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Re: Covid-19 Updates & Info

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 1:48 am
by ti-amie

Re: Covid-19 Updates & Info

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 1:52 am
by ponchi101
I did find a I AM SHOCKED CASABLANCA gif. But it is two big.
Wonder who grifted from that. I mean, of the kids and Jared.

Re: Covid-19 Updates & Info

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 6:11 am
by dryrunguy
Sidebar: Something that is attracting a decent amount of local conversation here... Apparently, several reports indicate that vaccine candidates should abstain from consuming alcohol in the days leading up to and following the administration of COVID vaccination doses because alcohol lowers immunity and can significantly reduce vaccine effectiveness.

It's quite the topic of conversation around here. As you may know, rural Pennsylvania has astronomical rates of alcoholism, and for some, alcohol is far more important than preventing COVID.

Just mentioning it.

Re: Covid-19 Updates & Info

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 8:50 am
by Suliso
Really? Instinctively that doesn't make much sense to me, would like to see some proper study proving it.

Re: Covid-19 Updates & Info

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 10:34 am
by Deuce
Suliso wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 8:50 am Really? Instinctively that doesn't make much sense to me, would like to see some proper study proving it.
Alcohol has been long thought to have a negative effect on the immune system.
Just dug these up quickly...

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4590612/

https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/alcohol-covid

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Re: Covid-19 Updates & Info

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 10:49 am
by Deuce
It was one year ago today that the first official fatality of COVID-19 was recorded - a man in Wuhan, China.

And since then, the virus has spread as dramatically as it has rapidly, and grew quickly out of control all over the world.
It feels like we've been inhabiting a different planet for the past 10 months here.
What we had known as 'normal life' for the entirety of our respective existences seems like it happened a few lifetimes ago.
No-one could have imagined that what we're currently living would be our reality.

Re: Covid-19 Updates & Info

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 3:30 pm
by ponchi101
Deuce wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 10:49 am It was one year ago today that the first official fatality of COVID-19 was recorded - a man in Wuhan, China.

And since then, the virus has spread as dramatically as it has rapidly, and grew quickly out of control all over the world.
It feels like we've been inhabiting a different planet for the past 10 months here.
What we had known as 'normal life' for the entirety of our respective existences seems like it happened a few lifetimes ago.
No-one could have imagined that what we're currently living would be our reality.
I agree mostly with your post, except the bold part. After reading THE COMING PLAGUE, written in 1994, the immunology and viral experts of the world were clear that this was WHEN, not IF.
Remember that even "popular" culture foresaw this. Non-Fiction thrillers like Richard Preston's THE HOT ZONE, or films like Steven Soderbergh's CONTAGION made points about what could happen.
Were we warned? Debatable. Did this come completely out of nowhere? No. Some people saw it.

Re: Covid-19 Updates & Info

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 5:04 pm
by Suliso
A couple small things I'm wondering regarding vaccination...

- the first dose offers only partial protection. Suppose someone still gets ill two weeks after getting it. Does he/she gets the second dose anyway while they are ill?
- above it was described that few people got lucky and received the first dose of the vaccine well before "their time". But now what happens with the 2nd dose? Do they get that too in 3 weeks? Also what kind of proof of vaccination do people get in US?

Re: Covid-19 Updates & Info

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 5:21 pm
by ponchi101
Suliso wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 5:04 pm A couple small things I'm wondering regarding vaccination...

- the first dose offers only partial protection. Suppose someone still gets ill two weeks after getting it. Does he/she gets the second dose anyway while they are ill?
- above it was described that few people got lucky and received the first dose of the vaccine well before "their time". But now what happens with the 2nd dose? Do they get that too in 3 weeks? Also what kind of proof of vaccination do people get in US?
Yes.
And one thing that I would like to see. People should get proof of vaccination that is visible to others, if they want it. I would not mind wearing a plastic bracelet for one year, showing I got my shot.
Your points are all spot-on. I wonder if the governments have thought about that.

Re: Covid-19 Updates & Info

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 10:06 pm
by shtexas
Suliso wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 5:04 pm A couple small things I'm wondering regarding vaccination...

- the first dose offers only partial protection. Suppose someone still gets ill two weeks after getting it. Does he/she gets the second dose anyway while they are ill?
- above it was described that few people got lucky and received the first dose of the vaccine well before "their time". But now what happens with the 2nd dose? Do they get that too in 3 weeks? Also what kind of proof of vaccination do people get in US?
To the second point, the next appointment gets scheduled pretty much immediately. I know the grocery pharmacy near me will give you a number to call or weblink that you can use to schedule shot #2.

As to your first point, a scary thought.

Re: Covid-19 Updates & Info

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 10:09 pm
by shtexas
ponchi101 wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 5:21 pm
Suliso wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 5:04 pm A couple small things I'm wondering regarding vaccination...

- the first dose offers only partial protection. Suppose someone still gets ill two weeks after getting it. Does he/she gets the second dose anyway while they are ill?
- above it was described that few people got lucky and received the first dose of the vaccine well before "their time". But now what happens with the 2nd dose? Do they get that too in 3 weeks? Also what kind of proof of vaccination do people get in US?
Yes.
And one thing that I would like to see. People should get proof of vaccination that is visible to others, if they want it. I would not mind wearing a plastic bracelet for one year, showing I got my shot.
Your points are all spot-on. I wonder if the governments have thought about that.
The conservatives here would scream if they had to carry papers or wear a bracelet as proof.

Re: Covid-19 Updates & Info

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 10:55 pm
by ponchi101
Oh, sure. I can see them screaming about their freedom and other nonsense. I was talking about myself; I would not mind wearing it as way of proof that I have taken it.
Maybe they can wear it wrapped around their gun. You know, open carry?

Re: Covid-19 Updates & Info

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:32 am
by Suliso
I have a vaccination "passport" since I've been vaccinated as an adult against all kinds of tropical diseases few years ago. I assume my future covid vaccine will be added there as well. Not sure what percentage of people here or anywhere else do have such a thing.

Re: Covid-19 Updates & Info

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 11:22 am
by skatingfan
Suliso wrote: Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:32 am I have a vaccination "passport" since I've been vaccinated as an adult against all kinds of tropical diseases few years ago. I assume my future covid vaccine will be added there as well. Not sure what percentage of people here or anywhere else do have such a thing.
I had something similar when I was a kid, but it hasn't been updated since I was pretty young - my Mom probably still has it because she keeps everything.

Re: Covid-19 Updates & Info

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:03 pm
by ponchi101
I have one too, which is basically mandatory for the industry. And for sure my vaccination will go there (I will request it). But I don't walk around with it, as it is too valuable a document for me. Would be in real trouble if I lost it.
The Yellow Fever vaccination document that is universal has space to fill in other vaccines, too.
I guess we are in agreement. Just wait and see if any government implements something.