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MS 1000 vs Silver medal

Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2024 5:47 pm
by mick1303
What is more important for player's resume:
- MS 1000 title
OR
- Olympic silver medal

Re: MS 1000 vs Silver medal

Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2024 9:16 pm
by ponchi101
MS 1000 at Monte Carlo (lots of tradition): More than Olympic gold.
MS 1000 Rome. The same.
And I will throw in the MS 1000 at Canada. The third oldest tournament in the world, if you count it as the Canadian Open.
And look at the draw at the Olympics. Novak drew Mathew Ebden for 1R. Which would never happen at a 1000.

Re: MS 1000 vs Silver medal

Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2024 12:42 am
by ashkor87
Unfortunately nobody remembers silver medalists!

Re: MS 1000 vs Silver medal

Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2024 1:54 am
by ti-amie
TBH I can't decide.
For some countries merely medalling makes you an Olympic hero/heroine.

That said I'm leaning towards the MS 1000 for tennis.

Re: MS 1000 vs Silver medal

Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2024 2:58 pm
by skatingfan
I think at the end of a career people will care more about an Olympic medal than a tennis trophy from a regular tour event.

Re: MS 1000 vs Silver medal

Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2024 3:41 pm
by ashkor87
skatingfan wrote: Sat Aug 10, 2024 2:58 pm I think at the end of a career people will care more about an Olympic medal than a tennis trophy from a regular tour event.
Good point ..but which people? Tennis fans or the rest? I think tennis fans care more about a 1000 event than silver medalist but the rest of the world? I don't know (not being part of that group)

Re: MS 1000 vs Silver medal

Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2024 5:53 pm
by Jeff from TX
Medalist if you are from a non-Olympic powerhouse for prestige, but economically, the MS 1000 victory. The cash and points are probably more important if the player doesn't have a lot of endorsement opportunities.

Re: MS 1000 vs Silver medal

Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2024 6:21 pm
by skatingfan
Jeff from TX wrote: Sat Aug 10, 2024 5:53 pm Medalist if you are from a non-Olympic powerhouse for prestige, but economically, the MS 1000 victory. The cash and points are probably more important if the player doesn't have a lot of endorsement opportunities.
I wouldn't underestimate the value of an Olympic medal - particularly to an athlete from a small country.

Re: MS 1000 vs Silver medal

Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2024 6:22 pm
by skatingfan
ashkor87 wrote: Sat Aug 10, 2024 3:41 pm Good point ..but which people? Tennis fans or the rest? I think tennis fans care more about a 1000 event than silver medalist but the rest of the world? I don't know (not being part of that group)
The people who win them - who cares what anyone else thinks.

Re: MS 1000 vs Silver medal

Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2024 8:34 pm
by ti-amie
skatingfan wrote: Sat Aug 10, 2024 6:21 pm
Jeff from TX wrote: Sat Aug 10, 2024 5:53 pm Medalist if you are from a non-Olympic powerhouse for prestige, but economically, the MS 1000 victory. The cash and points are probably more important if the player doesn't have a lot of endorsement opportunities.
I wouldn't underestimate the value of an Olympic medal - particularly to an athlete from a small country.
Fentuo Tahiru Fentuo
@Fentuo_
For winning Gold in the men’s 200m, this is what Tebogo is getting.

1. A 4 bedroom house from the Botswana Government
2. 1 million Pula ($75,000) from a local company
3. $3,600 for reaching the final of the 100m and 200m
4. National Holiday on his name
5. Overall, he’s expected to get cash rewards from various institutions to the tune of $260,000

The 4x400m team has also been promised houses if they medal. Tebogo could get a second house if he helps them to the podium. #Pari

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Re: MS 1000 vs Silver medal

Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2024 8:43 pm
by ti-amie
Cash, condo and ramen for Philippine double gold gymnast

Kelly Ng
BBC News

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Carlos Yulo scooped up gold in the men's floor exercise and vault finals, making history for the Philippines
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Filipino gymnast Carlos Yulo won his second Olympic gold medal in two days, becoming only the second athlete to take home the Games' top prize for his country.

A three-bedroom condo, thousands of dollars and a lifetime of free ramen are among the flurry of gifts that the government and local brands have pledged to reward the 24-year-old with for his historic wins in the men's floor exercise and vault events.

Mr Yulo's feat has also made him the country's latest social media sensation.

“Another gold for the Philippines! History is made again! Ang galing galing mo! [You are incredible!]” wrote a user on X.

Mr Yulo scored an average of 15.116 on the vault on Sunday, ahead of Armenia's Artur Davtyan (14.966) and Britain's Harry Hepworth (14.949).

