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Javier was 0/15 in his Derby races going into today's race. But he's a Hall of Fame rider and has been the leading rider in the U.S. several times. It was just a matter of time. I just thought the horse was too inexperienced and green.JazzNU wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 11:17 pm Yay! Fun race. My picks were Mage and Reincarnate, Mage the more likely and Reincarnate the long shot. We've been over this before, but those were my picks because of Javier Castellano and John Velasquez being the jockeys. The betting on jockeys approach is even more important at the Kentucky Derby with the field always being so large. Veteran skill for the win.
That's always what I thought for Javier, just a matter of time before he wins it. For the horse being too green, ignorance is bliss. Not knowing their complete history, but knowing they have enough good finishes to be in the field, can be a benefit in picking at the Kentucky Derby to me. I tend to know who the Santa Anita and Florida Derby winners are, maybe watched a race or two in the season and read a few things. But mostly, I'm looking at the jockey, the trainer and the odds. And I never mind a longer shot at the Kentucky Derby.dryrunguy wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 11:37 pmJavier was 0/15 in his Derby races going into today's race. But he's a Hall of Fame rider and has been the leading rider in the U.S. several times. It was just a matter of time. I just thought the horse was too inexperienced and green.JazzNU wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 11:17 pm Yay! Fun race. My picks were Mage and Reincarnate, Mage the more likely and Reincarnate the long shot. We've been over this before, but those were my picks because of Javier Castellano and John Velasquez being the jockeys. The betting on jockeys approach is even more important at the Kentucky Derby with the field always being so large. Veteran skill for the win.
So good on you! Well done!
We used to have a very strong racing-horse "industry". Sundays with the family used to involve BBQ and the races in the background.
About Mage... He has only run four times, and he's run at four different distances--7 furlongs, 1 1/16 miles, 1 1/8 miles, and 1 1/4 miles. His Equibase speed figures have improved with each race: 88, 95, 102, and 104 in the Derby. Of the horses that ran in the Derby and are likely for the Preakness, he may be the only Derby horse going into the Preakness on an upward trajectory in terms of figures. That's a very good trajectory. Several horses regressed in the Derby and could be due for a bounce back in a positive direction. At the same time, one could probably argue that Mage is due a subpar effort--though he has shown zero signs of that. But I can tell you as a bettor, regression races tend to happen when you least expect them.New England Nitemare wrote: ↑Sun May 07, 2023 4:10 pm Great Kentucky Derby yesterday with Mage winning, now the question becomes can he win the Triple Crown???....now on to Baltimore for the Preakness!!!
I read that Pletcher said Forte is on track for the Preakness if everything goes according to plan. But that if things don't go that way, he may be skipping both the Preakness and Belmont and targeting his next race much later in the season.dryrunguy wrote: ↑Sun May 07, 2023 4:23 pm
The wildcards are Forte, if his connections decide he's fit enough for the Preakness, and other contenders that skipped the Derby. There very well be another Mage or two sitting out there somewhere. And we can't count out the four other horses that scratched from the Derby.
The horse was obviously not well and the vet in Kentucky did the right thing. What happens now?"In this case, this matter likely would have been adjudicated months ago but for the repeated procedural delays sought by the trainer's counsel," Maione wrote to BloodHorse.
Pletcher's counsel, Karen Murphy, and the Violence colt's connections did not respond to requests from the New York Times for comment, nor did Murphy reply with comment to BloodHorse.
The delayed test results reveal has happened before, probably most notably with Justify. I think the delay is a feature not a bug.dryrunguy wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 5:17 pm FYI, something breaking on Twitter (NY Times source) about Forte failing a drug test last fall at Saratoga. This would have been well before he ran in and won the Breeder's Cup Juvenile. Unfortunately, I'm buried with work at the moment and won't be able to dig into this until tonight.
Echo Lane wasn't ready. He needed more training works. He was competitive for half the race and then retreated. Finished last.dryrunguy wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 8:08 pm Echo Lane (2-year-old) will make his racing debut at Gulfstream on Friday. 5 furlongs on dirt. I'm betting he will prefer turf based on his pedigree, but he's training exceptionally well on dirt. Luca Panici will ride. Echo Lane will not be for sale, of course, as Mary has an extremely high opinion of him. (I think I forgot to tell you that Mary elected to NOT enter him in the race from last week where the winner would have been eligible to compete in an Ascot race.
