'24 RG Day 11 Order of Play & Discussion

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Re: '24 RG Day 11 Order of Play & Discussion

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Suliso wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2024 5:58 pm I'm firmly on a bus Sinner in the new rivalry at the top. Anyone else?
Yeah, Sinner 100% but probably Rune, actually. My favorite think about Jannik is his name. He's a little bland for me otherwise, but I like him better than Carlos. I never drank the Carlos Kool-Aid. I don't have anything against him, but the gushing over his drop shot got on my nerves. I Hear people saying how he brings so much variety to tennis, and it's really one fundamental shot - an under-used shot that he has mastered, yes, but it's nothing new. And everyone acts like he transformed the game. So that put me off.
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I like many things about Carlos. But somehow I like Sinner more. I will root for him in this semi.
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Wow y'all are on a tear today!

I'd rather watch Carlos play than Sinner. I'd rather watch Iga play than Rybakina.

I'm happy that the player I've been following for a couple of years now and never thought would make a deep run in a major let alone make the semi's has. Little Jasmine as I call her has had a great tournament no matter what happens.

I watched Mirra Andreeva play for the first time today and have to say that whether Sabalenka was having menstrual issues or not Andreeva played the hand she was dealt and played it well. Conchita was literally beaming in the stands.
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ti-amie wrote:Wow y'all are on a tear today!

I'd rather watch Carlos play than Sinner. I'd rather watch Iga play than Rybakina.

I'm happy that the player I've been following for a couple of years now and never thought would make a deep run in a major let alone make the semi's has. Little Jasmine as I call her has had a great tournament no matter what happens.

I watched Mirra Andreeva play for the first time today and have to say that whether Sabalenka was having menstrual issues or not Andreeva played the hand she was dealt and played it well. Conchita was literally beaming in the stands.
Andreeva is a serious talent and well-coached. I hope she doesn’t flame out. She played really well but clearly Aryna was compromised. Aryna fought very hard.

Someone on Twitter called Jasmine Jazzy P.


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meganfernandez wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2024 8:18 pm
Suliso wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2024 5:58 pm I'm firmly on a bus Sinner in the new rivalry at the top. Anyone else?
Yeah, Sinner 100% but probably Rune, actually. My favorite think about Jannik is his name. He's a little bland for me otherwise, but I like him better than Carlos. I never drank the Carlos Kool-Aid. I don't have anything against him, but the gushing over his drop shot got on my nerves. I Hear people saying how he brings so much variety to tennis, and it's really one fundamental shot - an under-used shot that he has mastered, yes, but it's nothing new. And everyone acts like he transformed the game. So that put me off.
I, and others, have written enough about alternate views on Carlos' game- his great forehand, very strong backhand, willingness to come to the net, great approach shots with, at least, good enough volleys, his improv skills, excellent both on offense and defense, his athleticism, his speed....as you have stuck with this same very narrow view of Carlos' game. The. Drop. Shot. I mean, for example- I could not stand Henin, but I would never try to discredit her game and her skills. I truly will never understand this Drop Shop Negativity Business. I apparently have missed out on all of the massive hordes of tennis fans gushing and drooling over his drop shots. (BTW, for a long time, Roger had strong disrespect for drop shots, until he figured out that, hey, drops shots can be a great way to win more matches).

And, yes, come on, you do have something against Carlos- at least, certainly, his game. As we all have players and games we don't like. I mean...you never drank the Carlos Kool-Aid....

I also will yet again point out- he is 21 freakin' years old. Who knows what his game will look like in the coming years. So, yet again, I strongly disagree.
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PS: To the shock of everyone- I am strongly rooting for Carlos to win this Roland Garros, and at least win all of the Slam titles at some point in his career. For now, I tend to find Sinner and his game bland. However, LOL, this is obviously extremely subjective- and I reserve the right to change my mind on Sinner. He certainly appears to be a very likable person off the court. And, BTW, I of course would not at all be shocked if Sinner wins this Roland Garros.
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I love the idea of an Alcaraz-Sinnet poll. I am firmly in the Alcaraz camp, believing he will win 20-plus slams, but there is this lingering doubt that this will be another Federer-Nadal situation. Up until their second meeting at Roland Garros I was convinced Federer was the vastly superior player and would figure out Nadal on clay. I gave that up after their 2006 meeting, and eventually I doubted whether Federer was the better player period.

Sinner has been better than Alcaraz on all surfaces in their head-to-head meetings to this point. I think Alcaraz will turn it around because I think he has a better all-around game, but history does not back me up there.
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jazzyg wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2024 12:29 am Sinner has been better than Alcaraz on all surfaces in their head-to-head meetings to this point. I think Alcaraz will turn it around because I think he has a better all-around game, but history does not back me up there.
Their head-to-head is 4-4 so I'm not sure what you mean by Sinner has been better on all surfaces.
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meganfernandez wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2024 8:18 pm
Suliso wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2024 5:58 pm I'm firmly on a bus Sinner in the new rivalry at the top. Anyone else?
Yeah, Sinner 100% but probably Rune, actually. My favorite think about Jannik is his name. He's a little bland for me otherwise, but I like him better than Carlos. I never drank the Carlos Kool-Aid. I don't have anything against him, but the gushing over his drop shot got on my nerves. I Hear people saying how he brings so much variety to tennis, and it's really one fundamental shot - an under-used shot that he has mastered, yes, but it's nothing new. And everyone acts like he transformed the game. So that put me off.
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Sinner had match points in their US Open match and should have won it. He had major physical issues in their rematch on hard courts last year after beating him two weeks earlier.

He also beat him on grass and clay consecutively. Their head-to-head is 4-4 bur easily could be 6-2. And even at 4-4, those meetings took place when Alcaraz was the more accomplished player. You would expect him to have a sizable lead based on their respective accomplishments.
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Owendonovan wrote:
meganfernandez wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2024 8:18 pm
Suliso wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2024 5:58 pm I'm firmly on a bus Sinner in the new rivalry at the top. Anyone else?
Yeah, Sinner 100% but probably Rune, actually. My favorite think about Jannik is his name. He's a little bland for me otherwise, but I like him better than Carlos. I never drank the Carlos Kool-Aid. I don't have anything against him, but the gushing over his drop shot got on my nerves. I Hear people saying how he brings so much variety to tennis, and it's really one fundamental shot - an under-used shot that he has mastered, yes, but it's nothing new. And everyone acts like he transformed the game. So that put me off.
Potito Starace is my favorite Italian tennis player name, so far.
I forgot about him!! One of the fantastic names, you are right. Put a smile on my face just now.


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I'm so surprised that bookies have Alcaraz as such a strong favorite: 1.54 to 2.37. To me it shall be quite closer. Alcaraz shall deservedly be a favorite. Just by not as much.
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I don't see how anybody can claim there is a favorite for that match. They are so even.
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ponchi101 wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2024 11:04 am I don't see how anybody can claim there is a favorite for that match. They are so even.
Don't you think the surface gives Carlos an advantage? He has seven titles on clay. Jannik has one.
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I think Alcaraz is a slight favorite (60-40). At USO I'd reverse those percentages.
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