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:lol:

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I was today years old when I found out someone named Andrew Tate is something of an internet sensation. He will now, thanks to Greta Thunberg, be the reason behind the Tweet of the Year.

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ti-amie wrote: Wed Dec 28, 2022 8:22 pm I was today years old when I found out someone named Andrew Tate is something of an internet sensation. He will now, thanks to Greta Thunberg, be the reason behind the Tweet of the Year.

Thanks Greta, He needed that.
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So apparently this Andrew Tate guy is a self proclaimed expert on masculinity. That said this happened today.



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ti-amie wrote: Thu Dec 29, 2022 8:20 pm So apparently this Andrew Tate guy is a self proclaimed expert on masculinity.
That's called a red flag...
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dryrunguy wrote: Fri Dec 30, 2022 12:26 am
ti-amie wrote: Thu Dec 29, 2022 8:20 pm So apparently this Andrew Tate guy is a self proclaimed expert on masculinity.
That's called a red flag...
I know I am in the minority here, but, exactly.
Real men don't go around proclaiming they are a real man. It is called "insecurity".
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I wish the fantasies of what these toxic men think women do to men (nag, whine, emasculate, take) would come true for themselves.
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I had never heard of him.
And I appreciate that his bravado (in posting AT her, and then in response to her) is what got him arrested.

PS - the descriptions from his website of his "empire" of webcam models and how they become them is vulgar at best
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Who is Andrew Tate, ‘king of toxic masculinity,’ accused of trafficking?
By Timothy Bella
December 30, 2022 at 4:11 p.m. EST

Long before he was the butt of a viral joke from climate activist Greta Thunberg or accused of human trafficking, Andrew Tate claimed he was bored growing up.

As a child, his boredom was occupied by chess in the hope of following his dad’s footsteps as a great player because, he once said, “that’s the only thing I want to do most.” When he got bored with defeating adults, he turned to kickboxing, laying to waste opponents throughout Europe. And when he got bored with physical combat, he turned to verbal assault, becoming a men’s rights influencer known for his extreme misogynistic, violent remarks against women. He went on to build online followings in the millions from the darkest corners of the web, making him one of the most watched personalities on social media by his mid-30s.

The U.S.-born Tate, who along with his brother Tristan was arrested in Romania on Thursday and charged with human trafficking and forming an organized-crime group, is a self-described misogynist and sexist who has been dubbed “the scariest man on the internet” by critics and “the king of toxic masculinity” by fans. (A lawyer for the Tates could not immediately be identified Friday.)

The former kickboxing champion is known for his attacks against women — whether it’s saying that women who are sexually assaulted need to shoulder “some responsibility,” claiming that women are “given to the man and belong to the man” or noting in online videos that he dates women who are 18 and 19 because he can “make an imprint” on them.

“I’m not a rapist, but I like the idea of just being able to do what I want,” he once said in one of his videos about why he moved from England to Romania, according to Sky News, adding that “probably 40 percent of the reason” he moved to the country was because it might be easier to evade rape charges. “I like being free.” In another video, he described how he would react if a woman accused him of cheating, saying, “It’s bang out the machete, boom in her face and grip her by the neck.”


Tate, 36, who has portrayed himself as a self-help expert for men and was regularly photographed smoking cigars in front of fast cars and guns, has seen his profile rise after chats with far-right figures such as Alex Jones and Mike Cernovich. He largely gained attention on TikTok — one of the many platforms that has now banned him for his repeated misogynistic remarks — where videos tagged #AndrewTate were viewed roughly 13 billion times as of August, according to NBC News. In July, Tate’s name was a bigger search term on Google than some of the search engine’s most significant queries, including former president Donald Trump, Kim Kardashian and covid-19, Forbes reported.

Days after Tate’s back-and-forth with Thunberg dominated Twitter, he now finds himself detained by a Romanian anti-organized-crime unit that is seeking authorization from a judge to hold Tate, his brother and two Romanian suspects for up to 30 days, a spokesperson for the Romanian prosecutor’s office told The Washington Post. One person also was charged with rape, but the spokesperson would not identify that person, citing local laws.

Romanian prosecutors said in a statement that they identified six people who they allege were recruited and then sexually abused in Ilfov county, which surrounds the capital, Bucharest. Authorities say the victims were coerced into participating in pornography for distribution on social media and that one of the suspects twice raped a victim in March. The statement, which did not name the Tate brothers, alleges that the victims faced “acts of physical violence and mental coercion.”

While many have been aware of Tate and his social media rise, millions are coming to his story for the first time.

Born in December 1986 in the Washington region, according to a video he posted in July, Emory Andrew Tate III is the son of a chess master father and a catering assistant mother. After the family moved to Chicago and Goshen, Ind., his parents divorced, and Tate and his brother moved with their mother to Luton, her hometown in England. Tate stayed connected to his father through chess, a game he learned to play when he was 5, competing against adults.

“I know that I’m in the position to turn Andrew into a Bobby Fischer, but it’s a common-sense dilemma,” his father, Emory A. Tate Jr., the top-ranked chess player in Indiana at the time, told the South Bend Tribune in 1993, noting the lack of financial stability in becoming a chess master. While his father told the Tribune that he wished his son would pursue other interests, Tate said that he played so much because he was “bored all the time and that’s the only thing I want to do most."


He later got into the world of kickboxing, where he became one of the most decorated light-heavyweight fighters in the world. Videos of his fights are listed under titles such as “Prime Andrew Tate Was An Absolute Beast!” After a brief run in mixed martial arts, he retired from combat sports.

