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ti-amie I think I'm going to continue what I started for Wimbledon for all the Grand Slams. There will be separate threads for the men's and women's singles draws. The juniors and doubles will continue to have their own thread as will the Qualifying Tournament itself once it gets underway.
I'm kind of working this out as I go along so any suggestions are welcome.
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ponchi101 I like it. So, keep on going
by ashkor87 The USO is the USO, needs to be thought of separately from the other tournaments on the way.. also, goign by last year, the court may be significantly faster than whet we saw at IW and Miami, and probably faster than Washington, Cincy etc..
so, on the mens side, I would look for Djokovic to be favorite, the slightly faster court and the heat will will favor him over players like Alcaraz.. Medvedev will certainly bounce back, he did better even at W than I expected.. Sinner will also do better than, say, Rublev, certainly better than Zverev at the USO..
On the women's side, I am inclined to think Rybakina really needs a slower court to do well, she looked a bit slow of foot at W, so favorite would be Swiatek again.. followed by Rybakina, Sabalenka, Jabeur and Bencic.. Vondrousova will do better on the slower courts leading up to the USO, I expect, as will Samsonova.. Alexandrova will do well too at the USO. As usual (and I dont expect anyone here to agree with me), I dont expect much from Pegula, Gauff etc at the USO..nor Badosa, Sakkari and all the favorites of last year.. Muchova will be worth looking out for... she could do well, though she was a bit disapponting at W..
by ponchi101 Muchova. She took a nasty fall in the second set of her 1R match. Her loss was due to injury, not her form. So, a bit of an unknown quantity there.
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nelslus ponchi101 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 3:39 pm
Muchova. She took a nasty fall in the second set of her 1R match. Her loss was due to injury, not her form. So, a bit of an unknown quantity there.
Albeit, Muchova also had the bad luck of being drawn to play the previous year's Wimbledon quarterfinalist, Jule Niemeier, in R1. The score was 6-4, 5-7, 6-1. Of course, I hope Muchova has fully recovered from her injury.
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ti-amie July 26, 2023 Tennis News, Tennis Tournaments, US Open Tennis
US Open to use ‘video review technology’ for 2023 tournament
The US Open have announced that they will be utilising video reviews for the tournament this year in a bid to help aid the chair umpires when there are disputes.
Video reviews have previously been used at other tennis events including the Next Gen Finals and the ATP Cup, but have not yet become a mainstay in the sport.
However, it seems that the New York major are looking to take that step with the technology set to be used on five of the courts at this year’s tournament.
The USTA (United States Tennis Association) confirmed that the ‘video review technology will be utilised for all Main Draw matches played on Arthur Ashe Stadium, Louis Armstrong Stadium, Grandstand, Court No.5 and Court No.17’.
The US Open have often been the Grand Slam leader in terms of using technology, with electronic line calling being brought in by the event in 2020 to reduce staff due to Covid-19 restrictions.
This is something that has continued at the final major of the year and has since been brought into use at the Australian Open as well.
On top of that, the ATP announced earlier this year that electronic line calling would be used for all of their events from 2025.
US Open Video Reviews – What are they used for?
So, we know that the technology will be used at the tournament this year, but when will it actually be used?
We, at Tennishead, have got that covered for you:
US Open Video Technology Reviewable calls
Not-up – To check if the ball has bounced more than once prior to contact (more than twice for wheelchair tennis).
Foul shot – When a player carries the ball on their racket, contacts the ball before it crosses the net or the player’s racket touches the ball while not under the control of the player.
Touch – When the ball touches the player or anything he is wearing (except the racket obviously!) or when the player touches the net when the ball is in play.
Invasion – When a player touches his opponent’s part of the court with any part of his body or racket while the ball is in play.
Through – When the ball passes through the net instead of over the net.
Hindrance – For any decision whether a point should be awarded or replayed, most commonly used when a call is corrected from out to in and whether the player had a play on the ball.
Original call stands – When a challenge to a line call has properly been made and the line review system is unable to make a determination, the chair umpire may review the call for clear evidence that confirms or overturns the call on the court.
Foot faults – To check whether a player’s foot has crossed the appropriate lines when serving.
Scoring error – To ensure that the score is as it should be.
We will see the technology used for these rules next month, with the US Open beginning on Monday 28th August.
https://tennishead.net/us-open-to-use-v ... ournament/
by ti-amie OFFICIAL DRAWS
Singles
Qualifying: Monday 21 August at 2:00 pm
Main Draw: Thursday, 24 August at 12:00 pm
Doubles - entry deadline 12:00 pm, Friday 18 August
Sunday, 27 August at 12:00 pm
Mixed Doubles - entry deadline 4:00 pm, Monday 28 August
Monday, 28 August at 6:00 pm
by ashkor87 Kyrgios has pulled out...
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meganfernandez ti-amie wrote:I think I'm going to continue what I started for Wimbledon for all the Grand Slams. There will be separate threads for the men's and women's singles draws. The juniors and doubles will continue to have their own thread as will the Qualifying Tournament itself once it gets underway.
I'm kind of working this out as I go along so any suggestions are welcome.
Works for me
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by ponchi101 Players in trouble for the USO:
Rublev
Felix
Berrettini
Garcia.
I say they would do well to play next week.
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ashkor87 ponchi101 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 16, 2023 3:21 am
Players in trouble for the USO:
Rublev
Felix
Berrettini
Garcia.
add Krejcikova Brady and Caro.. they need more matches..
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meganfernandez ashkor87 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 16, 2023 6:00 am
ponchi101 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 16, 2023 3:21 am
Players in trouble for the USO:
Rublev
Felix
Berrettini
Garcia.
add Krejcikova Brady and Caro.. they need more matches..
Svitolina needs to be healthy. I would give her a decent shot if she's healthy.
by ponchi101 Brady and Caro are on their way back. A 2R showing will be enough.
The players I listed are highly ranked players that are not playing well at all at the moment. Garcia, for example, just dropped 1000 points (or is it 900) by losing her first match at Cincy. So she has a ton of points to defend.
Matteo is a top player, as are Felix and Rublev. They should not be losing that early, that frequently. Ergo, my statement.
Krejcikova has been very silent, and I don't think even her claims to be, at this moment, any Big number. So, I would say that anything she does is gravy.
by skatingfan Felix actually doesn't have many points to defend at the US Open - he lost 2nd round last year. Garcia dropped 860 points.
by Fastbackss The wild card awards will be a fun subject, as usual.
Isner/venus/Caro predictable. Some of the others not as much
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meganfernandez ponchi101 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 16, 2023 3:26 pm
Brady and Caro are on their way back. A 2R showing will be enough.
The players I listed are highly ranked players that are not playing well at all at the moment. Garcia, for example, just dropped 1000 points (or is it 900) by losing her first match at Cincy. So she has a ton of points to defend.
Matteo is a top player, as are Felix and Rublev. They should not be losing that early, that frequently. Ergo, my statement.
Krejcikova has been very silent, and I don't think even her claims to be, at this moment, any Big number. So, I would say that anything she does is gravy.
And Garcia has semi points to defend in NY, too. About to take a tumble.
Krejcikova's purpose now is to keep Iga humble. She'll win Ostrava!!!!! Sad because she has a great game. So smooth. Love to watch her play. She should win more matches.
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meganfernandez Fastbackss wrote: ↑Wed Aug 16, 2023 4:27 pm
The wild card awards will be a fun subject, as usual.
Isner/venus/Caro predictable. Some of the others not as much
WCs just announced:
Isner
Alex Michelsen (finaled Newport)
Michael Mmoh
Steven Johnson
Ethan Quinn (NCAA singles champion)
Learner Tien (USTA 18s national champion)
Benjamin Bonzi (Frech Open reciprocal)
Rinky Hijikata (Aussie reciprocal)
Qualifying WCs:
Brandon Hold
Zachary Svajda
Trevor Svajda (Zachary's brother, USTA 18s runner-up)
Paterick Kypson
Eliot Spizzirri
Tristan Boyer
Aidan Mayo
Martin Damm
Darwin Blanch
by ponchi101 Maybe a good place for Isner to announce retirement? His style of play is one that is not conducive to a comeback.
by meganfernandez Women's WCs:
Venus
Wozniacki
Ashlyn Krueger
Robin Montgomery
Kayla Day (US Open Wild Card Challenge winner)
Clervie Ngounoue (USTA 18s champion)
Fiona Ferro (French Open reciprocal)
Storm Hunter (Aussie reciprocal)
Quali WCs weren't in the press release.
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meganfernandez ponchi101 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 16, 2023 4:54 pm
Maybe a good place for Isner to announce retirement? His style of play is one that is not conducive to a comeback.
Maybe, but it can also get lost at a Slam. Maybe he'd do it at Winston-Slam, Atlanta or Houston next year. I don't know... More media attention at the Open, of course. We'll have to hear about the Wimbledon Mahut match ad nauseum.
by meganfernandez
Did he hurt his knee proposing?
by ponchi101 As little as two years ago, Canadian tennis was looking so strong. Felix and Dennis were climbing up the rankings, Leylah and Bianca were top names. Bouchard had faded but was still making news. There was a good supporting cast.
It can go away so fast.
Speaking of Canadian tennis. I say Milos deserves a WC for the USO. He was the top Canadian for quiet a while. Or can he get in via PR?
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skatingfan ponchi101 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 16, 2023 5:08 pm
As little as two years ago, Canadian tennis was looking so strong. Felix and Dennis were climbing up the rankings, Leylah and Bianca were top names. Bouchard had faded but was still making news. There was a good supporting cast.
It can go away so fast.
Speaking of Canadian tennis. I say Milos deserves a WC for the USO. He was the top Canadian for quiet a while. Or can he get in via PR?
Raonic is on the entry list that Ti posted, and yes, I was thinking that this summer that Canadian tennis is now returning to the wilderness that is more familiar to us.
by JTContinental Opelka has withdrawn on the men’s side
Shuai Zhang has withdrawn in the women’s side
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meganfernandez ponchi101 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 16, 2023 5:08 pm
As little as two years ago, Canadian tennis was looking so strong. Felix and Dennis were climbing up the rankings, Leylah and Bianca were top names. Bouchard had faded but was still making news. There was a good supporting cast.
It can go away so fast.
Speaking of Canadian tennis. I say Milos deserves a WC for the USO. He was the top Canadian for quiet a while. Or can he get in via PR?
What could have been... Raonic and Bouchard, too.
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meganfernandez JTContinental wrote: ↑Wed Aug 16, 2023 6:14 pm
Opelka has withdrawn on the men’s side
Shuai Zhang has withdrawn in the women’s side
Sad about Shuai Zhang. I hope she is okay. Wonder why she isn't playing doubles? She and Stosur were #1 in the world, I think.
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ponchi101 ponchi101 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 16, 2023 3:21 am
Players in trouble for the USO:
Rublev
Felix
Berrettini
Garcia.
I say they would do well to play next week.
Ruud, Rune?
Man, tough tournament for players with names that start with RU.
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meganfernandez ponchi101 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 16, 2023 10:57 pm
ponchi101 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 16, 2023 3:21 am
Players in trouble for the USO:
Rublev
Felix
Berrettini
Garcia.
I say they would do well to play next week.
