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Re: Country Cups (Davis Cup, Fed/BJK Cup)
It does not even matter whether the bump was intentional or not. Bergs should be defaulted - players were defaulted for much less. I think Chile shall go to court and dispute the result of this tie.
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Re: Country Cups (Davis Cup, Fed/BJK Cup)
The bump, to me, isn't the issue. It's the injury. Probably should have been defaulted, according to the rules.
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It seems we all agree.
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Re: Country Cups (Davis Cup, Fed/BJK Cup)
I did not know Carlos Ramos was the chair in the Bergs vs Garin DC tie.
How Cristian Garin and Zizou Bergs’ Davis Cup tie descended into tennis farce over default rules
By Charlie Eccleshare
Feb 3, 2025
The Davis Cup rubber between Zizou Bergs of Belgium and Chile’s Cristian Garin ended with a swollen eye, disqualification pleas and an international incident on Sunday night.
In the third set of the match, Bergs broke Garin’s serve with a brilliant forehand pass to go up 6-5 and serve for the match. He sprinted to the net in celebration and leapt up into the air, just as his opponent was crossing over to return to his seat.
Bergs struck Garin in the face with his right shoulder, with the Chilean grasping at his right eye and collapsing to the ground.
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What happened?
The incident occurred with Belgium up 2-1 in the tie. After being knocked to the floor, Garin picked himself up but looked shocked and disorientated by what had happened. Bergs apologised instantly, before the chair umpire gave him a code violation for unsportsmanlike conduct.
Chile were furious with what they perceived to be a lenient punishment, with Garin making this point forcefully as he received medical attention. After that attention was completed, Garin refused to resume the match. Ramos then issued him with three successive sanctions, all for not returning to the court in time. After a normal code violation and a point penalty, Ramos issued a game penalty, forcing Garin to lose the set and the match, and Chile the tie.
What do the Davis Cup rules say about defaults?
According to the Davis Cup’s regulations, “Team Members shall not at any time physically abuse any official, opponent, spectator or other person within the precincts of the site… For the purposes of this section, physical abuse is the unauthorised touching of an official, opponent, spectator or other person.”
Bergs’ leap into Garin certainly met that threshold, and per the regulations, “In circumstances that are flagrant and particularly injurious to the success of a tie, the Referee shall have the authority to declare a default for a single violation of this section.”
Garin certainly felt that this incident was “flagrant and particularly injurious to the success of a tie” and forcefully made the point that Bergs should have been disqualified. Had that request been granted then the tie would have been level at 2-2, with a final rubber to be played between Chile’s Nicolas Jarry (ranked No. 38) against the Belgian teenager Alexander Blockx (ranked more than 100 places lower at No. 151).
Why was Bergs not defaulted?
ITF supervisor Carlos Ramos, who was in the chair for the controversial U.S. Open final between Serena Williams and Naomi Osaka in 2018, explained the decision not to default Bergs after the match. “I consider it was a very unfortunate accident between two players — caused unfortunately by a player without any intention,” Ramos said in a news conference.
“I don’t think anything that happened during that match would make anyone think it was not an accident.”
Ramos said that the independent tournament doctor cleared Garin to continue, which meant that he was committing a time violation by not returning to court in the allotted changeover time. The regulations, however, do not ascribe any outcome or impact of an action when considering whether or not a player should be defaulted, nor do they consider intent (whether or not an action is deliberate). Garin’s injury status should not, according to the rules, affect any ruling on Bergs.
In numerous incidents recently, from Alex Michelsen hitting a ball into the crowd at last year’s Winston-Salem final in North Carolina to Terence Atmane doing the same at last year’s French Open, the outcome — in these cases, whether or not a spectator was hurt — has seemingly led to the players involved not being disqualified even though this is not how the rules are supposed to be enforced.
What was the fallout?
Garin was not technically disqualified. Had he received the game penalty at a time in the match when he was not one game from defeat, he would not have lost.