He was bored again.

His next chapter amplified his notoriety and criticism of his treatment of women. In 2016, Tate appeared as a housemate on the 17th season of “Big Brother” in the United Kingdom. He was kicked off the reality television show after a video surfaced that appeared to show him hitting a woman with a belt. (Tate and the woman in the video said what occurred was consensual sex, according to the BBC.)

From there, fans of the show discovered past tweets in which Tate used homophobic and racial slurs at users. The string of controversial behavior continued in 2017, when he falsely asserted that depression “isn’t real.”

Tate was denounced by critics and advocacy groups who said his mere presence on social media, and the following he was developing for his “extremely misogynistic” remarks, could present a “dangerous slip road into the far right.” At the same time, he was promoting an online marketing program for a monthly membership of $49.99 that claimed he could give people “high-income skill development.” (“Hustler’s University,” which one marketing professor likened to a social media pyramid scheme, shut down this year, despite having about 127,000 members, according to the Guardian.)

As backlash mounted, platforms took action against Tate this year. He was banned from Facebook and Instagram after violating Meta’s policy on “dangerous organizations and individuals,” NBC reported. TikTok, the platform where he grew his audience the most, also kicked him off for promoting content, the company says, “that attacks, threatens, incites violence against, or otherwise dehumanizes an individual or a group.” YouTube suspended him for hate speech and covid misinformation after he amassed millions of dollars in ad revenue.

But on Twitter, his ban was lifted last month as part of new owner Elon Musk’s changes that reinstated far-right firebrands. Tate’s return to the platform set up the online confrontation with Thunberg, in which Tate tweeted that he wanted to send the climate activist “a complete list of my car collection and their respective enormous emissions.”


When Thunberg trolled him in a tweet that’s been viewed more than 259 million times since it was posted Wednesday, the attention was again on Tate.

The next day, he was arrested in Romania.

Despite the online speculation that Romanian authorities were able to locate Tate after he posted a video in response to Thunberg containing a pizza box from a local spot that gave away his location, authorities denied that the video played any role. The investigation into Tate and his brother began in April after the U.S. Embassy called Romanian authorities with information that a U.S. citizen was being held involuntarily at a house in Ilfov.

But that didn’t stop Thunberg from having some fun at the expense of “the most toxic man on the internet.”

“This is what happens when you don’t recycle your pizza boxes,” she observed.

Kelsey Ables, Taylor Lorenz, Amir Nadhir and Sara Sorcher contributed to this report.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/technolo ... -misogyny/
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Disturbing Fact: For some bizarre reason, Andrew Tate popped up in my Twitter feed for the first time ever. I was a bit alarmed by a few of the horse racing folks who follow him. But then again, followers don't necessarily agree with or endorse the people they follow.

Still... That man is a pig.
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I have never heard of any of the so-called 'social media influencers' that seem to populate people's attention. Not one.
I guess I'm not easily influenced.

The problem, of course, exists not just with boys. It exists equally with girls. And, especially tragically, also with men and women...
The root of the problem is insecurity. It is personal insecurity which leads one to be easily influenced. A lack of belief and confidence in one's own qualities and capacities is what makes one follow others and/or whatever is 'popular'.

And so, the problem comes down to parenting. It is the parental responsibility to build self-confidence and self-esteem, etc. in their children. But parents are not doing that today. Instead, parents get sucked in to the abyss of being strongly influenced and following the 'popular' trends themselves.

For the past couple of decades, children have been bombarded by more negative elements today than at any other time in history. Much more. From advertising aimed directly at them to television to the internet, they are constantly being goaded into trying this, or following that. As such, if they are susceptible to these influences, they don't develop an individual, independent identity of their own.
As I've been saying for the past 20 years: at a time when children need THE MOST protection from outside influences, they are receiving THE LEAST protection from the people who should be protecting them - their parents (and protection can come in many forms, including education). Because their parents are themselves too 'busy' updating their facebook status, or posting mindless 'tweets', etc. to actively involve themselves in nurturing, educating, and protecting their children.

The problem with far too many parents today is that they are incredibly immature, as compared with parents of 30, 40, 50 years ago. Parents today behave like teenagers - they have been totally seduced by the internet and the promise of a degree of 'fame' and attention.
Today's parents know exactly who their favourite singer or movie star is dating, but they have no clue who their own children are dating. They know little about their children's lives.

Again, this has been going on for over 20 years - and getting worse. Far too long.
Some kids get through it ok - especially those who are fortunate enough to meet a mentor who can help guide them through life in what can only be called the absence of their parents.
But far too many kids go down an unhealthy path - because of the huge number of negative influences out there. Because their parents are not teaching them better.

"Do not go where the path may lead; go instead where there is no path, and leave a trail." - Ralph Waldo Emerson

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I wish I could find the Twitter thread that details how many parents who had never heard of this man found out their 11-18 year old boys were very familiar with him.

Girls get fed the Trashians and their ilk and that is just as bad although no one has ever accused them of trafficking.
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dryrunguy wrote: Mon Jan 02, 2023 12:34 am Disturbing Fact: For some bizarre reason, Andrew Tate popped up in my Twitter feed for the first time ever. I was a bit alarmed by a few of the horse racing folks who follow him. But then again, followers don't necessarily agree with or endorse the people they follow.

Still... That man is a pig.
Lauren Boebert showed up in mine several times and so I muted her. People who say Twitter is exactly the same are lying or blind. This ish is intentional.
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