a key location for imports from China. Economists believe the pullback in expected shipping container arrivals is likely an early sign of slowing trade activity between the US and China as Trump's 145% tariff rate on China weighs on trade. It could also be an early sign of slowing economic growth to come.

Bank of America senior US economist Aditya Bhave wrote in a note to clients that the expected fall in shipment arrivals at the port over the next few weeks shows the likely end of businesses and consumers "front-loading" tariffs and the start of a "broader pullback" in China trade.

While other key indicators of an economic slowdown, like weekly filings for unemployment benefits, haven't ticked up yet, RSM chief economist Joe Brusuelas told Yahoo Finance he's been watching the activity at the Port of Los Angeles. Brusuelas noted that the decline in activity is one of the first signs that US economic growth is set to cool.

"In June, what that means is there'll be less goods on the shelves," Brusuelas said. "Less goods equals higher prices. At a time when inflation goes up, that means less disposable income, less demand."

The key question in the economic narrative has been when downbeat sentiment data from consumers and businesses could show up in actual growth data. Slower shipping rates are one reason EY chief economist Gregory Daco told Yahoo Finance he expects data to reflect weaker economic activity in the coming months.

"We're seeing cancellations in different ocean lines," Daco said. "We're seeing essentially a pullback in orders that are already being seen as of mid-April. So I would anticipate that we'll see that in the [economic growth] data over the next couple of months."

Broadly, economists are still debating just how much US economic growth will slow this year as the higher costs of goods from tariffs are expected to weigh on consumer spending. In a research note on Monday, JPMorgan Asset Management chief global strategist David Kelly wrote that without a quick resolution to the trade war, imports, exports, and inventories all look set to fall sharply.

"Consumers could slow purchases in the face of higher prices and lower inventories while companies could cut back on hiring, capital spending and travel and entertainment expenses, all dragging on demand," Kelly wrote. "Real GDP growth could be very slow, or even negative, over at least the first three quarters of 2025."
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