by dave g Congratulations to the 21 players surviving all the way to the third round and the updated results thread.

Bankerb4 DAVIDOVICH FOKINA Alejandro FRITZ Taylor KARATSEV Aslan RUUD Casper SINNER Jannik GARIN Cristian BERRETTINI Matteo ZVEREV Alexander SCHWARTZMAN Diego MEDVEDEV Daniil
Casperpod Garin Ruud KARATSEV DAVIDOVICH FOKINA SINNER CARRENO BUSTA BERRETTINI Medvedev SCHWARTZMAN ZVEREV
dave g Carreno Busta Ruud Karatsev Fognini Musetti Garin Sinner Medvedev Schwartzman Zverev
Deelighted2 DAVIDOVICH FOKINA FRITZ BEDENE Aljaz CARRENO BUSTA SCHWARTZMAN FOGNINI
Elchie NISHIKORI Kei KOEPFER Dominik GER CECCHINATO Marco ITA DAVIDOVICH FOKINA Alejandro ESP SCHWARTZMAN Diego ARG [10] CARRENO BUSTA Pablo BERRETTINI Matteo ITA [9] MEDVEDEV Daniil STRUFF Jan-Lennard
Esquared88 Nishikori Krajinovic Gasquet Davidovich Fokina Sinner Garin Berrettini Medvedev Schwartzman Zverev
Federex DAVIDOVICH FOKINA KOEPFER Dominik CECCHINATO CARRENO BUSTA SINNER GARIN BERRETTINI MEDVEDEV SCHWARTZMAN ZVEREV
Gunner NISHIKORI Kei JPN PAUL Tommy USA CECCHINATO Marco ITA GARIN Cristian STRUFF Jan-Lennard GER CARRENO BUSTA Pablo ESP [12] BERRETTINI Matteo ITA [9] MEDVEDEV Daniil SCHWARTZMAN Diego ZVEREV Alexander GER [6]
Hoangers DAVIDOVICH FOKINA Alejandro Sinner Karatsev Aslan CARRENO BUSTA Pablo SCHWARTZMAN Diego RUUD Casper
Jatagen Nishikori Paul Cecchinato DAVIDOVICH FOKINA SCHWARTZMAN Garin Sinner Medvedev struff
Jeff from TX Carreno Busta Paul Cecchinato DAVIDOVICH FOKINA Alejandro Schwartzman Diego Garin Cristian Sinner Medvedev Struff
Jumpfroggy DAVIDOVICH FOKINA Alejandro DELBONIS BEDENE Aljaz CARRENO BUSTA MUSETTI GARIN SINNER MEDVEDEV SCHWARTZMAN ZVEREV
Karlovicfanclub Nishikori Alcaraz Cecchinato Davidovich Fokina Norrie Garin Sinner Medvedev Schwartzman Zverev
Lauriejo NISHIKORI Kei OPELKA Reilly KARATSEV Aslan DAVIDOVICH FOKINA Alejandro SINNER Jannik ITA RUUD Casper
Liamvalid Fognini Isner Cuevas Carreno Busta Federer NISHIKORI Kei Sinner Davidovich Fokina Schwartzman Zverev
Nycguy2662 Nishikori KOEPFER KARATSEV DAVIDOVICH FOKINA Sinner GARIN Federer DELBONIS
Patmanmo Nishikori Koepfer Dominik Karatsev Aslan DAVIDOVICH FOKINA Alejandro Sinner Jannik CARRENO BUSTA Pablo Berrettini Matteo Tsitsipas Stefanos Schwartzman Diego Zverev Alexander
Sdduck1097 Nishikori Paul Cecchinato Carreno Busta Sinner Nishikori Berretinni Tsitsipas
Sh79 Nishikori Kei Munar Jaume CECCHINATO Marco DAVIDOVICH FOKINA Alejandro SINNER Jannik CARRENO BUSTA Pablo SCHWARTZMAN Diego MEDVEDEV Daniil STRUFF JAN-Lennard
Slamdog Nishikori Kei Isner John Karatsev A Carreno-Busta Sinner Fognini
Weefunk Nishikori MAJCHRZAK Kamil CECCHINATO Marco DAVIDOVICH FOKINA Alejandro SINNER Jannik GARIN Cristian BERRETTINI Matteo MEDVEDEV Daniil SCHWARTZMAN Diego ZVEREV Alexander

by dave g Day 6 Pick Summary

Start: 21
No Picks: 0

Carreno Busta 5
Fognini 2
Garin 10
Nishikori 2
Ruud 2

Dead: 4
Survivors: 17

by hoangers I was so excited to have made it to the updated thread. Only to see that Ruud (my pick) lost today! So sad . See you next time guys! Best of luck to the rest of you!

by dave g Day 7 Pick Summary
Start: 17
No Picks: 0

Berettini 9
Federer 1
Schwartzman 1
Sinner 6

Dead: 0
Survivors: 17

Congratulations on not having anybody die.
Consider how the tournament has been going, this is a major surprise.

by dave g I suspect that everyone will survive today.

by Liamvalid Hypothetical question as I will probably go out with my Fokina pick today. But I picked Federer in early round, and have saved Berrettini as I expected them to meet in their part of the draw and I was going to pick Berrettini to win. So if Roger withdraws as he is insinuating he will, is that match still available to pick as I will still have Berrettini in play, or will we be forced to pick from another match?

by dave g

Liamvalid wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 10:54 am Hypothetical question as I will probably go out with my Fokina pick today. But I picked Federer in early round, and have saved Berrettini as I expected them to meet in their part of the draw and I was going to pick Berrettini to win. So if Roger withdraws as he is insinuating he will, is that match still available to pick as I will still have Berrettini in play, or will we be forced to pick from another match?