Ruud, Rune?
Man, tough tournament for players with names that start with RU.
Someone do a wellness check on Ruusuvuori
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nelslus meganfernandez wrote: ↑Wed Aug 16, 2023 6:52 pm
JTContinental wrote: ↑Wed Aug 16, 2023 6:14 pm
Opelka has withdrawn on the men’s side
Shuai Zhang has withdrawn in the women’s side
Sad about Shuai Zhang. I hope she is okay. Wonder why she isn't playing doubles? She and Stosur were #1 in the world, I think.
She's had some good moments in doubles this year. She and Dolehide made the SF's at Wimbledon- at which point they lost 1 & 1 to Mertens and Sanders. Zhang also won a tournament in Abu Dhabi with Stefani, and the SF's with Olmos at Qatar. Other than that, she's also had plenty of bad doubled losses, in addition to a pretty bad year in singles.
If I recall this correctly, Stosur had previously encouraged Zhang to not quit tennis, during another bad patch she'd been having- and, I believe, before her and Stosur had such great results. So, she's been down before- and who knows what's going on with her currently- physically, mentally, medically, etc.? Worst case scenario- I hope she can be very proud of her career and the great results she has had. $9,971,239 earned in her career. Two doubles Slam titles (and in doubles, a Wimbledon final with Mertens, and some other Slam SF and QF doubles results), and QF results in singles at the Australian Open and Wimbledon. (She's also 34, BTW.)
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ptmcmahon skatingfan wrote: ↑Wed Aug 16, 2023 5:12 pm
ponchi101 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 16, 2023 5:08 pm
As little as two years ago, Canadian tennis was looking so strong. Felix and Dennis were climbing up the rankings, Leylah and Bianca were top names. Bouchard had faded but was still making news. There was a good supporting cast.
It can go away so fast.
Speaking of Canadian tennis. I say Milos deserves a WC for the USO. He was the top Canadian for quiet a while. Or can he get in via PR?
Raonic is on the entry list that Ti posted, and yes, I was thinking that this summer that Canadian tennis is now returning to the wilderness that is more familiar to us.
I'm going to have to re-incorporate my day 1 SP rule of finding a Canadian to pick against!
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ashkor87 ponchi101 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 16, 2023 3:26 pm
Brady and Caro are on their way back. A 2R showing will be enough.
The players I listed are highly ranked players that are not playing well at all at the moment. Garcia, for example, just dropped 1000 points (or is it 900) by losing her first match at Cincy. So she has a ton of points to defend.
Matteo is a top player, as are Felix and Rublev. They should not be losing that early, that frequently. Ergo, my statement.
Krejcikova has been very silent, and I don't think even her claims to be, at this moment, any Big number. So, I would say that anything she does is gravy.
Oh, ok. I was looking at it more from the POV of who needs more match practice - a good player who is not hitting their stride yet in this leg of the season.
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meganfernandez nelslus wrote: ↑Thu Aug 17, 2023 1:27 am
meganfernandez wrote: ↑Wed Aug 16, 2023 6:52 pm
JTContinental wrote: ↑Wed Aug 16, 2023 6:14 pm
Opelka has withdrawn on the men’s side
Shuai Zhang has withdrawn in the women’s side
Sad about Shuai Zhang. I hope she is okay. Wonder why she isn't playing doubles? She and Stosur were #1 in the world, I think.
She's had some good moments in doubles this year. She and Dolehide made the SF's at Wimbledon- at which point they lost 1 & 1 to Mertens and Sanders. Zhang also won a tournament in Abu Dhabi with Stefani, and the SF's with Olmos at Qatar. Other than that, she's also had plenty of bad doubled losses, in addition to a pretty bad year in singles.
If I recall this correctly, Stosur had previously encouraged Zhang to not quit tennis, during another bad patch she'd been having- and, I believe, before her and Stosur had such great results. So, she's been down before- and who knows what's going on with her currently- physically, mentally, medically, etc.? Worst case scenario- I hope she can be very proud of her career and the great results she has had. $9,971,239 earned in her career. Two doubles Slam titles (and in doubles, a Wimbledon final with Mertens, and some other Slam SF and QF doubles results), and QF results in singles at the Australian Open and Wimbledon. (She's also 34, BTW.)
Thanks for this. She has had a great career. I just hope it doesn't end like this.
by jazzyg I don't put much stock in Rublev losing early at both 1000s. He's still a threat at the U.S. Open.
The others I agree with.
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But no change to the #usopen schedule this year
This from tournament director Stacey Allaster:
by ashkor87 Also announced on Wednesday, nine Americans received wild cards into the US Open qualifying draw: Liv Hovde, Katrina Scott, Makenna Jones, McCartney Kessler, Mary Stoiana, Valerie Glozman, Fiona Crawley, Chloe Beck and Katherine Hui.
by JTContinental Cary McNally and RBA are out
by ashkor87 Probabilities of win:
Men
Djokovic 40%
Alcaraz 40%
Sinner 10
Medvedev 8
Field 2
Women
Rybakina 30%
Swiatek 30
Sabalenka 15
Jabeur 10
Muchova 10
Field 5
Your estimates?
by skatingfan Rybakina's shoulder is in a bad way - I don't think she'll be a factor in New York.
by ponchi101 You are giving THE FIELD more of a chance than Coco?
And the field at 5% is way too low.
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meganfernandez ashkor87 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 20, 2023 1:02 am
Probabilities of win:
Men
Djokovic 40%
Alcaraz 40%
Sinner 10
Medvedev 8
Field 2
Women
Rybakina 30%
Swiatek 30
Sabalenka 15
Jabeur 10
Muchova 10
Field 5
Your estimates?
MEN
Djokovic 49%
Alcaraz 48%
Field 3%
WOMEN
Iga 40%
Coco 35%
Field 15%
Sabalenka 6%
Pegula 4%
by ashkor87 So no Sinner and no Rybakina? Of course 'field' covers them all but I think Rybakina has a better chance than Sabalenka for sure..and Coco at 35 is a bit too high..she hasn't quite completed her moulting yet...maybe next year at the AO..
by jazzyg I've been too busy to watch enough this summer to put percentages on it, but I believe Djokovic is a bigger favorite than the earlier estimates based on what I've seen from Cincinnati. Of course after tomorrow I might change my mind.
I have no idea about the women because none of them are playing great. Gauff has been better than anyone this summer, but I do not see her as the favorite. Sabalenka is moving worse than she did in the first few months of the year. Swiatek is making too many errors on routine balls. Pegula, as much as I like her game, never will be close to being the favorite at any slam she plays. Jabeur got hurt in Cincinnati and clearly has closing problems in finals even when she is healthy. As was mentioned above, Rybakina is not healthy. I'll try to catch Muchova tomorrow to see her level, but i question her ability to stay healthy for seven matches on hard courts at a slam.
Those are the names I could see winning it, but there are probably a dozen other players who could do it if Swiatek and Sabalenka go out early, which is not inconceivable. I really have no feel for what will happen.
by ashkor87 All valid points...
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ashkor87 ponchi101 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 20, 2023 2:23 am
You are giving THE FIELD more of a chance than Coco?
I dont think Coco's transformation is complete yet.. next year maybe..
as for the field, I would say 0% but there are literalists here who think there is no such thing.. so I said 5%.. Field includes Coco for me.
by ashkor87 I am looking for good things from Parks, Andreeva, Eubanks and Michelsen.. among the outliers..
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ashkor87 skatingfan wrote: ↑Sun Aug 20, 2023 1:26 am
Rybakina's shoulder is in a bad way
not quite sure about that.. I think she was just resting it before the USO..
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meganfernandez ashkor87 wrote:So no Sinner and no Rybakina? Of course 'field' covers them all but I think Rybakina has a better chance than Sabalenka for sure..and Coco at 35 is a bit too high..she hasn't quite completed her moulting yet...maybe next year at the AO..
Rybakina’s shoulder appears to be a problem, and she is inconsistent. She’s in the field.
Same with Sinner for me. No injury but far from Alcaraz and Novak in B5.
Going big with Coco on account of BG and beating Iga and winning 11 of 12 matches since Wimbledon (probably 12 of 13 after Sunday)
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JTContinental skatingfan wrote: ↑Sun Aug 20, 2023 1:26 am
Rybakina's shoulder is in a bad way - I don't think she'll be a factor in New York.
I have my doubts about Jabeur, too. She can't stay healthy.
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meganfernandez JTContinental wrote: ↑Sun Aug 20, 2023 8:28 am
skatingfan wrote: ↑Sun Aug 20, 2023 1:26 am
Rybakina's shoulder is in a bad way - I don't think she'll be a factor in New York.
I have my doubts about Jabeur, too. She can't stay healthy.
Same, and the scar tissue from Wimbledon... not sure she will ever get over it in the window she has. I watched the match with someone I consider a tennis expert - regular person, but way smarter about tennis than I am - and he immediately said, "We'll never see her again." He meant she will never win big again. I laughted it off - he's bombastic like that - but he might be right. She won't play at this top level forever. If she isn't at her absolute best mentally, forget it.
by ponchi101 Would seem right, but there have been exceptions. Lendl lost his first four finals. Murray too. Goran and Novotna failed 3 and 2 times at W before winning.
The problem with Jabeur is that she lost two finals to players ranked below her. Rybakina is now a "force" because of that Wimbledon, and she has added a couple of 1000's; we have yet to anoint Vondrousova in the same fashion because she has won little else. So Ons is going to need some very good breaks.
I would still not write her off, though.
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meganfernandez ponchi101 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 20, 2023 5:05 pm
Would seem right, but there have been exceptions. Lendl lost his first four finals. Murray too. Goran and Novotna failed 3 and 2 times at W before winning.
The problem with Jabeur is that she lost two finals to players ranked below her. Rybakina is now a "force" because of that Wimbledon, and she has added a couple of 1000's; we have yet to anoint Vondrousova in the same fashion because she has won little else. So Ons is going to need some very good breaks.
I would still not write her off, though.
It's not just that she has lost 3 finals. She shouldn't feel bad about the first two. The last one could haunt her, and she turns 29 next week. She might not have time to get over it. Careers are longer, but not many women are playing their best tennis at 33, 34, are they? We'll see.
by ponchi101 Coco has gone W-Qf (losing to the eventual winner)-W this summer.
No way she is not one of the favorites.
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meganfernandez ponchi101 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 20, 2023 7:41 pm
Coco has gone W-Qf (losing to the eventual winner)-W this summer.
No way she is not one of the favorites.
i think Coco should be the second favorite, and will be the 2nd betting favorite, not far behind Iga. A little ahead of Sabalenka. Coco was 12/1 for the US Open before the Cincy final ended. Pretty low.
by jazzyg Gauff had six double faults and zero aces today.
Before she is in the top three favorites of a slam (or rather, before she should be), she needs to actually beat someone good at a slam. The way she's playing now, she appears immune to an upset, but beating Swiatek when Swiatek is spraying the ball all over the court in Cincinnati doesn't do it for me. Yet.
by JTContinental To be fair, 5 of those double were in her first couple of service games, and then she worked it out. Neither player was at their best today--they both looked pretty worn out, so a week of rest and practice will do them good.
