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Re: ATP M1000 Monte Carlo 4/7 - 4/14 2024
Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2024 8:27 pm
by ti-amie
I thought that Nagal would be out in straight sets too. If you get a chance to see a replay you can see he ran out of ideas before he ran out of gas in the third set. Still he got to test himself against a top player.
Re: ATP M1000 Monte Carlo 4/7 - 4/14 2024
Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2024 8:39 pm
by ti-amie
Fri, 12 April, 2024 (Day 7)
COURT RAINIER III 11:00
[12] S. Tsitsipas (GRE) vs [15] K. Khachanov
Singles - Quarter-final
Not Before 1:00 p.m.
[7] H. Rune (DEN) vs [2] J. Sinner (ITA)
Singles - Quarter-final
Followed by
[1] N. Djokovic (SRB) vs [11] A. de Minaur (AUS)
Singles - Quarter-final
Followed by
[14] U. Humbert (FRA) vs [8] C. Ruud (NOR)
Singles - Quarter-final
COURT DES PRINCES 11:00
[6] K. Krawietz (GER) / T. Puetz (GER) vs S. Gille (BEL) / J. Vliegen (BEL)
Doubles - Quarter-final
Followed by
N. Mahut (FRA) / E. Roger-Vasselin (FRA) vs [3] M. Granollers (ESP) / H. Zeballos (ARG)
Doubles - Quarter-final
Followed by
M. Arevalo (ESA) / M. Pavic (CRO) vs S. Bolelli (ITA) / A. Vavassori (ITA)
Doubles - Quarter-final
Followed by
[Alt] M. Melo (BRA) / A. Zverev (GER) vs T. Fritz (USA) / H. Rune (DEN)
Doubles - Quarter-final
Re: ATP M1000 Monte Carlo 4/7 - 4/14 2024
Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2024 1:35 am
by ponchi101
ashkor87 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 10, 2024 7:55 am
what accounts for Djokovic's poor performance at MC? (he has won it 'only' twice! - everything else at least three time)..
could it be that he is a champion on all surfaces so always took hard courts seriously too - and had just completed a hard couts swing, usually, before coming to MC - maybe a bit tired, maybe a bit unused to clay? Monte Carlo was always the first clay court event.. this year has been a different path for him, maybe it will make him more successful here! Threepeat?!
One final thought on this.
It is also that there has got to be one tournament at which he has done worse than all others. He cannot win them all evenly. There has got to be one tournament where he has done his best, and one where he has done his worse.
Simple stats.
Re: ATP M1000 Monte Carlo 4/7 - 4/14 2024
Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2024 1:38 am
by ashkor87
ponchi101 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2024 1:35 am
ashkor87 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 10, 2024 7:55 am
what accounts for Djokovic's poor performance at MC? (he has won it 'only' twice! - everything else at least three time)..
could it be that he is a champion on all surfaces so always took hard courts seriously too - and had just completed a hard couts swing, usually, before coming to MC - maybe a bit tired, maybe a bit unused to clay? Monte Carlo was always the first clay court event.. this year has been a different path for him, maybe it will make him more successful here! Threepeat?!
One final thought on this.
It is also that there has got to be one tournament at which he has done worse than all others. He cannot win them all evenly. There has got to be one tournament where he has done his best, and one where he has done his worse.
Simple stats.
true.. by definition.. good point. the strange thing is that it is his 'home' tournament..
Re: ATP M1000 Monte Carlo 4/7 - 4/14 2024
Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2024 1:40 am
by JTContinental
ti-amie wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2024 8:27 pm
I thought that Nagal would be out in straight sets too. If you get a chance to see a replay you can see he ran out of ideas before he ran out of gas in the third set. Still he got to test himself against a top player.
I read he is the first Indian player to win a match on clay at a Masters event.
Re: ATP M1000 Monte Carlo 4/7 - 4/14 2024
Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2024 3:19 am
by ashkor87
JTContinental wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2024 1:40 am
ti-amie wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2024 8:27 pm
I thought that Nagal would be out in straight sets too. If you get a chance to see a replay you can see he ran out of ideas before he ran out of gas in the third set. Still he got to test himself against a top player.
I read he is the first Indian player to win a match on clay at a Masters event.
True but that is only because Masters events are a recent definition..Krishnan (both father and son) have won entire tournaments on clay ..
Re: ATP M1000 Monte Carlo 4/7 - 4/14 2024
Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2024 8:13 pm
by ti-amie
Sat, 13 April, 2024 (Day 8)
Court Rainier III
Starts at 11:00 am
SF
M. Granollers/H. Zeballos (3) Vs S. Gille/J. Vliegen
Not Before 1:30 pm
SF
S. Tsitsipas (12) Vs (2) J. Sinner
Not Before 3:30 pm
SF
N. Djokovic (1) Vs (8) C. Ruud
Followed By
SF
M. Arevalo/M. Pavic Vs (Alt) M. Melo/A. Zverev
Re: ATP M1000 Monte Carlo 4/7 - 4/14 2024
Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2024 10:29 pm
by Fastbackss
The "singles teams" acquitted themselves decently in the doubles draw.
Re: ATP M1000 Monte Carlo 4/7 - 4/14 2024
Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2024 12:04 am
by ti-amie
I knew he was upset about something but I had the sound off...
Re: ATP M1000 Monte Carlo 4/7 - 4/14 2024
Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2024 3:29 am
by ashkor87
Tsitsi vs Sinner next...the AI says Sinner has 74% chance...I would put it at 50....Tsitsi has real creds on clay, Sinner doesn't...
Re: ATP M1000 Monte Carlo 4/7 - 4/14 2024
Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2024 8:25 am
by ashkor87
And Djokovic at less than 70% against Ruud..I would think it should be more than 90...wonder where the data comes from..has Ruud ever beaten Djokovic?
Re: ATP M1000 Monte Carlo 4/7 - 4/14 2024
Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2024 8:45 am
by Suliso
ashkor87 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2024 3:29 am
Tsitsi vs Sinner next...the AI says Sinner has 74% chance...I would put it at 50....Tsitsi has real creds on clay, Sinner doesn't...
He doesn't yet, but still 70% sounds about right. Big difference in class and recent form.
Re: ATP M1000 Monte Carlo 4/7 - 4/14 2024
Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2024 10:23 am
by ashkor87
i just checked.. Ruud hasnt even taken a set off Djokovic in 5 matches...
Re: ATP M1000 Monte Carlo 4/7 - 4/14 2024
Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2024 12:06 pm
by ashkor87
watching MonteCarlo.. everyone seems to be wearing white except the players! Must be hot?
Re: ATP M1000 Monte Carlo 4/7 - 4/14 2024
Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2024 1:43 pm
by ashkor87
Sinner's serve making the difference...