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Where does Fed end up Monday morning? Out of top 10 for sure, but does he stay in top 15/20?

the Moz wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 4:36 pm Where does Fed end up Monday morning? Out of top 10 for sure, but does he stay in top 15/20?

For the moment in the live rankings sites, Roger is still at #9- down just one spot. https://live-tennis.eu/en/atp-live-ranking

He'll stay in the top 10. The WTA is starting to get much closer to reality with their rankings, but ATP's approach means we've got more time with certain propped up rankings. Federer's strong 2019 will keep him afloat for a while. Keeping 50% of that IW Finals, Miami Win, and Wimbledon Finals I think are the most significant ones and I don't think they come off anytime in 2021 so he'll only fall so far right now.

He'd have gotten a protected ranking in a regular year anyway, so this probably isn't as far off as it seems in terms of getting seeded.

Career Slam stats for the Big 3 after Wimbledon:

Federer: 20 W, 11 F, 15 SF, 12 QF, 11 4R
Djokovic: 20 W, 10 F, 11 SF, 9 QF, 5 4R
Nadal: 20 W, 8 F, 7 SF, 9 QF, 6 4R

Just for fun, if we calculate total points earned in each player's top 50 Slams, we get this:

Federer: 65,440
Djokovic: 63,160
Nadal: 58,960

Makes me wonder - has anyone tried putting together a list of career rankings based on points?

Problem is that the method for calculating ranking points change from time to time...

varactor wrote: ↑Sun Jul 11, 2021 6:09 pm Career Slam stats for the Big 3 after Wimbledon:

Federer: 20 W, 11 F, 15 SF, 12 QF, 11 4R
Djokovic: 20 W, 10 F, 11 SF, 9 QF, 5 4R
Nadal: 20 W, 8 F, 7 SF, 9 QF, 6 4R

Just for fun, if we calculate total points earned in each player's top 50 Slams, we get this:

Federer: 65,440
Djokovic: 63,160
Nadal: 58,960

Makes me wonder - has anyone tried putting together a list of career rankings based on points?

You can start by adding the 36,000 points both Nole and Rafa have from MS1000's, and 28,000 points for Roger.
But the rest of the points would be a major labor of love.

Suliso wrote: ↑Sun Jul 11, 2021 6:17 pm Problem is that the method for calculating ranking points change from time to time...

What I did for weighted ranking calculation (viewtopic.php?f=17&t=483&p=23102#p23102) - I was using Grand Slam points as a measuring stick. And of course considered them as a constant throughout. All other tournaments have point distribution related to the slams. This way you can at least seamlessly compare pre-2009 time with modern (after 2008 point distribution doubled, but I left it as it was - 1000 points for slam win, 600 point for runner-up and further down with 60% deprecation each round). With 70s and 80s it becomes increasingly tricky...

When do WTA rankings change again? Andrescu never seems to budge - what results are keeping her in the top ten? I should be able to look this up but I'm sure some of y'all can provide the answer quicker and more succinctly. Thanks!

Jeff from TX wrote: ↑Thu Aug 19, 2021 5:14 am When do WTA rankings change again? Andrescu never seems to budge - what results are keeping her in the top ten? I should be able to look this up but I'm sure some of y'all can provide the answer quicker and more succinctly. Thanks!

The 2019 US Open & 2019 Indian Wells.

skatingfan wrote: ↑Thu Aug 19, 2021 6:35 am

Jeff from TX wrote: ↑Thu Aug 19, 2021 5:14 am When do WTA rankings change again? Andrescu never seems to budge - what results are keeping her in the top ten? I should be able to look this up but I'm sure some of y'all can provide the answer quicker and more succinctly. Thanks!

The 2019 US Open & 2019 Indian Wells.

Those points will be replaced with the points from the 2021 US Open and 2021 Indian Wells (scheduled for October).

The WTA has fixed its site and you can now see rankings. "Technical difficulties" prevented this earlier in the week.

ti-amie wrote: ↑Thu Aug 19, 2021 4:52 pm The WTA has fixed its site and you can now see rankings. "Technical difficulties" prevented this earlier in the week.

And I was only partly right. They've posted the pre Canadian Open rankings. I found a site with live rankings that is said to be more accurate. I would make sure all of my virus and ad blocking software is up to date though.

https://live-tennis.eu/en/wta-live-ranking

The Boiled Egg is reporting that the woman who did the rankings work for the WTA, Grace Dowling, isn't working for them anymore. Remember when they decided not to reup with TennisTV because they were going to provide their own streaming platform and the s**tshow that followed?