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ptmcmahon ashkor87 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 20, 2023 4:21 am
ponchi101 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 20, 2023 2:23 am
You are giving THE FIELD more of a chance than Coco?
I dont think Coco's transformation is complete yet.. next year maybe..
as for the field, I would say 0% but there are literalists here who think there is no such thing.. so I said 5%.. Field includes Coco for me.
And we notice!
Of course if you had given Coco a 0% chance of winning a lot of people would have said something
by meganfernandez Kasatkina is on ESPN mic'd during practice, She says the courts are a lot slower than Cincy. She is practicing on Ashe and she said it's her first "appearance" on the court, ever! Has never played or practiced there.
Medvedev was mic'd earlier and didn't mention court speed but said the balls and court are very different and he loves the way the NY courts are playing, just what he likes.
We need a report on outer courts. Both of them were on Ashe.
by ponchi101 Slower than Cincy? Expect several marathons and several retirements. And matches with 1:3 Winners/Unforced errors ratios.
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mick1303 ponchi101 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 20, 2023 5:05 pm
Would seem right, but there have been exceptions. Lendl lost his first four finals. Murray too. Goran and Novotna failed 3 and 2 times at W before winning.
The problem with Jabeur is that she lost two finals to players ranked below her. Rybakina is now a "force" because of that Wimbledon, and she has added a couple of 1000's; we have yet to anoint Vondrousova in the same fashion because she has won little else. So Ons is going to need some very good breaks.
I would still not write her off, though.
Wimbledon was last year. I think this year Rybakina's most strong points are top-tier win-loss record (40-12 after Canada) and especially 3-0 against Swiatek this year.
by ashkor87 from the couple of qualies I can see on youtube, the court looks medium-paced, a tad slower than cleveland. that will suit folks like Alcaraz, Rybakina - and not Coco, Sinner etc. But not drastic enough to make too much difference, I think.
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by JTContinental Badosa and Andreescu are out
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meganfernandez JTContinental wrote:Badosa and Andreescu are out
They get R1 prize money, right?
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by JTContinental Half of it, I think and the LL gets the other half
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ashkor87 meganfernandez wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2023 3:08 am
JTContinental wrote:Badosa and Andreescu are out
They get R1 prize money, right?
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Do they get the gift box?!
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skatingfan ashkor87 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2023 3:25 am
Do they get the gift box?!
That was only for the Americans.
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meganfernandez ashkor87 wrote:meganfernandez wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2023 3:08 am
JTContinental wrote:Badosa and Andreescu are out
They get R1 prize money, right?
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Do they get the gift box?!
Haha!! But only Americans got it.
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by ti-amie I can't believe that Grounds Passes cost more than $200 now and are almost always resale tickets.
It's why so many people showed up this week for Qualies and to watch practice sessions.
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meganfernandez ti-amie wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2023 10:00 pm
I can't believe that Grounds Passes cost more than $200 now and are almost always resale tickets.
It's why so many people showed up this week for Qualies and to watch practice sessions.
Horrendous. Could have gone to the Cincy quarters for $50 and that includes a seat on Center Court.
by ti-amie I looked up what it costs to go to the Aus Open. What a huge difference. I think grounds passes were still under $100 when I went two or three years ago.
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meganfernandez ti-amie wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2023 10:20 pm
I looked up what it costs to go to the Aus Open. What a huge difference. I think grounds passes were still under $100 when I went two or three years ago.
I paid $40 for a seat on the Bullring (and grounds pass) at the French Open in 2016.
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skatingfan ti-amie wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2023 10:00 pm
I can't believe that Grounds Passes cost more than $200 now and are almost always resale tickets.
It's why so many people showed up this week for Qualies and to watch practice sessions.
I just checked, and ground passes for tomorrow are going for $349.50.
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meganfernandez skatingfan wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 12:32 am
ti-amie wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2023 10:00 pm
I can't believe that Grounds Passes cost more than $200 now and are almost always resale tickets.
It's why so many people showed up this week for Qualies and to watch practice sessions.
I just checked, and ground passes for tomorrow are going for $349.50.
Is that at the box office, or are the only available by resale? I used to work for a charter-air company in Indianapolis. For $350, we flew to the US Open for the day and included the ticket and transportation! This is outrageous.
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skatingfan meganfernandez wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 1:09 am
Is that at the box office, or are the only available by resale? I used to work for a charter-air company in Indianapolis. For $350, we flew to the US Open for the day and included the ticket and transportation! This is outrageous.
Those were resale, but that's all that's available. Actually it would be cheaper - more in the $250 range - to buy resale tickets for Arthur Ashe, and then watch whatever match you wanted to. There were no tickets available in the upper levels of Arthur Ashe that weren't resale. I checked Seat Geek and there are Ground Passes for the whole event going for more than $30k.
by JTContinental Kei Nishikori is out with yet another knee injury
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meganfernandez JTContinental wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 1:35 am
Kei Nishikori is out with yet another knee injury
AI could have generated this press release a week ago
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ashkor87 meganfernandez wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 1:38 am
JTContinental wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 1:35 am
Kei Nishikori is out with yet another knee injury
AI could have generated this press release a week ago
He he true..Badosa too
by ashkor87 Court looks quite fast..comparable to last year...watching Swiatek on Ashe
by jazzyg Everyone there is saying the courts are the slowest of the hard court summer.
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ashkor87 jazzyg wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 5:52 pm
Everyone there is saying the courts are the slowest of the hard court summer.
Very strange!!
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ti-amie 
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meganfernandez ashkor87 wrote:jazzyg wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 5:52 pm
Everyone there is saying the courts are the slowest of the hard court summer.
Very strange!!
I heard slowest of all the Slams. Why is the USTA slowing down courts? It doesn’t help American players and we need shorter matches (ie, shorter rallies). This should be a fast surface.
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ti-amie Another illness report...
r/tennis
•Posted by
u/jovanmilic97
1 hour ago
Eva Lys after her loss in USO R2 speaks about her sudden illness: "I had trouble breathing deeply, my lungs burned a lot, especially during the long rallies. The physio tried to relax my diaphragm to get more air into the lungs. The doctor gave me something for my nose, but that didn't help much."
Link is in German
https://www.bild.de/sport/mehr-sport/te ... .bild.html
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meganfernandez ti-amie wrote:Another illness report...
r/tennis
•Posted by
u/jovanmilic97
1 hour ago
Eva Lys after her loss in USO R2 speaks about her sudden illness: "I had trouble breathing deeply, my lungs burned a lot, especially during the long rallies. The physio tried to relax my diaphragm to get more air into the lungs. The doctor gave me something for my nose, but that didn't help much."
Link is in German
https://www.bild.de/sport/mehr-sport/te ... .bild.html
I guess no one is getting tested for COVID?
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by ponchi101 There are no mandates any more, are they? So, even if you were to test positive on (let's say) Thursday and your next match would be Saturday, what could the USTA do? Especially if you were asymptomatic.
by ponchi101 That one looks troublesome. Hope it is not.
by meganfernandez so masks DO work?
by ponchi101 For those that say that Novak always gets shortchanged.
His DAY MATCH, after his NIGHT five setter yesterday, was moved to the night session tomorrow. First shift, she he can rest a bit longer but then will not have to wait for the women's match to finish.
Nice.
by meganfernandez Has anyone heard Carillo calling matches? She is calling some but I can’t find the replays. She called something - maybe Coco - with Petkovic and Carlos-Harris with Arias. I don’t think they are on the ESPN main feed, though. I can’t cue up ESPN replays.
by ashkor87 QZ vs Jabeur is an jnteresting match-up..I would think this is where J gets stopped...
Cirstea very impressive against Bencic..how far can she go?
My wife and I were thinking Cirstea looks a bit like some Indians we know..wonder if she has any Romany blood..
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jazzyg meganfernandez wrote: ↑Mon Sep 04, 2023 3:03 am
Has anyone heard Carillo calling matches? She is calling some but I can’t find the replays. She called something - maybe Coco - with Petkovic and Carlos-Harris with Arias. I don’t think they are on the ESPN main feed, though. I can’t cue up ESPN replays.
She has been calling matches on the DirecTV extra channels, which is probably the same announcers as for the ESPN+ feed. She was on Gauff-Wozniacki today with Lindsay Davenport.
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meganfernandez jazzyg wrote:meganfernandez wrote: ↑Mon Sep 04, 2023 3:03 am
Has anyone heard Carillo calling matches? She is calling some but I can’t find the replays. She called something - maybe Coco - with Petkovic and Carlos-Harris with Arias. I don’t think they are on the ESPN main feed, though. I can’t cue up ESPN replays.
She has been calling matches on the DirecTV extra channels, which is probably the same announcers as for the ESPN+ feed. She was on Gauff-Wozniacki today with Lindsay Davenport.
I found some. They are on ESPN3 but not ESPN+. She also did Pegula-Giorgi with Petkovic and Carlos-Harris with Arias.
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by ti-amie I guess no one wore a visor during Carlitos/Harris match.
I'll see myself out.
by Fastbackss I haven't looked for why the Styrcova/Vondrousova team withdrew from doubles, but if it is because of V's singles - that REALLY sucks for Barb
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skatingfan Fastbackss wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2023 1:14 am
I haven't looked for why the Styrcova/Vondrousova team withdrew from doubles, but if it is because of V's singles - that REALLY sucks for Barb
Vondrousova was having shoulder problems in her singles match, so I'm assuming that it was precautionary.
by ashkor87 Have conditions been hotter/more humid than normal ? Medvedev was saying it was almost impossible to play, and even Pegula looked like she was wilting.. I am half the globe away so I cant tell.. someone who has actually been to the matches can say better..?
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FredX ashkor87 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2023 10:17 am
Have conditions been hotter/more humid than normal ? Medvedev was saying it was almost impossible to play, and even Pegula looked like she was wilting.. I am half the globe away so I cant tell.. someone who has actually been to the matches can say better..?
Yes, a heat wave rolled in the last two days. There's a heat advisory in effect today - I would expect them to have the roofs closed and the AC pumping.
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nelslus .....I'll soon be heading out today to NYC for the Open. YAY HEAT!!!! Will be seeing the tennis starting tomorrow through Saturday, flying back to Chicago on Sunday. AND, of course, a few days ago- a Facebook friend posted about their recent horror story with Southwest Airlines (....three guesses what airline I'll be on for this round trip).
My first time on a plane since COVID- and I'm actually a bit scared- not of flying- I do love flying. Nevertheless, health permitting- I am planning on having a splendid time. I've got my masks ready.
AND- usually before I go on any trips, I try to remember to check in here to see if my "today" pick has defaulted. WELL- I only have one choice for today. So, if Muchova has to bail- OH, well.
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meganfernandez nelslus wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2023 2:47 pm
.....I'll soon be heading out today to NYC for the Open. YAY HEAT!!!! Will be seeing the tennis starting tomorrow through Saturday, flying back to Chicago on Sunday. AND, of course, a few days ago- a Facebook friend posted about their recent horror story with Southwest Airlines (....three guesses what airline I'll be on for this round trip).
My first time on a plane since COVID- and I'm actually a bit scared- not of flying- I do love flying. Nevertheless, health permitting- I am planning on having a splendid time. I've got my masks ready.