“They only wanted to finish that match at any cost,” Garin added in his post-match news conference, as he insisted he wasn’t physically able to continue playing. He claimed that he lost consciousness for three seconds, though Chile’s team doctor disputes this. Chile’s doctor still emphasized that Garin “was not in any condition to continue playing”, disagreeing with the assessment of the tournament’s own medical staff.
Chile’s team captain, Nicolas Massu, a former Olympic singles and doubles champion and coach of 2020 U.S. Open champion Dominic Thiem, added, “One hour and a half later we still didn’t receive any apology from anyone. Not a single person asked if Cristian is OK.”
The International Tennis Federation (ITF), which runs the Davis Cup, issued a statement:
“This was a rare, unfortunate and very delicate situation and everyone involved, including the independent doctor, conducted due diligence based on rules and procedures.
“We understand the emotions attached to this unusual incident, but the final decision was made after consideration of all the facts and unique circumstances around it.”
Chile’s Olympic committee disagreed, and a statement shared by Garin on Instagram said it was “upset and incredulous” with the situation, and that it would support the Chilean tennis federation “so that this shameful international incident does not go unpunished”.
A Tennis Belgium spokesperson told The Athletic that the Belgium captain, Steve Darcis, had subsequently been in touch with Massu, and that the organisation would be issuing a statement.
Monday Feb. 3, Tennis Belgium said:
“Tennis Belgium regrets that the thrilling Davis Cup encounter between Belgium and Chile came to an abrupt end yesterday following an unfortunate collision between Zizou Bergs and Cristian Garin during the changeover.
“It was a moment of carelessness resulting from enthusiasm when Zizou secured a break that seemed decisive in the match. There was no malicious intent whatsoever.
“As the Belgian tennis federation, our primary concern is Garin’s well-being, and we hope he is doing well. Additionally, one day after these emotionally charged events, we call for calmness and objectivity. Based on this, we express our full support for Zizou and the Belgian team.”
Representatives for Bergs did not immediately respond when contacted by The Athletic for comment on Monday morning, but later referred to Tennis Belgium’s statement.
Will this have any wider ramifications for tennis?
Overall, this was a pretty strange incident. While there’s nothing wrong with celebrating exuberantly, there was an element of recklessness in Bergs’ actions and on another day he could easily have been defaulted. It would have been a desperately frustrating way to lose a match — and possibly a tie — in which he had worked so hard to gain an advantage.
(...)
More widely, the incident will open up the debate about what is or isn’t acceptable behaviour on a tennis court. Some supporters will have appreciated the passion in Bergs’ celebration, while others will feel this was a pretty clear breach of the rules and wasn’t appropriately punished. It also reintroduces conversations about inconsistency in the application of rules, particularly around defaults, which are supposed to be issued regardless of context and impact, even if that can lead to dissatisfying conclusions for both players and fans.
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/610866 ... p-default/
How Cristian Garin and Zizou Bergs’ Davis Cup tie descended into tennis farce over default rules
By Charlie Eccleshare
Feb 3, 2025
The Davis Cup rubber between Zizou Bergs of Belgium and Chile’s Cristian Garin ended with a swollen eye, disqualification pleas and an international incident on Sunday night.
In the third set of the match, Bergs broke Garin’s serve with a brilliant forehand pass to go up 6-5 and serve for the match. He sprinted to the net in celebration and leapt up into the air, just as his opponent was crossing over to return to his seat.
Bergs struck Garin in the face with his right shoulder, with the Chilean grasping at his right eye and collapsing to the ground.
(...)
What happened?
The incident occurred with Belgium up 2-1 in the tie. After being knocked to the floor, Garin picked himself up but looked shocked and disorientated by what had happened. Bergs apologised instantly, before the chair umpire gave him a code violation for unsportsmanlike conduct.
Chile were furious with what they perceived to be a lenient punishment, with Garin making this point forcefully as he received medical attention. After that attention was completed, Garin refused to resume the match. Ramos then issued him with three successive sanctions, all for not returning to the court in time. After a normal code violation and a point penalty, Ramos issued a game penalty, forcing Garin to lose the set and the match, and Chile the tie.