To be honest, I really don't know. I haven't encountered this situation before. I sent a message to someone with more experience with suicide draw pools. When I get the response, I'll let people know.

by dave g Day 8 Pick Summary
Start: 17
No Picks: 0

Davidovich Fokina 1
Delbonis 1
Medvedev 12
Tsitsipas 2
Zverev 1

Minimum Death: 1 Davidovich Fokina is playing Delbonis

New Dead: 1
Old Dead: 1 (repeated pick)

Surviving 15

by dave g

dave g wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 11:06 am

Liamvalid wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 10:54 am Hypothetical question as I will probably go out with my Fokina pick today. But I picked Federer in early round, and have saved Berrettini as I expected them to meet in their part of the draw and I was going to pick Berrettini to win. So if Roger withdraws as he is insinuating he will, is that match still available to pick as I will still have Berrettini in play, or will we be forced to pick from another match?

To be honest, I really don't know. I haven't encountered this situation before. I sent a message to someone with more experience with suicide draw pools. When I get the response, I'll let people know.

Here is the answer I got:
"If the player withdraws, the match is not pickable. If he withdraws after you start the thread but before play starts on that day, players choosing from that match would be responsible for changing their pick. If he withdraws after play starts, those picking Federer would be eliminated and the Berrettini pickers would advance."

by Suliso In the past in such situations Berrettini would not be available.

by Liamvalid Thanks all. I have been on the wrong end of withdrawals so many times before, I was hoping that for once it might play in my favour. Looks like these things really are designed to torture us!

by Liamvalid On another note, I’m surprised at the amount of Medvedev pickers. After watching Garin a few times recently I’d pick him if I had to pick from that match

by ashkor87 Now Federer should be fined! maybe made to do an extra press conference! can he be allowed to treat the FO like a practice event?

by weefunk I was hoping Schwartzman would lose tomorrow, we would all pick him, and all be co-winners after Day 9. But alas, four players have already used him, so they'll have to select someone else.

by dave g Day 9 pick summary
Start: 15
No Picks: 0

Schwartzman 11
Struff 4

Dead 4
Survivors 11

by Liamvalid Interesting. When I read there were 4 who had already used Schwartzman, I was waiting to see if those 4 were going to use Djokovic or Nadal instead-didn’t consider that they might pick Struff but it looks like it might be the right pick

by dave g If Musetti manages to be Djokovic, this could turn this contest into a mess. Winning might depend on having saved Musetti.

by dave g Also, we (surviving ATP pickers) finally outnumber the surviving WTA pickers.

by Liamvalid

dave g wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:49 pm If Musetti manages to be Djokovic, this could turn this contest into a mess. Winning might depend on having saved Musetti.

I saved Berrettini to beat Federer, so could still use him against Musetti if he wins. I still have Musetti in play too though!

by dave g Day 10 Pick Summary
Start: 11
No Picks : 0

Medvedev 1
Zverev 10

Dead: 1
Surviving: 10

by karlovicfanclub

dave g wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 1:15 pm Day 10 Pick Summary
Start: 11
No Picks : 0

Medvedev 1
Zverev 10

So if Zverev loses, we will have our winner. Since I'm one of the Zverev pickers, I hope that's not the case!

by Liamvalid

karlovicfanclub wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 3:48 pm

dave g wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 1:15 pm Day 10 Pick Summary
Start: 11
No Picks : 0

Medvedev 1
Zverev 10

So if Zverev loses, we will have our winner. Since I'm one of the Zverev pickers, I hope that's not the case!

Not unless Zverev loses and Medvedev also loses, then we all win!

by weefunk

Liamvalid wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 4:17 pm

karlovicfanclub wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 3:48 pm

dave g wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 1:15 pm Day 10 Pick Summary
Start: 11
No Picks : 0

Medvedev 1
Zverev 10

So if Zverev loses, we will have our winner. Since I'm one of the Zverev pickers, I hope that's not the case!

Not unless Zverev loses and Medvedev also loses, then we all win!

I was kind of hoping for this, because I'm not as certain in my picks going forward. But Sasha just won, so I'll have to take my chances.

by Suliso Somebody will beat the draw now. Djokovic-Tsitsipas/Medvedev-Nadal sequence is likely to do it if still available.

by dave g Day 10 Pick Summary
Start: 10
No Picks: 0

Djokovic: 10

We all either survive together or die together.

We all survived.

by dave g Semifinal Pick Summary
Start: 10
No Picks: 0

Tsitsipas 9
Nadal 1

by dave g This is the end of the ATP Suicide Draw Pool. While there are nine survivors of the semifinals, none of us have a pick left for the finals. So, its all over.