AND- usually before I go on any trips, I try to remember to check in here to see if my "today" pick has defaulted. WELL- I only have one choice for today. So, if Muchova has to bail- OH, well.
Have a great time and report back! Where are you sitting?
by ti-amie We're having a spike in Covid here in NYC. Keep your mask on and enjoy the tennis.
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nelslus meganfernandez wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2023 4:09 pm
nelslus wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2023 2:47 pm
.....I'll soon be heading out today to NYC for the Open. YAY HEAT!!!! Will be seeing the tennis starting tomorrow through Saturday, flying back to Chicago on Sunday. AND, of course, a few days ago- a Facebook friend posted about their recent horror story with Southwest Airlines (....three guesses what airline I'll be on for this round trip).
My first time on a plane since COVID- and I'm actually a bit scared- not of flying- I do love flying. Nevertheless, health permitting- I am planning on having a splendid time. I've got my masks ready.
AND- usually before I go on any trips, I try to remember to check in here to see if my "today" pick has defaulted. WELL- I only have one choice for today. So, if Muchova has to bail- OH, well.
Have a great time and report back! Where are you sitting?
NO problems at all with Southwest flying in- we actually got in a bit early. I had forgotten how convoluted it can be to get your luggage at LaGuardia. But, no big deal. The Airbnb room I have in the place I am staying at is small. But, I have my own washroom and shower- and the family seems quite nice. Plus, this costs a good deal less than a hotel.
Other than that, I believe that, when I am in Ashe, I have been assigned to the Nosebleed Section.
At any of the other stadiums/courts, I will push little old ladies and babies out of the way to get the best seats possible.
Tomorrow, I'll try to get there to watch the Sabalenka/Zheng match, and/or I'll be watching a lot of doubles. IF the Medvedev match looks interesting, I might toddle on into that match. Sadly, my ticket tomorrow is for the Day Session only. Assuming that Carlos wins tomorrow- I am so much hoping that Carlos will be the 3 p.m. match on Friday. It'd suck if I don't get to see Carlos (and/or if he loses tomorrow). The resale price for the night matches is just way too high. So, unless I can show enough leg and get someone's ticket as they are exiting a night match....
I also have become one of those stereotypes, in that, while I love time on my own and always have had plenty of independence with my life- I also, so much, hate not having John here with me. I miss him so much.
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meganfernandez nelslus wrote:meganfernandez wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2023 4:09 pm
nelslus wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2023 2:47 pm
.....I'll soon be heading out today to NYC for the Open. YAY HEAT!!!! Will be seeing the tennis starting tomorrow through Saturday, flying back to Chicago on Sunday. AND, of course, a few days ago- a Facebook friend posted about their recent horror story with Southwest Airlines (....three guesses what airline I'll be on for this round trip).
My first time on a plane since COVID- and I'm actually a bit scared- not of flying- I do love flying. Nevertheless, health permitting- I am planning on having a splendid time. I've got my masks ready.
AND- usually before I go on any trips, I try to remember to check in here to see if my "today" pick has defaulted. WELL- I only have one choice for today. So, if Muchova has to bail- OH, well.
Have a great time and report back! Where are you sitting?
NO problems at all with Southwest flying in- we actually got in a bit early. I had forgotten how convoluted it can be to get your luggage at LaGuardia. But, no big deal. The Airbnb room I have in the place I am staying at is small. But, I have my own washroom and shower- and the family seems quite nice. Plus, this costs a good deal less than a hotel.
Other than that, I believe that, when I am in Ashe, I have been assigned to the Nosebleed Section.
At any of the other stadiums/courts, I will push little old ladies and babies out of the way to get the best seats possible.
Tomorrow, I'll try to get there to watch the Sabalenka/Zheng match, and/or I'll be watching a lot of doubles. IF the Medvedev match looks interesting, I might toddle on into that match. Sadly, my ticket tomorrow is for the Day Session only. Assuming that Carlos wins tomorrow- I am so much hoping that Carlos will be the 3 p.m. match on Friday. It'd suck if I don't get to see Carlos (and/or if he loses tomorrow). The resale price for the night matches is just way too high. So, unless I can show enough leg and get someone's ticket as they are exiting a night match....
I also have become one of those stereotypes, in that, while I love time on my own and always have had plenty of independence with my life- I also, so much, hate not having John here with me. I miss him so much.
Didn’t realize you were alone. It’s lovely that you have someone to miss that much. You’ll see him soon!
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by Owendonovan I see a little resemblance to Tina Turner.
by Owendonovan I love that Madison just dropped a "(expletive)" bomb in her interview.
by Fastbackss Trying to endear herself to the crowd
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ponchi101 Fastbackss wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2023 12:50 am
Trying to endear herself to the crowd
More? I find her very likeable. I assume she is well liked in NYC.
by Fastbackss She is and had been commenting on how the crowd was supporting her.
I was being sarcastic given NY'ers penchant for using foul language
by ashkor87 Maybe time to move the USO to a date later in the year..it is just too hot at this time there..it will eat into the China swing, which is anyway good!
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skatingfan ashkor87 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2023 3:10 am
Maybe time to move the USO to a date later in the year..it is just too hot at this time there..it will eat into the China swing, which is anyway good!
This is probably a bit of an outlier in that the tournament started out seasonable, and then got hotter mid way through. Usually it's the other way around. Climate change may eventually force changes, but it will take a lot to get the USTA to move the event away from the Labour day long weekend at the end of the summer.
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nelslus I am TOTALLY curious about how things have gone for joanjettson, ti-amie, and all TAT members who have been or are going to the Open. To my huge surprise- the tennis at Ashe and Armstrong was actually quite comfortable concerning the heat. I mean, sure, I would have preferred being in a fully air conditioned space. With both, they kept large portions of the roofs closed. At Ashe, (and I was in Row W), it felt like there might even had some air conditioning going on, at least a bit? At Armstrong, it looked like they had some upper fans going on, and breezes were coming in and out. Fortunately, I knew that my spray sunscreen wasn't allowed. But, after shellacking myself with my spray sun screen prior to leaving for the Open- I was in shade so much, that I didn't need to use any of my sunscreen lotion. It was when I left the Open and started walking to the subway that I could feel how hot and humid it was (I think I left around 8:30 p.m. or so)- and instantly turned into a hot puddle of sweat and filth. At least I maintained my version of very aged beauty while I was at the Open today. Some folks who sat near me said that the conditions had been far worse on Tuesday. So, it looks like the Open provided some fixes that worked- at least for me.
The only match I saw at Ashe today was the full Sabalenka match. Total demolition in the 1st set. Zheng definitely played considerably better in the 2nd set- she especially served better. But, Sabalenka made very few skanky errors throughout the match, and it just took one sub-par service game to make the difference. Still- Sabalenka was in scary-good form.
I then toddled over to Armstrong, hoping that I'd be in time to see enough of the second doubles match. (Now and then, I checked the scores for the Medvedev/Rublev match. If Rublev had even taken a set, I probably would have at least watched a little of the match. But, THAT demolition derby I had zero interest in). WELL, leave it to Vera and Laura to eventually win over Vika and Haddad Maia in approximately a 57 hour match. It actually was mostly very well played- especially if one could ignore how obnoxious Laura can be. Either team could have won, but Laura and Vera have a LOT of doubles tricks up their sleeves. I then stayed in Armstrong for all three double matches.
Funny thing is- I was expecting to root on Coco and Jessica. But, it can now officially be announced that I just cannot ever root against Hsieh. I miss how well Hsieh used to play singles. But, she remains a HOF-level doubles player. She is just a joy to watch. Every shot in the book- and all of those evil, match-shifting lobs. Wisely, especially after the first set, Coco and Jessica played every shot they could at Wang. That worked in the second set. Mind you, throughout the match, when Hsieh could assert herself in the match, she did- usually (but not always) successfully.
But then, Wang and Hsieh went up double break in the third set- only, with some sloppy play- including from Hsieh, but mostly from Wang- and more forceful play from Coco and Jessica. THEN, all tied up, they broke Coco (throughout the match, Coco's serve/some double faults and forehands remained issues), and then Wang managed to hold. Truly- I'd have been happy with either team winning. But, Hsieh and Wang very much deserved the win. Even when Wang faltered- she managed to fix her mistakes when it mattered the most. 'Twas a team effort.
The Danilina/Heliovaara team were definitely the better team today- mostly because- by his standards- Pavic's poor play. While I believe that all of the players dropped their serves- Pavic got broken multiple times. Way too many double faults and errors- and, of course, grouchiness. Shibahara had some really good moments. But, again- on the day, the better team won. Danilina/Heliovaara were crazy-excited when they won- which was very nice to see. The first Slam final for both- and Heliovaara is 34 years old. I certainly didn't know he was that "old".
AS for Ben and Taylor.....UGGGGHHHH!!!! While Taylor and Ben managed to win the first set in a tiebreaker- winning the biggest points, and some errors from Krajicek in that tiebreaker. But, from then on- they sucked. Taylor served pretty poorly the whole match- and Ben was CLEARLY (one can only hope) "saving his arm" for his SF match against Novak. His first serve was mostly in the 90's MPH- but it could go down to the 70's MPH- where his second serve could mostly be found. He even served a second serve in the 60's MPH. After the first set, they both made WAY too many errors. Taylor missed so many volleys in the net, or groundstrokes over the baseline. And, I believe that every lob she put up either went out or was fodder for an easy overhead. Ben also became more and more error-prone. He'd then try to over-hit the hell out of a shot- seemingly often to show off. But, most of the huge shots went out. He just could not find the aggressive smart-play level that was needed. I was quite disappointed with them. But, I must also note that Jessica and Krajicek played a lot of excellent tennis- and certainly played much smarter in the second set and third set tiebreaker. Can't take anything away from them.
A bottom line is- one can only hope that Ben's poor level in the mixed ain't gonna replicate itself against Novak- as this has been looking like a simple blow-out as is for Novak. I do wish Ben had truly tried harder in the mixed. This can't help him at all with his singles SF- playing poorly can never help.
That's all I got. Which, admittedly and apparently, is a lot.
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nelslus OMG.....I swear, even though I pretty much fell asleep as soon as I got in the bed- I woke up feeling like an achy, dried up old trollop after being man-handled by a gang of local sailors. (And, YES, I know, this means it must be Thursday).
AND- here's my dilemma. The men's doubles SF starts at Armstrong at noon. Once those matches are over (AND, of course, with my luck, they'll probably each take an hour..... (WHERE are Laura and Vera when I really need them?!?!) I mean- assuming that Armstrong remains comfortable today (a BIG assumption)- they'll next have a WC men's doubles SF at Armstrong. I probably will just remain and watch that. (LOL, I just looked to see that this third match won't begin until 4 PM.
) THEN- sure, there's all sorts of remaining juniors, WC, etc matches- all in the delightful baking sun and humidity. I COULD after the two doubles matches go back to where I am staying. But, that's a good hour or so back and forth once you factor in waiting for the subway and train. And then making myself go back for the 7 PM!!!! women's SF matches.
I could of course just go to the open before 7 p.m.- but, Rajeev and Joe play the second doubles SF. OF course, they could also lose miserably....UGHHHH!!!!! I hope I can find some freakin' air-conditioned American Express lounge or something to, discreetly of course, nap.