He punched his arms into the air and embraced fellow athletes on hearing his score. He went into the competition without high expectations, he had told reporters.

"I was just hoping to perform well. I didn't really expect a medal," Mr Yulo had said.

"It really felt like a bonus for me. It's crazy, because last night I couldn't sleep. I was so hyped because I had won that gold medal [the day before].

Barely 24 hours ago, Mr Yulo had scooped the gold for the men's floor exercise with 15 points, edging out Artem Dolgopyat of Israel by just 0.034 of a point. Mr Dolgopyat had been the defending Olympic champion and world title holder.

Mr Yulo's double gold feat is now the most discussed topic on X, formerly known as Twitter, in the Philippines.

“It took 100 years for us to hear Lupang Hinirang [the Philippines' national anthem] two nights in a row while the world is watching. Thank you so much for the pride and historic moment!" wrote an X user.
A century has passed since the Philippines' debut in the Olympics in 1924. Weightlifter Hidilyn Diaz earned the country's first Olympic gold medal in Tokyo three years ago.

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The Philippine government and local brands are showering Mr Yulo with a flurry of gifts for his double gold feat

Philippine celebrities and public figures, including president Ferdinand Marcos Jr and First Lady Liza Araneta-Marcos, also congratulated Mr Yulo.

"No words can express how proud we are of you, Caloy. You have achieved GOLD for the Philippines not once, but twice! Filipinos all over the world stood united, cheering and rooting for you," Mr Marcos wrote on Facebook.

The Philippine government will hand the gymnast 10 million Philippine pesos ($173,300; £135,400) - a reward promised to any gold medalists - while a real estate firm has promised him a fully furnished three-bedroom unit at McKinley Hill, the largest condominium development in metropolitan Manila.
The House of Representatives has pledged to give Mr Yulo an additional 6 million pesos in cash incentives, with speaker of the lower house, Ferdinand Martin Romualdez, describing him as a “sports hero” and “national treasure”.

Even medical clinics and universities have rolled out the red carpet for the national hero - a gastroenterologist has offered Mr Yulo free consultations and colonoscopies for life while the University of Mindanao has pledged free university credits.

Also awaiting him are lifetime supplies of ramen, mac and cheese and grilled chicken offered by various restaurant chains.

Meanwhile, the capital city Manila, where Mr Yulo was born and raised, is preparing a "hero's welcome" for him.

“The grandest welcome will greet him and all our Paris Olympians. When we meet him, we will present Carlos Yulo cash incentives, awards and symbols of the eternal gratitude of the proud capital city of the Philippines,” the city's mayor, Honey Lacuna, said.

Additional reporting by Virma Simonette in Manila

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c99ww9pzgrvo

Re: MS 1000 vs Silver medal

Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2024 12:01 am
by skatingfan
ti-amie wrote: Sat Aug 10, 2024 8:34 pm Fentuo Tahiru Fentuo
@Fentuo_
For winning Gold in the men’s 200m, this is what Tebogo is getting.

1. A 4 bedroom house from the Botswana Government
2. 1 million Pula ($75,000) from a local company
3. $3,600 for reaching the final of the 100m and 200m
4. National Holiday on his name
5. Overall, he’s expected to get cash rewards from various institutions to the tune of $260,000

The 4x400m team has also been promised houses if they medal. Tebogo could get a second house if he helps them to the podium. #Pari

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The 4 x 400 m relay team finished a close 2nd to the US in the final - silver medal homes for everyone.

Re: MS 1000 vs Silver medal

Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2024 1:32 am
by JTContinental
ashkor87 wrote: Sat Aug 10, 2024 12:42 am Unfortunately nobody remembers silver medalists!

Off the top of my head:

Roger Federer
Mardy Fish
Tommy Haas
Juan Martin del Potro
Maria Sharapova
Angelique Kerber
Amelie Mauresmo
Elena Dementieva

Now, I hope all of these are right :D!

Re: MS 1000 vs Silver medal

Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2024 3:03 am
by ashkor87
An impressive list!

But I didn't remember ...

Re: MS 1000 vs Silver medal

Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2024 3:56 am
by nelslus
JTContinental wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2024 1:32 am
ashkor87 wrote: Sat Aug 10, 2024 12:42 am Unfortunately nobody remembers silver medalists!

Off the top of my head:

Roger Federer
Mardy Fish
Tommy Haas
Juan Martin del Potro
Maria Sharapova
Angelique Kerber
Amelie Mauresmo
Elena Dementieva

Now, I hope all of these are right :D!
Uhhhhh.....Dementieva got a Gold medal AND a Silver medal at the Olympics in singles. :gorgeous: