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Re: ATP Finals Turin 11/12 - 11/19 2023

Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2023 7:21 am
by ashkor87
some commentators are saying Medvedev will lose to ALcaraz because he wont try hard enough.. I find that mildly insulting - these are all professionals, they dont want to lose.. and in future, the result, whichever way it gos, will weigh on their minds. Medvedev would not want to give Alcaraz the confidence, since he may meet him soon, either here in the finals, or at the AO, hard to see him giving Alcaraz an easy pass.

Re: ATP Finals Turin 11/12 - 11/19 2023

Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2023 1:40 pm
by meganfernandez
ashkor87 wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 7:21 am some commentators are saying Medvedev will lose to ALcaraz because he wont try hard enough.. I find that mildly insulting - these are all professionals, they dont want to lose.. and in future, the result, whichever way it gos, will weigh on their minds. Medvedev would not want to give Alcaraz the confidence, since he may meet him soon, either here in the finals, or at the AO, hard to see him giving Alcaraz an easy pass.
Tend to agree, they are competitors first. Probably have a hard time turning it off. They are programmed to try to win every match or they wouldn't be so good. But I can see some circumstances where they might not try their absolute hardest in every situation, and that might lead to a loss. I think they can live with it if it's a strategic decision, and the opponent knows and it doesn't have the same psychological effect.

Re: ATP Finals Turin 11/12 - 11/19 2023

Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2023 1:46 pm
by Owendonovan
What would prompt these commentators to say such a thing? It's not like Medvedev is some notorious tanker of matches.

Re: ATP Finals Turin 11/12 - 11/19 2023

Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2023 1:52 pm
by ashkor87
Owendonovan wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 1:46 pm What would prompt these commentators to say such a thing? It's not like Medvedev is some notorious tanker of matches.
well, they have to say something out of the ordinary, I guess..! else nobody will read thir columns

Re: ATP Finals Turin 11/12 - 11/19 2023

Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2023 2:21 pm
by ptmcmahon
Owendonovan wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 1:46 pm What would prompt these commentators to say such a thing? It's not like Medvedev is some notorious tanker of matches.
Well we wouldn't be discussing them if they hadn't said it would we? ;)

Re: ATP Finals Turin 11/12 - 11/19 2023

Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2023 3:08 pm
by ptmcmahon
Alcaraz wins in two sets and wins group, Medvedev second.

Semis will be Sinner-Medvedev and Djokvoic-Alcaraz

Re: ATP Finals Turin 11/12 - 11/19 2023

Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2023 3:28 pm
by ashkor87
what is your guess? I certainly think Sinner will be in the finals and Djokovic will, too but I am a bit less confident of that.. maybe 65-35 and 55-45 respectively..

Re: ATP Finals Turin 11/12 - 11/19 2023

Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2023 3:41 pm
by meganfernandez
ashkor87 wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 3:28 pm what is your guess? I certainly think Sinner will be in the finals and Djokovic will, too but I am a bit less confident of that.. maybe 65-35 and 55-45 respectively..
Sinner Alcaraz

Re: ATP Finals Turin 11/12 - 11/19 2023

Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2023 3:45 pm
by ashkor87
meganfernandez wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 3:41 pm
ashkor87 wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 3:28 pm what is your guess? I certainly think Sinner will be in the finals and Djokovic will, too but I am a bit less confident of that.. maybe 65-35 and 55-45 respectively..
Sinner Alcaraz
that would be a preview of the future!

Re: ATP Finals Turin 11/12 - 11/19 2023

Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2023 10:14 pm
by ti-amie
Saturday, November 18, 2023 Day 7

Centre Court Starts At 12:00 Noon


SF
(5) Marcel Granollers/Horacio Zeballos VS (3) Rohan Bopanna/Matthew Ebden
Not Before 2:30 Pm
SF
(4) Jannik Sinner VS (3) Daniil Medvedev
Not Before 6:30 Pm
SF
(6) Rajeev Ram/Joe Salisbury VS (4) Santiago Gonzalez/Edouard Roger-Vasselin
Not Before 9:00 Pm
SF
(2) Carlos Alcaraz VS (1) Novak Djokovic

Re: ATP Finals Turin 11/12 - 11/19 2023

Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2023 10:15 pm
by ti-amie

Re: ATP Finals Turin 11/12 - 11/19 2023

Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2023 5:48 pm
by ashkor87
Sinner really seems to have broken through...he has now won 6 matches in a row against the top 5....

Re: ATP Finals Turin 11/12 - 11/19 2023

Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2023 9:41 pm
by Suliso
Round two of Sinner vs Djokovic was a conventional choice and this time the right one as well. After the first game where Alcaraz had two bp's he didn't stand a chance.

Re: ATP Finals Turin 11/12 - 11/19 2023

Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2023 9:42 pm
by Suliso
Who'll win the final now? I think it's pretty close, but small edge to the old guy. He just knows how to bring these things home.

Re: ATP Finals Turin 11/12 - 11/19 2023

Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2023 9:55 pm
by ti-amie
Sunday, November 19, 2023 Day 8

Centre Court Starts At 3:00 Pm


F
(5) Marcel Granollers/Horacio Zeballos VS (6) Rajeev Ram/Joe Salisbury
Not Before 6:00 Pm
F
(4) Jannik Sinner VS (1) Novak Djokovic