FOR sure, as I'm likely to head out soon- I'm gonna on purpose be late for the first men's doubles SF.
****!!!! (Self-censored).
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ponchi101 Decisions, decisions, decisions....
(Have a great day!)
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meganfernandez nelslus wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2023 2:42 pm
OMG.....I swear, even though I pretty much fell asleep as soon as I got in the bed- I woke up feeling like an achy, dried up old trollop after being man-handled by a gang of local sailors. (And, YES, I know, this means it must be Thursday).
AND- here's my dilemma. The men's doubles SF starts at Armstrong at noon. Once those matches are over (AND, of course, with my luck, they'll probably each take an hour..... (WHERE are Laura and Vera when I really need them?!?!) I mean- assuming that Armstrong remains comfortable today (a BIG assumption)- they'll next have a WC men's doubles SF at Armstrong. I probably will just remain and watch that. (LOL, I just looked to see that this third match won't begin until 4 PM.
) THEN- sure, there's all sorts of remaining juniors, WC, etc matches- all in the delightful baking sun and humidity. I COULD after the two doubles matches go back to where I am staying. But, that's a good hour or so back and forth once you factor in waiting for the subway and train. And then making myself go back for the 7 PM!!!! women's SF matches.
I could of course just go to the open before 7 p.m.- but, Rajeev and Joe play the second doubles SF. OF course, they could also lose miserably....UGHHHH!!!!! I hope I can find some freakin' air-conditioned American Express lounge or something to, discreetly of course, nap.
FOR sure, as I'm likely to head out soon- I'm gonna on purpose be late for the first men's doubles SF.
****!!!! (Self-censored).
I'do for the 2nd mens dubs semi (Joe and Rajeev) and stay the whole day. I wouldn't go back to the Airbnb - the schlepping would be exhausting. Find a shady spot somewhere. Can you go inside the Chase lounge?
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ti-amie nelslus wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2023 2:42 pm
OMG.....I swear, even though I pretty much fell asleep as soon as I got in the bed- I woke up feeling like an achy, dried up old trollop after being man-handled by a gang of local sailors. (And, YES, I know, this means it must be Thursday).
AND- here's my dilemma. The men's doubles SF starts at Armstrong at noon. Once those matches are over (AND, of course, with my luck, they'll probably each take an hour..... (WHERE are Laura and Vera when I really need them?!?!) I mean- assuming that Armstrong remains comfortable today (a BIG assumption)- they'll next have a WC men's doubles SF at Armstrong. I probably will just remain and watch that. (LOL, I just looked to see that this third match won't begin until 4 PM.
) THEN- sure, there's all sorts of remaining juniors, WC, etc matches- all in the delightful baking sun and humidity. I COULD after the two doubles matches go back to where I am staying. But, that's a good hour or so back and forth once you factor in waiting for the subway and train. And then making myself go back for the 7 PM!!!! women's SF matches.
I could of course just go to the open before 7 p.m.- but, Rajeev and Joe play the second doubles SF. OF course, they could also lose miserably....UGHHHH!!!!! I hope I can find some freakin' air-conditioned American Express lounge or something to, discreetly of course, nap.
FOR sure, as I'm likely to head out soon- I'm gonna on purpose be late for the first men's doubles SF.
****!!!! (Self-censored).
Both Chase and AMEX have air conditioned lounges in the Armstrong area if I'm remembering correctly.
I haven't been on Ashe in years, definitely pre roof. If there's an interesting match on there I watch from the Plaza in front of Ashe. We used to just get grounds passes and wander from outer courts to Grandstand or Armstrong but that was because we went during the first week.
There was one year we went, 4-5 years ago, where we were constantly chugging water because it was so hot and we didn't make one trip to the ladies! I'll never forget that.
Still it seems people were leaving the place in droves yesterday afternoon because it was just too hot. The local all news station did a report about it. My daughter said the same thing when she went on the Sunday before opening day. The heat is supposed to break this afternoon nelslus.
by jazzyg Love those first-hand posts, nelsius.
The only two years I made it to the Open were 2002 and 2003 and they were both awesome days. I remember having just as hard a time making decisions about where to go or whether I should stay put.
by Owendonovan Why do I keep hearing commentators etc. saying Coco is trying to get to her first slam final when she's already been in one? Did I not see Coco in French Open final 2022?
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meganfernandez Owendonovan wrote:Why do I keep hearing commentators etc. saying Coco is trying to get to her first slam final when she's already been in one? Did I not see Coco in French Open final 2022?
Someone is actually saying that? Not first US Open final?
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meganfernandez jazzyg wrote:Love those first-hand posts, nelsius.
The only two years I made it to the Open were 2002 and 2003 and they were both awesome days. I remember having just as hard a time making decisions about where to go or whether I should stay put.
Yeah that stresses me out so much. So many places to be. And now it’s so crowded it can take awhile to get into a court. And if you have good seats somewhere, do you give them up?
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by ashkor87 Climate change protest has halted play
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Owendonovan meganfernandez wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2023 11:51 pm
Owendonovan wrote:Why do I keep hearing commentators etc. saying Coco is trying to get to her first slam final when she's already been in one? Did I not see Coco in French Open final 2022?
Someone is actually saying that? Not first US Open final?
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Yes, which I've found weird, the frequency, because I paid specific attention to make sure it was what I was hearing during her last match. Also, oddly I haven't really heard her FO final appearance as any kind of particular qualifier of her.
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nelslus ti-amie wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2023 2:42 am
This all was INSANITY!!!! being there. It all took about 45 minutes to an hour. For quite awhile, no one that I talked with knew exactly what the hell this was all about. We all could hear folks making some kind of repeated statements, and they were clearly not going to shut up. I mean, they escorted the players out- and finally made some kind of loud-speaker very vague statement about there had some kind of disturbance, and things were being handled. I called John finally so he could find out for me. For a bit, I was thinking- HEY, sure, get the players out of their to safety and, LOL **** the rest of us. (Self-censored). It was really weird for quite awhile- even when the tennis started back up. It's like, in the world we live in- there have been horrible things that have happened at large events. And I sure wasn't thrilled being around 20,000+ people if the sh** had really hit the fan.
IN any case- y'all- the heat wasn't that much of a concern today at all. I have always worried far too much. I mean, obviously it was very hot out there- this time, especially, as I was getting to the Open. But, Armstrong was indeed again quite comfortable. After that, I found out that the Chase lounge was closed today, but the AmExp lounge was open, so indeed I did go in there- as, LOL, I didn't see these recommendations from ti-amie until now. I even got this free cool facial and upper body cool mist treatment thingy- and do NOT go there you PERVS!!
I got bored quickly, so I left, and then simultaneously watched the #1 boys doubles team and #8 girls doubles team win- happily, in the shade, and outdoor breezes kept coming.
BTW, when I've gone to the Open during earlier matches, I often have just gone from match to match to match- sticking with outstanding matches and/or involving my favorite players.
Of course, I was absolutely thrilled to see Rajeev and Joe get to the final. Joe was outstanding throughout the match- except IMO he didn't serve all that well throughout the match (his serve was the one that got broken in the second set). Rajeev kept making errors on some break points throughout the match. But, Rajeev's serve was amazing- especially when it mattered the most in the third set. They both had some amazing saves and great volleys. Rajeev clearly got quite emotional during the on-court post-match interview. He talked about the relatively rough year they have been having- but was happy that they have chosen to keep playing together. They really over-all played a great match against a very formidable team.
It is very late, so, LOL, I am about to wrap all of this up (at least by MY standards for what "about" means). 'Twas great to see Coco win. The Keys match was ultimately heartbreaking. LOL, normally, I probably would have been rooting hard for Sabalenka. But, Keys played unbelievable tennis in the first set- and good enough to serve for the match in the second. Got broken to love. Played a horrible second set tiebreaker. Even with Sabalenka playing better and better, especially in the third set- Madison managed to go up a break. AND, immediately got broken. She was making way too many errors- but still managed to get things to a third set tiebreaker. At which point, like in the second set, she flopped like a dead fish in the third set tiebreaker. She just cannot let herself win a Slam title. Always gonna be the bridesmaid. And JUST when one could think that she was at least playing well enough (and Sabalenka was a hot-mess in the first set, all cranky and breaking her racquet) at what looked to me like a last-stand Slam effort- AH, well. (Sabalenka did play some great tennis to win- but, the errors sure helped.) Like I said- really sad.
SINCE I have an Ashe ticket for tomorrow- I will probably at least sneak in to see Shelton get destroyed by Novak, until it is confirmed how ugly this all will get- not sure if I'll need to use my Ashe ticket to see the men's doubles final at noon? I'll definitely be there, unless I over-sleep. I HATE!!!! that they have the women's doubles SF's starting at the same time as the Rajeev/Joe match- but, I definitely hope to see some of the women's doubles, at least. I also HATE!!!! that I won't get to see Carlos live. I mean- if Carlos manages to lose to Medvedev, THEN I won't mind missing the match.
IN addition to weather variables- a thing that may make me stop going to the US Open- especially the later stages- is that so many bozo's will NOT STFU during the matches. It seems to be getting worse and worse. There have always been privileged a-holes that go to tennis tournaments, just to socialize with their snotty and deeply respectful buddies. But, paying a lot of money to be around these jerks....I just don't know anymore. I may be aging out- if I'm not already there?
A very hideous women's fashion trend tonight- white and short baby-doll dress ensembles. (And, it doesn't help if you have the same baby-doll ensembles in another color). Even if you're gorgeous- you IMO look stupid with this bizarre "youthful" trend. I mean, perhaps this crap works on hetero men?!?! But, this is at far too much of a price with losing your dignity and ANY semblance of fashion sense. Especially as so many women had this look- including a woman who sat next to me. HIDEOUS!!!!
by ashkor87 very mature and generous comments by Coco on the protestors who disrupted her match - essentially saying 'yes, I wish it hadnt hapened at that stage in the match but climate change is real, they are protesting it, so I cannot really get too angry with them.'
by nelslus ANY other time, I'd have gladly joined the protest. And, I get that they did this because it would certainly get their cause attention- a cause I fully support, and then some. But, again- we were all in a space with over 20,000 people. With all of the horrors that have gone on at large events- IMO, it was wrong to make a large group anxious like that. God forbid any large group has started to panic.
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ti-amie Thanks for the on-site reporting nelslus. I can only imagine how anxiety inducing the not knowing was for everyone.
I'm glad you got to chill in the AmEx lounge. I just wish they'd put another one closer to the Grandstand/Court 17/Outer Court area so fans don't have to walk so far to get to those lounges.