What do the Davis Cup rules say about defaults?
According to the Davis Cup’s regulations, “Team Members shall not at any time physically abuse any official, opponent, spectator or other person within the precincts of the site… For the purposes of this section, physical abuse is the unauthorised touching of an official, opponent, spectator or other person.”
Bergs’ leap into Garin certainly met that threshold, and per the regulations, “In circumstances that are flagrant and particularly injurious to the success of a tie, the Referee shall have the authority to declare a default for a single violation of this section.”
Garin certainly felt that this incident was “flagrant and particularly injurious to the success of a tie” and forcefully made the point that Bergs should have been disqualified. Had that request been granted then the tie would have been level at 2-2, with a final rubber to be played between Chile’s Nicolas Jarry (ranked No. 38) against the Belgian teenager Alexander Blockx (ranked more than 100 places lower at No. 151).
Why was Bergs not defaulted?
ITF supervisor Carlos Ramos, who was in the chair for the controversial U.S. Open final between Serena Williams and Naomi Osaka in 2018, explained the decision not to default Bergs after the match. “I consider it was a very unfortunate accident between two players — caused unfortunately by a player without any intention,” Ramos said in a news conference.
“I don’t think anything that happened during that match would make anyone think it was not an accident.”
Ramos said that the independent tournament doctor cleared Garin to continue, which meant that he was committing a time violation by not returning to court in the allotted changeover time. The regulations, however, do not ascribe any outcome or impact of an action when considering whether or not a player should be defaulted, nor do they consider intent (whether or not an action is deliberate). Garin’s injury status should not, according to the rules, affect any ruling on Bergs.
In numerous incidents recently, from Alex Michelsen hitting a ball into the crowd at last year’s Winston-Salem final in North Carolina to Terence Atmane doing the same at last year’s French Open, the outcome — in these cases, whether or not a spectator was hurt — has seemingly led to the players involved not being disqualified even though this is not how the rules are supposed to be enforced.
What was the fallout?
Garin was not technically disqualified. Had he received the game penalty at a time in the match when he was not one game from defeat, he would not have lost.
“They only wanted to finish that match at any cost,” Garin added in his post-match news conference, as he insisted he wasn’t physically able to continue playing. He claimed that he lost consciousness for three seconds, though Chile’s team doctor disputes this. Chile’s doctor still emphasized that Garin “was not in any condition to continue playing”, disagreeing with the assessment of the tournament’s own medical staff.
Chile’s team captain, Nicolas Massu, a former Olympic singles and doubles champion and coach of 2020 U.S. Open champion Dominic Thiem, added, “One hour and a half later we still didn’t receive any apology from anyone. Not a single person asked if Cristian is OK.”
The International Tennis Federation (ITF), which runs the Davis Cup, issued a statement:
“This was a rare, unfortunate and very delicate situation and everyone involved, including the independent doctor, conducted due diligence based on rules and procedures.
“We understand the emotions attached to this unusual incident, but the final decision was made after consideration of all the facts and unique circumstances around it.”
Chile’s Olympic committee disagreed, and a statement shared by Garin on Instagram said it was “upset and incredulous” with the situation, and that it would support the Chilean tennis federation “so that this shameful international incident does not go unpunished”.
A Tennis Belgium spokesperson told The Athletic that the Belgium captain, Steve Darcis, had subsequently been in touch with Massu, and that the organisation would be issuing a statement.
Monday Feb. 3, Tennis Belgium said:
“Tennis Belgium regrets that the thrilling Davis Cup encounter between Belgium and Chile came to an abrupt end yesterday following an unfortunate collision between Zizou Bergs and Cristian Garin during the changeover.
“It was a moment of carelessness resulting from enthusiasm when Zizou secured a break that seemed decisive in the match. There was no malicious intent whatsoever.
