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Re: ATP M1000 Monte Carlo 4/7 - 4/14 2024

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ashkor87 wrote: Sat Apr 13, 2024 3:00 pm I mean I know the score but how?
apparently Sinner was affected by cramps, after which he lost the last 4 games, in a row. He even blamed it on the bad call!
I would not call this a real defeat
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ashkor87 wrote: Sun Apr 14, 2024 5:24 am
ashkor87 wrote: Sat Apr 13, 2024 3:00 pm I mean I know the score but how?
apparently Sinner was affected by cramps, after which he lost the last 4 games, in a row. He even blamed it on the bad call!
I would not call this a real defeat
I was disappointed to hear Sinner say the bad call threw him off to that extent. You have to put that behind you.
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Re: ATP M1000 Monte Carlo 4/7 - 4/14 2024

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meganfernandez wrote: Sun Apr 14, 2024 1:44 pm
ashkor87 wrote: Sun Apr 14, 2024 5:24 am
ashkor87 wrote: Sat Apr 13, 2024 3:00 pm I mean I know the score but how?
apparently Sinner was affected by cramps, after which he lost the last 4 games, in a row. He even blamed it on the bad call!
I would not call this a real defeat
I was disappointed to hear Sinner say the bad call threw him off to that extent. You have to put that behind you.
Data for the mental strength conversation. He seems to have a lot of stamina up there but, if one call can throw you off, that is something you need to work on.
I remember James Blake once saying: I tennis, you need to have a long memory to remember all that has been working well, but a short memory to forget the errors (paraphrasing). That is a tough balance.
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Re: ATP M1000 Monte Carlo 4/7 - 4/14 2024

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ashkor87 wrote: Sun Apr 14, 2024 3:08 am
ponchi101 wrote: Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:43 pm I say Ruud will beat Tsitsipas because he is a modern model of Wilander, and can grind Stefanos on clay.
And about Old Man Time not being the one beating Novak. Sorry; I said it a few years ago. When the big three would start losing, it would be because of time, not because of somebody raising his level. That is the sole thing happening right now.
I dont think Ruud can beat Tsitsipas.. and on the other point, we are not disagreeing, I may have put it badly but I am saying the same thing - that I dont think age will be a factor here between the two finalists, which it was in the semis.
Well, you got it completely right. Not even close (the final).
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ashkor87 wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2024 7:55 am what accounts for Djokovic's poor performance at MC? (he has won it 'only' twice! - everything else at least three time)..
could it be that he is a champion on all surfaces so always took hard courts seriously too - and had just completed a hard couts swing, usually, before coming to MC - maybe a bit tired, maybe a bit unused to clay? Monte Carlo was always the first clay court event.. this year has been a different path for him, maybe it will make him more successful here! Threepeat?!
Let's flip this one.
What accounts for Tsitsipas great MC record? A three time winner that has not won any other MS1000 (he has made 7 finals). Now, this one is odd. If it were random, you could say that he would win 2. But three in four years? That is a huge spike.
Something about MC really, really pleases him.
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Very true...there is some weak evidence that MC is the fastest of the clay courts...also possible he doesn't do much on hard courts like IW and Miami so he is always fresh..?
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Maybe his mother inspires him! It seems she won this event 40 years ago...don't remember all that...
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Wasn't MC actually the slowest? Or that goes to Rome?
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Suliso wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 5:21 pm Wasn't MC actually the slowest? Or that goes to Rome?
I read the Rome plays the most like RG?
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In the 1990s and early 2000s, Monte Carlo was the one they said played the most like Roland Garros. Federer never came close to beating Nadal there, just as he never did in Paris, but he was two points away from beating him in Rome in 2006, and that was in a five-set match.

The results in Rome used to sometimes favor fast-court players. Sampras cruised to the title in 1996, beating Becker in the final, and he never really threatened at Roland Garros, losing in straight sets to Kafelnikov the only time he reached the semis.

But conditions certainly could have changed since then.
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