It's already clouding over here in the Bronx so I guess the roof will be closed on Ashe.
by nelslus ....SO, most definitely, being able to see Rajeev and Joe win their third Open title was, for me, VERY nerve-wracking (but I DID manage to keep my composure, mostly, during the match- there may have been a few near me who might beg to differ....), exciting- and- hyperbole or not, something I'll remember and deeply appreciate for the rest of my life. I SO much hoped that I could be there to see them win a US Open title. They got very emotional, LOL, and so did I. Due to exhaustion (plus, I have been insisting on picking up some apples and fruit in the neighborhood I am staying in, and some lunch from the wonderful place that I love to get excellent and FAR more affordable lunches from, very close to the main entrance to the Open prior to going to any matches)- I showed up late for this match- around the last two games of the first set. Where Rajeev and Joe were playing horribly- and Bopanna and Ebden were playing some great tennis. At that point, while I was quite miserable that it was quite possible that they were going to lose the match- I figured, well, HEY, if Sabalenka could win after losing her first set 0-6- anything is possible. The second and third sets were far better tennis from Rajeev and Joe- with some definite signs of nerves- while the level of Bopanna and Ebden dipped- they made errors they hadn't been making. In the first game of the third set, they had a love-40 lead to break- didn't happen. They had an excellent shot to break Joe at some point in the third set- but, misplayed some crucial shots. Finally, Rajeev and Joe got the needed break, and hung in there to win. Last game, Rajeev did go down 15-30, making some errors- but, he picked up the level of his serving again, and Bopanna and Ebden made some crucial errors. LOL, on the last point- I thought Rajeev had double faulted. That last second serve of Rajeev's went DEEP- but, hell, the damned thing stayed in, and forced the error. I was DEEPLY relieved when I saw them celebrating their win. Richly deserved. They both very emotionally praised each other- which was so lovely to witness. I mean, with the year that they had (and, again, Rajeev chatted about their down year results-wise)- every match, I expected that they would lose- as they usually did lose matches this year. That they somehow found a way to get their sh** together and win this thing is extraordinary. BTW, this match did have some great play, very exciting moments, and extraordinary volleying from all of the players.
It is always so wonderful when you follow any player during their scrub tournament years. We watched Rajeev a number of times playing in the Winnetka, Illinois Challenge tournament (which btw has been dormant for a few years now. BOOOOO to that.)
Also, I must mention- as Rajeev talked about in his speech- that Bopanna had an incredibly great-sportsmanship moment in the third set. I think Ebden was serving? They lost the first point- and then it seemed to everyone that they had won the next point to get to 15-all. Until Bopanna talked with the umpire, to let the umpire know that- if I am remembering this correctly- the ball from his opponents had hit his shirt- making it that they were then down love-30. They did not get broken that game- which is obviously the "right" way for this game to end- LOL, especially for me where Rajeev and Joe won. I don't think anyone but him would ever have known that the ball had hit his shirt. I mean- talk about showing true class. Even with my favorite players- I doubt that they or just about any other player would have called this on himself. Makes me respect Bopanna even more.
Due to the length of this match- and as the Ashe and Armstrong roofs had to be closed, due to a storm going through (which, again, I had heard about the day before, so I brought my umbrella)- after I went into Armstrong, I was only able to watch about a set and a half of Siegemund Freud and Vera destroying Brady and Stefani 6-4, 6-1. (I had already googled on my phone about Hsieh and Wang losing, which I was very bummed about.) Freud and Vera I believe had a double break lead in the first set (I was fried at that point from the Rajeev and Joe win)- something like 4-0/5-1, and then Brady and Stefani came back, almost all the way. The second set was a matter of the far better doubles team winning. So, neither was the win that I wanted. I mean, may the best women's doubles team win, and all that blah, blah, blah, blah. But, heck, as I am sure you all know by now- the Rajeev and Joe win was pretty much the only result that had my approval today.
As it was still raining enough when I left Armstrong- the only tennis I could watch was the Novak and Ben match. So, from the middle of the second set, I watched the rest of the match. Turns out- LOL, I was in a section with a lot of Novak fans- Serb flags and all. But, the Novak fans and Ben fans in my area were very cool about what was going on- I had some lovely times chatting with the Novak fans. (Especially in the third set, I kept telling them- y'all, worst case scenario, Ben wins the third set and Novak takes this in 4- count on that. I got what I wanted ultimately- not the blood-bath I had expected- but, in the third set, where Ben was able to show everyone watching some great and incredible tennis moments. Ben came back from break-down in the third set, had a set point (Novak did serve a great serve to force the error with this set point)- and Novak showed definite signs of nerves. His serve was deteriorating- and, his multiple bouncy-bouncies gamesmanship and clearly ignoring the mandate of how long you have to serve (didn't get called on this while I watched the match) all came into play. Ben just made too many errors with the chances that he had- over-all going for far too huge shots- albeit, he DID successfully make some successful huge shots, too. If he can find a way to maintain the level of his third set- and cut down on unnecessary errors- his career could go a long way. He should be very proud of his third set play- especially after making so many bad plays in the second set (and, one can assume, the first set).
Happily, I did not know about the mocking and dismissive moments Novak had about Ben after the match had ended- I found out later about this when I called John. I truly get how awful it must be to play in front of so many crowds- most definitely American crowds- with so many people very loudly, and rudely too often- wanting you to lose. BUT- dude- you have been anointed as the GOAT, you have many, many millions of dollars, you are clearly loved by your fellow Serbs, and plenty of others. You consistently being a jerk and an a-hole doesn't make me feel sorry for you. Grow up. Show some true class. You're not a 20 year old.
OH, by the way- on an insane lark, and as there were box office workers available, I went up to one to find out if there were any Carlos tickets available. Why SURE- one ticket at well over $1,000, and one ticket at well over $3,000, LOL, I might have gone for a bit over $100. But, obviously- glad I saved on NOT purchasing any ticket. A little more about this in a few....
I AM moderately disappointed that I didn't then leave, as I had time to get to a Broadway show. Thing is- I was (and am) very, VERY tired, I was very hungry, and plenty of junior and WC tennis (etc). matches were going on, with the rain having stopped. Matches that almost all would have already been over over after I left Ashe due to the storms. So- stay I did. I saw a bit of a few matches- but mostly, I watched almost all of the junior boys' SF, where American 11th seed Tien beat French 15th seed Gea 7-6 (5), 6-7 (5), 6-1. (I now and then masochistically kept going to the large screen to watch Carlos' crap play over and over again). This match had so many wild momentum shifts- especially when I tell you all that Tien had been up 7-6, 4-0! One thing I found very interesting were the very vocal interactions coming from Tien's quite young African-American coach. I didn't find out his name, but I was so impressed with his relentlessly positive and concise feedback. I ended up going up to him in the middle of the match, to tell him I really respected his coaching. We ended up having a very nice and pretty long chat- he went into details about how he coaches, and his opinion about other players who break racquets, yell out obscenities, etc. I really appreciated the time he spent chatting with me, and made sure to congratulate him with Tien's win. Very ironically enough- as, down I think 4-1 in the third, Gea called for a trainer. I went up again to the coach and said, "HEY, you think if Gea was up 4-1 in the third he would have called the trainer"- and he most definitely agreed with me, and we talked about the gamesmanship Gea had been demonstrating. Some was obvious to anyone paying attention (over and over again, he was clearly trying to get into Tien's head- which clearly worked out well coming back in the second set)- but he brought up other more subtle examples. In THIS case, however- it would appear that the request for the trainer was legit. Gea couldn't do much of anything the last two games. In any case, interesting match, and very cool chatting with the coach.
AS for the Carlos match- I HATE!!!! the way he played when I watched, and I HATE!!!! that he lost to Medvedev. I mean, the one nice thing I can say about Medvedev is- I do detest him less than Novak (and Zverev, for that matter). VERY bummed about this. But, the kid is 20, and he has every right to be fried at this point in time. And, obviously, Medvedev can play some great tennis. And, Carlos won Wimbledon- which hugely compensates- and way more than a fan can expect from a favorite player. (I wasn't at all sure that Carlos would ever win Wimbledon- much less beat Novak in a Wimbledon final at the age of 20). Just.....please win some more Slam titles in the future ASAP, Carlos.
IN conclusion: YAY RAJEEV AND JOE!!!!
by ponchi101 Alcaraz will win many more slams. Yesterday was simply a case of playing against another fine hard court player. There is nothing wrong with him and he looks like the dominant player once Novak retires.
Six titles in a year (so far), one them Wimby? Tell anybody to sign that contract on Jan1st and there is no way anybody does not. He has had an excellent year, so far.
by ashkor87 Coco has also done something else very few will notice: winning Cincinnati and going on to win the USO..only Serena has done that lately, almost 10 years ago..the conditions, the weight of the occasion, the court speed, are so different- speaks highly of Coco's class as a champion...
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nelslus SO- my time at the Open this year has ended. Very, very quickly.
I keep mentioning that, both at Ashe and Armstrong, when they were showing random strangers on the jumbotrons, they very, very often would either superimpose folks' faces surrounded by a tennis ball, and/or superimposing psychodelic-esque cartoony-y glasses on people. MAYBE the first 50 times, it was OH SO darling. But, this was incessant. IMO, very annoying. I mean, superimpose a penis in place of someone's nose- or something of that ilk- and I'm all down for that. But, really- you don't have to do anything to make folks shown on the jumbotrons to embarrass themselves- either when they see themselves, or the gyrations they will make to beg to get shown. Mind you- every now and then, someone manages to do something truly funny- or, if you truly are a great dancer- please do dance. However- the rest of the 99.99% of the folks- just smile, wave- but DO NOT DANCE. There was one Black guy at Armstrong who I had already noticed- he had his hair braided with multi-colors- which he majorly did pull off- which very few could. When they showed him- he made some major Diva poses and moves- it was great to see. They showed him more than once, and he got a big round of applause every time.
Yet again due to major exhaustion, I was late for the mixed final. I would have been even later. But, for the first time, the bus was there when I got to the stop, I already had my water and apple, and the train came very quickly. (The Open MAJORLY had the air conditioning pumping out at Ashe today BTW. It was actually pretty cold. Which was delightful for me. But- isn't it nice to know that there is a hierarchy at the Open for those who deserve the full Ashe air conditioning treatment?) Yet again, my being late- just as well. Jessica and Austin played well below their levels- especially Krajicek, who got broken twice in the second set. (I only got to see a little of the first set). Danilina and Heliovaara were, by far, the better team, and very much earned the title. And, it really was lovely to see the gymnastic moves that Heliovaara pulled off after winning, and how excited he was.
Yet another example of Open poo-bahs dropping the ball (no pun intended this time)- after the mixed match, I went to a court that had the boys' junior singles final listed with that court's electronic scoreboards. Well- I was enough of a knuckle-head to sit around for about half and hour or so- having nice conversations with a few folks. I looked at other courts that had no matches going on- but with matches listed. I then noted that, in front of Ashe where they have huge displays of, generally, current matches, scores, etc.- there was a posted announcement that all matches on the outside courts were suspended "temporarily" due to the threat of lightning in the area. (When I was in Ashe, it sure sounded like there was some thunder going on.) So, I went back to that court to let folks know that matches were suspended until further notice, due to the threat of local lightning, and then made the same announcement at other courts. LOL, a lot of folks still sat around. I, however, toddled off to the air conditioned American Express space, and sat on a couch reading a new book on the Broadway musical of Carrie (*spoiler alert- things did not go well with the original Broadway cast version of the musical version of Carrie). Then, off to the Coco final. Didn't see any signs that any matches were going on at the outer courts- but I didn't look closely, either.
BTW- YET another Open annoyance- I found out yesterday that the Chase space was closed since that qualifying and the first week of the Open- for private events only. I am planning on sharing such observations. As if it matters, since almost all of us customers are clearly peons.
The Coco match!!!!! Unbelievable that I got two lifetime memories at one US Open. Coco was horrible in the first set, and Sabalenka was pretty great. In the last two sets, Sabalenka's level clearly dropped. Coco's level improved slowly, and by the second half of the second set through the third set- Coco's level just went sky-high. She played big, with some changes of pace that worked, she played smart, her serve came together, her groundstrokes were terrific, she was making very few errors- she was just playing at a very high level. Yet again, as I do for far too many players- I can question Sabalenka taking a medical time-out down 4-1- i.e., would she have taken a medical time-out if she had been up 4-1? And, she then did break Coco to be down 2-4. Nevertheless, Coco did win the last two games quite sufficiently. So, who knows? It does suck that I feel like questioning almost every player for these medical time-outs when they are down in a match. But, who knows? And, I don't think that Sabalenka does medical time-outs-when losing that frequently? (If she does, please feel free to correct me on this).
I also was surrounded by a lot of truly terrific people for this final. Hopefully, I'll remember to post more about that in the near future. I had some photos taken with my phone. Once John helps me, if he can (and if the photos come out OK), I'll post some photos with more details.
I already mentioned about my feelings about Rajeev and Joe's win. Well, I had the great privilege to be there live to see Serena's first Open win, Venus' first Open win, Roger beating Lleyton in a US Open final. And, now, Coco. Absolutely incredible. Not that I'd ever want to be the one to put Coco under any pressure to require her to reach their career levels. But, ya gotta think that Coco's gonna win multiple Slam singles titles now. NO guarantee, of course, with tennis. She's so eloquent and speaks up about so many important issues. I mean, she's 19?!?! Insane.
And, I do just have to give a little, no-malice-meant snark to a few TAT members who posted the equivalent of that Coco might likely never to happen. To which I've been waiting to say: Pfffffttttt.
After that match, I didn't notice any matches going on at the outer courts. But, I could most definitely be wrong- because I looked up and saw that they did complete junior and other matches on the outer courts at some point. In any case, I did not have time to spare. I decided that, exhaustion be damned- and knowing that I would have to rush a lot- I was gonna try to see a Broadway show. My targets were Sweeny Todd (I saw the original cast at least twice- Angela Lansbury and, first Len Cariou, and then George Hearn- I THINK Cariou was the original Sweeney, but I could be wrong about this- some terrific actors are in the cast- and Josh Grobin is Sweeny- and I would have loved to just hear him sing that Sondheim score), and Kimberly Akimbo. KEEP in mind that I started leaving the Open around 6:45 p.m. I was calling John at that time while I was huffing and puffing my way to the train, in full sweaty old man grossness. I managed to get in an "express" 7 train- although it didn't go past all that many stops- a bit after 7 p.m., and it sat there for at least 5 minutes. By the time I got to Times Square and out of that crazy exit space, with long walks and another zillion steps to climb- I had about 20-25 minutes to spare. I knew that I did not have enough time to look at TKTS. Only a few blocks to get to Sweeney Todd (on 46th- got off the train at 41st- 42nd Streets. But, of course that was also plowing through tons of folks on the streets (not literally, in this case
) As I knew would be the case, there were no options with Sweeney Todd- no standing room, rush tickets, or ANY tickets. I then rushed to 45th Street for Kimberly Akimbo. Literally with 5 minutes now to spare (although Broadway shows now rarely start on time- it takes them forever to get everyone in the theatre). I explained to the folks in the line that I was cutting through to get to the box office. LOL, some staff were using these scanners (I had my allowed-US-Open transparent mini-bag with me stuffed with sunscreens, Excedrins, Advils, water, bug spray non-aerosols, etc. etc.), and I clearly caused some beeping- but, for the first time ever, I just ignored this and got right to the ticket office. I asked about any options- standing room, rush tickets, low-price tickets- to find out the only option was a standing room tickets. NOT ideal for my tendinitis-ridden old body- and I knew, as is the case for almost all Broadway musicals. that this would be a LONG show) and yet, also perfect. $40 total cost- they don't charge any fees when you go directly to a Broadway box office and purchase tickets. Ran down the steps to use the facilities, and ran back up to take my standing room place- which was an excellent space for me.
As I figured it would- I loved the show. I thought the show could have ended more realistically and darker- LOL, if anyone wants to know what I am talking about- you'll have to google what the show is about. (WHAT- my posts aren't long enough?!?!?!) Victoria Clark is the lead- and she has long been a terrific actress, and deservedly won the most recent Best Actress in a musical Tony award, in addition to other awards- and, this was her second Tony. An actress named Bonnie Milligan won the most recent Best Supporting Actress in a musical Tony award- she plays this twisted, nutty and criminal-minded character. IMO, she and an actress who played the mother of the lead (again, google if interested) had the best voices- actually very powerful and phenomenal voices. An actor was nominated for a Tony- Best Supporting Actor in a musical- terrific, eccentric and charming performance from this actor- a very young man named Justin Cooley. It also won the most recent Best Musical Tony award- it won a total of 5 Tony awards out of 8 nominations. The whole cast was terrific- and it is funny at times, and very moving.
AND- btw, my dinner tonight- noting that I have Diabetes 2- one hot dog as I was running to the theatres, and a second hot dog during intermission. (I did have some grapes when I got back to where I have been staying. So there). I knew I'd have to accept some "bad eating" for this trip- but I recently have been messing up with my food- and, I don't want to lose my feet and/or legs. So, I must go back to clean eating starting tomorrow. No excuses.
Ultimately, it was just deeply moving for me to be back at the US Open, and back seeing a wonderful show on Broadway. I have missed both tremendously.
And THAT is it. Much shorter posts to start immediately- with the always required
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by Fastbackss Shorter posts aren't needed. That was great - after reading that I am here for it if you want to give detailed summaries about anything - including minutiae in your life like "John and I found a new coffee shop..."
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nelslus ....LOL, my NYC stay has been extended for (hopefully!!!!!) just one more day. My Southwest Airlines flight was cancelled- as I believe at least all Southwest Airlines flights were cancelled (and all flights)? Storms all days.
VERY fortunately, I can stay where I already am for the next day and a half. My hosts are getting married soon- so, I gave them some extra $'s in addition to the same rate for a day and a half, as a honeymoon gift- and Raymond can drive me to the airport once he gets back from work. Funnily enough, Southwest had already re-booked me for a flight around 9 a.m.- which I found out when I woke up around 11 a.m. ALSO very fortunately, I was able to simply re-book with no fee to leave at 9:15 p.m. tomorrow via Southwest Airlines, arriving back in Chicago at 10:45 p.m. When I called John, bless his heat, he said that he had been on the phone to Southwest for about a half hour. He also said he'd pick me up, even though he'll start work early on Tuesday, as always. (Did I happen to mention that I love this guy?)
Some local neighbors decided to have a pool party in their kiddie-sized pool, with blaring music- including as of 5 a.m. I yelled at them out of my window a few times- nothing. I then went outside, found a narrow alley where I was in front of the their large fence from their back yard- and kept yelling- saying did they really want me to call the cops- and told them I would continue to yell until they turned off the music. I told them I was certain that their neighbors would either all wake up, and/or I am sure they've wanted to yell out at them themselves. Raymond this a.m. told me that they hate these neighbors- go figure. One dude had the nerve to respond with "Bro, it's a Saturday night". I responded that, well- it was now 5 a.m. on Sunday- and again, I'd keep on yelling until they turned the music off. Responding to my graciousness, they finally turned the music off- and I got some sleep.
Gonna try to get a TKTS ticket tonight, or better yet, a Rush ticket. Not too many options, as is usual for a Sunday- many shows take Sundays and/or Mondays off. I almost definitely will try to get a discounted ticket for Here Lives Love- the HILarious disco-esque dance-a-thon hour and a half musical!!!! (NOT kidding- but, it actually got very good reviews- PROBLEMATIC subject matter and all- and, apparently, a crowd-pleaser. DON'T JUDGE ME!!!!!
(LOL at that time, I was such a ninny that I hadn't yet even thought of, HEY, this gives me a chance to see another Broadway show!! No Sweeny Todd performance on a Sunday, however).
For a laugh, I looked at what the cost was the Open men's final ticket. Cheapest price was over $400 (didn't bother to look to see if there's any Grounds Admissions options. I mean, LOL, I wouldn't go if they paid me $400 and I got a ******* from my men's player choice.
by Fastbackss Quite a crescendo there.
Glad you were able to easily keep your lodging and get a flight out. Oh, and good work getting the neighbors to quiet down !
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nelslus Fastbackss wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2023 6:03 pm
Quite a crescendo there.
Glad you were able to easily keep your lodging and get a flight out. Oh, and good work getting the neighbors to quiet down !
....AND, while I was outside getting some lunch- I saw that clearly some planes were leaving from LGA. Southwest Airlines- ya lousy bums!
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skatingfan nelslus wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2023 7:32 pm
....AND, while I was outside getting some lunch- I saw that clearly some planes were leaving from LGA. Southwest Airlines- ya lousy bums!
When you airplanes are made of papier-mâché you have to be cautious with flying in the rain.
by ponchi101 Lovely shot.
by ti-amie Celebrity watch Day 14
Matthew McConaughey
L'il Wayne is a huge tennis fan. Good to see him here
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nelslus skatingfan wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2023 7:50 pm
nelslus wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2023 7:32 pm
....AND, while I was outside getting some lunch- I saw that clearly some planes were leaving from LGA. Southwest Airlines- ya lousy bums!
When you airplanes are made of papier-mâché you have to be cautious with flying in the rain.
....AND if they run out of umbrellas covering the pilots' windows so that they can (allegedly) see while they fly the planes.
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nelslus ....AND I did make it home. With major delays. We finally were in the air some time a bit after midnight, East Coast Time. From the boards, I could see that they had cancelled some other flights- still rain going on in Manhattan and Chicago. BUT- no lightning or storms. John said there had been some heavy rain in Chicago today, but it didn't last long. And, from Midway, John got us home around 1:25 a.m, Chicago time. I have receipts, and I'm gonna hit up Southwest Airlines for some reimbursements. BUT- I AM home!!!!!
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ti-amie Matt Dowell
@MattDowellTV
US Open Finals viewership averages:
Coco Gauff vs Aryna Sabalenka: 3.422 million (with a pretty high peak at match point I'm assuming)
Novak Djokovic vs Daniil Medvedev: 2.321 million
Comfort Agyemfra
@CAgyemfra
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3h
And this is also some people not able to watch because of the fight between Disney and some cable company in New York. Just imagine if they were able to watch it, the numbers could be crazy.
Matt Dowell
@MattDowellTV
The men's final last year did 2.15 million. Saturday is also dominated by college football in the US so the women have plenty to compete against as well.
The tournament as a whole did very well ratings wise this year in the US. ESPN will be very happy.
by ponchi101 Should the USO start on Sunday and have BOTH Finals run on the Saturday of the second week? Because having anybody go against the NFL on their first week will always be a losing effort in the USA.
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nelslus ti-amie wrote: ↑Tue Sep 12, 2023 7:28 pm
Matt Dowell
@MattDowellTV
US Open Finals viewership averages:
Coco Gauff vs Aryna Sabalenka: 3.422 million (with a pretty high peak at match point I'm assuming)
Novak Djokovic vs Daniil Medvedev: 2.321 million
Comfort Agyemfra
@CAgyemfra
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3h
And this is also some people not able to watch because of the fight between Disney and some cable company in New York. Just imagine if they were able to watch it, the numbers could be crazy.
Matt Dowell
@MattDowellTV
The men's final last year did 2.15 million. Saturday is also dominated by college football in the US so the women have plenty to compete against as well.
The tournament as a whole did very well ratings wise this year in the US. ESPN will be very happy.
Clearly, it's time for the men to take a pay cut.
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meganfernandez nelslus wrote: ↑Tue Sep 12, 2023 8:19 pm
ti-amie wrote: ↑Tue Sep 12, 2023 7:28 pm
Matt Dowell
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US Open Finals viewership averages:
Coco Gauff vs Aryna Sabalenka: 3.422 million (with a pretty high peak at match point I'm assuming)
Novak Djokovic vs Daniil Medvedev: 2.321 million
Clearly, it's time for the men to take a pay cut.
Nah, let's do the right thing and split the money with the men. No need to be petty.
by ponchi101 And that has been my point against "equal pay" by decree. If the women's final had better rating, and let's assume that this happens again and again, let the women get paid more. If the WTA becomes a more attractive package, let the splits go by what the market says.
And I am not joking.
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nelslus ponchi101 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 12, 2023 9:21 pm
And that has been my point against "equal pay" by decree. If the women's final had better rating, and let's assume that this happens again and again, let the women get paid more. If the WTA becomes a more attractive package, let the splits go by what the market says.
And I am not joking.
NOPE. Equal pay. Make this the best, and with all possible opportunities, for all players.
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nelslus DAMN. I was just about to post some photos from the US Open. I keep getting messages that the files are too large (tee-hee). If anyone has a REALLY simple fix- please do let me know. Otherwise- no photos to share here.
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skatingfan nelslus wrote: ↑Tue Sep 12, 2023 10:59 pm
DAMN. I was just about to post some photos from the US Open. I keep getting messages that the files are too large (tee-hee). If anyone has a REALLY simple fix- please do let me know. Otherwise- no photos to share here.
I've always found the easiest way is to post the photos to social media, and then copy the link from there to post it here.
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ponchi101 There is no easy fix. We have a limit on size and, well, if they are too large, you would have to resize them.
Sorry
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nelslus skatingfan wrote: ↑Tue Sep 12, 2023 11:16 pm
nelslus wrote: ↑Tue Sep 12, 2023 10:59 pm
DAMN. I was just about to post some photos from the US Open. I keep getting messages that the files are too large (tee-hee). If anyone has a REALLY simple fix- please do let me know. Otherwise- no photos to share here.
I've always found the easiest way is to post the photos to social media, and then copy the link from their to post it here.
I'm about to do a large post on Facebook. I'll try this later. Thanks!
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nelslus ponchi101 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 12, 2023 11:21 pm
There is no easy fix. We have a limit on size and, well, if they are too large, you would have to resize them.
Sorry
NO need to feel sorry. Perfectly understandable. Thanks for the update.
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meganfernandez ponchi101 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 12, 2023 9:21 pm
And that has been my point against "equal pay" by decree. If the women's final had better rating, and let's assume that this happens again and again, let the women get paid more. If the WTA becomes a more attractive package, let the splits go by what the market says.
And I am not joking.
If we are seeking ultimate fairness, the division would be stars vs non-stars, not tour vs tour. Coco would take home even more money than she did. Shelton, too. I don't know why prize money is yoked to ratings, anyway.
And if there's a lever to pull to correct for gender bias in the workplace and sports, I say pull it. Whatever unfairness results is worse than the alternative.
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meganfernandez
Incredible. Great photo!
by jazzyg No sane person, anywhere, ever said Coco would NEVER win a slam. Railing against false doubters is a pox on sports now, and I think less of her now than before when she uttered that inanity after winning the match. Makes me almost ill.
Having written that, I absolutely am someone who posted here she was a ways away from winning a slam as recently as post-Wimbledon. I did not think she would win it even after dominating the summer hard court circuit. I did not think with her forehand she would win one before the age 21, if that soon, so I was dead wrong. Although she played several three-set matches, she never was in danger of losing any of them and was a deserving winner. But I would love for anyone to point out any credible TV analyst or writer who said or wrote anything about Gauff never winning a slam. It never happened.
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meganfernandez jazzyg wrote: ↑Wed Sep 13, 2023 7:05 pm
No sane person, anywhere, ever said Coco would NEVER win a slam. Railing against false doubters is a pox on sports now, and I think less of her now than before when she uttered that inanity after winning the match. Makes me almost ill.
Having written that, I absolutely am someone who posted here she was a ways away from winning a slam as recently as post-Wimbledon. I did not think she would win it even after dominating the summer hard court circuit. I did not think with her forehand she would win one before the age 21, if that soon, so I was dead wrong. Although she played several three-set matches, she never was in danger of losing any of them and was a deserving winner. But I would love for anyone to point out any credible TV analyst or writer who said or wrote anything about Gauff never winning a slam. It never happened.
I didn't pick her to win because her draw was tough and there was SO much hype, and Iga and Sabalenka have been amazing this year. I still don't think Gauff would have beaten Iga in the quarters, even though she just beat her in Cincy. Sabalenka beat herself as much as Gauff won the final. Gauff's takedown of Muchova was her best match IMO.
I figured Gauff was more likely to win majors than not at some point. I never say "when, not if" anymore - too many factors.
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nelslus
Thanks so much.
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nelslus meganfernandez wrote: ↑Wed Sep 13, 2023 7:24 pm
jazzyg wrote: ↑Wed Sep 13, 2023 7:05 pm
No sane person, anywhere, ever said Coco would NEVER win a slam. Railing against false doubters is a pox on sports now, and I think less of her now than before when she uttered that inanity after winning the match. Makes me almost ill.
Having written that, I absolutely am someone who posted here she was a ways away from winning a slam as recently as post-Wimbledon. I did not think she would win it even after dominating the summer hard court circuit. I did not think with her forehand she would win one before the age 21, if that soon, so I was dead wrong. Although she played several three-set matches, she never was in danger of losing any of them and was a deserving winner. But I would love for anyone to point out any credible TV analyst or writer who said or wrote anything about Gauff never winning a slam. It never happened.
I didn't pick her to win because her draw was tough and there was SO much hype, and Iga and Sabalenka have been amazing this year. I still don't think Gauff would have beaten Iga in the quarters, even though she just beat her in Cincy. Sabalenka beat herself as much as Gauff won the final. Gauff's takedown of Muchova was her best match IMO.
I figured Gauff was more likely to win majors than not at some point. I never say "when, not if" anymore - too many factors.
For me- I saw both matches live. For me, Coco's game was at its best from the middle of the second set through the third set.
BTW- while here I put in 2/6 votes for Coco to win- that was more a combo of her very solid level of play post-Wimbledon, the shakiness of almost all players from both tours, hopeful thinking, and wanting to put in some positive karma for Coco. I did not think she'd win this year. THEN- there was Coco's very rough first round match against Siegemund, losing sets to Caroline and Mertens....Having said all of that- somehow (and what I just wrote may not make the following real credible)- I do think Coco would have beaten Swiatek at this Open. At least by her standards- Swiatek's level of play hasn't impressed me all that much post-Roland Garros.
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nelslus jazzyg wrote: ↑Wed Sep 13, 2023 7:05 pm
No sane person, anywhere, ever said Coco would NEVER win a slam. Railing against false doubters is a pox on sports now, and I think less of her now than before when she uttered that inanity after winning the match. Makes me almost ill.
Coco IS a 19 year old African American very young woman. I'd give her some lee-way just for that. And- I mean- ya think she's had to deal with, not just doubters (we all obviously have the right to be doubters, most definitely including tennis players), but a lot of hatred coming her way- stuff that we have and have not seen? I think she had every right to respond as she did in her on court post match interview. And- clichéd as it is to say- since none of us can walk in someone else's shoes and all that....
by ti-amie I didn't think she'd win a Slam for another 2-3 years but that was before her losing early at Wimbledon and hiring Pere Riba and Brad Gilbert. Her entire approach changed and her level of play went way up. Coming into the USO I thought she'd make the semis and lose, maybe. She had a very tough draw.
by ashkor87 A good quote from Pegula - confrms what I have always said : on a slow court, you need power to be able to hit through it - the roof being closed, the heavier balls, made for slow conditions too.. Pegula just isnt that player.. Poised and thoughtful as always, Pegula said afterward: “When it’s a slow hard court and the roof is closed, the ball doesn’t go anywhere for me. I think I have to really over exaggerate being aggressive. That wasn’t something I was able to do today. I think it gave her a lot of time to really set up and go for her shots. She started making them right away. She played great, there’s nothing you can do.”
by ponchi101 You can always make the case for some style of play on any given court. Let's take that slow court.
Sure, Maddie has more power, but Pegula is faster than her. So Pegula could have reached more balls and make Maddie hit one more screamer, and we know how Maddie has a penchant for errors.
Look at the final. For sure, Aryna has more power than Coco (not by much, but she does), but Coco was able to play tough defense because the court was slow, and she waited for Aryna's error. On the same conditions that Jessie faced, because the roof was also closed for the final.
I agree, the courts are too slow. ALL courts are too slow; it has contributed to the demise of Serve and Volley tennis, and the defensive styles we see today. So it would be nice if some attacking players were favored every now and then with a fast court. Let's have Wimbledon be that place (go back to the grass mix of the 80's).
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nelslus .....AND, to conclude, seemingly, the final chapter of Nelslus: The US Open 2023 Saga....Southwest Airlines ended up sending me a $150 voucher- I had requested reimbursement for all of my extra expenses- which came out to $265.79. I mean, clearly, I was not trying to over-do on my expenses. I have a year to use the voucher- which is definitely fair. Their response: "Our records indicate that Flight #2379 was cancelled due to Air Traffic Control (ATC) directives. ATC is vital to the safe operation of all air carriers' flights, including Southwest Airlines. Still, we know that ATC decisions are not necessarily convenient, and we sincerely apologize that your flight was delayed on September 10. We regret your inconvenience and the added expense incurred when your flight was delayed as a result of circumstances beyond our control. In this situation, we do not provide reimbursement for interim expenses, but retaining your future patronage is very important to us. We want to invite you back for a more typical Southwest experience. As a gesture of goodwill, we’ve issued you a $150 Southwest LUV Voucher, which will arrive within the next 10 business days. Instructions for use will be printed on the voucher. It's our hope that you will continue flying Southwest Airlines as it would be our privilege to welcome you onboard for many years to come."
I mean- sure, they apparently only sent out the urgent "Air Traffic Control (ATC) directive" to Southwest Airlines- since plenty of other airlines were flying that day. (AND, OK- I guess it's entirely possible that my info is off, and flights weren't going on from NYC to Chicago that day? But, that doesn't allow me the wiggle room I need to remain Southwest Airlines Grouchy.) BUT- cliché and all- something's better than nothing. I'll use the Voucher From The Damned before the year is up, and MOVING ON, baby!
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