“As the Belgian tennis federation, our primary concern is Garin’s well-being, and we hope he is doing well. Additionally, one day after these emotionally charged events, we call for calmness and objectivity. Based on this, we express our full support for Zizou and the Belgian team.”
Representatives for Bergs did not immediately respond when contacted by The Athletic for comment on Monday morning, but later referred to Tennis Belgium’s statement.
Will this have any wider ramifications for tennis?
Overall, this was a pretty strange incident. While there’s nothing wrong with celebrating exuberantly, there was an element of recklessness in Bergs’ actions and on another day he could easily have been defaulted. It would have been a desperately frustrating way to lose a match — and possibly a tie — in which he had worked so hard to gain an advantage.
(...)
More widely, the incident will open up the debate about what is or isn’t acceptable behaviour on a tennis court. Some supporters will have appreciated the passion in Bergs’ celebration, while others will feel this was a pretty clear breach of the rules and wasn’t appropriately punished. It also reintroduces conversations about inconsistency in the application of rules, particularly around defaults, which are supposed to be issued regardless of context and impact, even if that can lead to dissatisfying conclusions for both players and fans.
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/610866 ... p-default/
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Common sense is not the case here. The thing are the rules. Either they are applied as they are written, or then what do you have them for?
The physical abuse part seems to be clear.
The physical abuse part seems to be clear.
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Davis Cup Media Information
PRESS RELEASE
1 April 2025
Feliciano Lopez confirmed as Davis Cup Final 8 Tournament Director for next three years
Four-time Davis Cup champion Feliciano Lopez will return as Tournament Director for the next three editions of the Davis Cup Final 8.
Having overseen successful Final 8 events in Malaga in 2023 and 2024, the Spaniard has been appointed by the International Tennis Federation (ITF) to lead the event in 2025-2027 while it is held in Italy.
Lopez earned praise from players, captains and staff for his contribution during the last two Final 8 events which drew record attendances and produced countless memorable moments in Andalucia.
The 2025 Davis Cup Final 8 will take place on 18-23 November 2025 at SuperTennis Arena by Bologna Fiere, home of the city’s Euroleague basketball team, Virtus Bologna. Tickets for the Final 8 went on sale last week and are available here.
https://tickets.italy.daviscup.com/it#m ... 6ed36e0200
Lopez said: "Davis Cup was very special to me as a player and it was a privilege to be Final 8 Tournament Director for the last two years. I am honoured that the ITF has put its trust in me for the event’s long-term future and I am excited to work on it in Italy for the next three years, starting in Bologna this November. I am sure that we will build on our success in Malaga, and I will give everything to continue the growth of the Davis Cup.
"The atmosphere that Davis Cup creates is unique in our sport and this season will be no different. It has been amazing to see so many fans travelling to be at the Final 8 in recent years and I am sure that those travelling from afar will be made to feel welcome in Bologna in November. I recommend fans to buy their tickets now to book their places."
Lopez contested 31 Davis Cup ties for Spain between 2003 and 2021 and helped his country to win the competition in 2008, 2009, 2011 and 2019. In the 2008 final against Argentina, he beat Juan Martin del Potro in singles and Agustin Calleri and David Nalbandian in doubles alongside Fernando Verdasco to help Spain become world champions for the third time.
Lopez clinched the decisive victory alongside Verdasco in the 2009 final against Czechia, beating Tomas Berdych and Radek Stepanek in straight sets in Barcelona. He was also part of the Spain squads that claimed the titles in 2011 with victory over Argentina and in 2019 with victory over Canada.
David Haggerty, ITF President, said: "Few players have enjoyed as much Davis Cup success as Feliciano and the experience he brings to the role of Tournament Director is invaluable. He has worked tirelessly in the role over the last two seasons, he has built great relationships across the ITF team and we are very pleased that he will continue as Tournament Director for the next three years."
Host nation Italy will aim for a third consecutive Davis Cup title this year, with captain Filippo Volandri’s team having secured back-to-back titles at the Final 8 in Malaga in 2023 and 2024. Italy will be joined at the Final 8 by the seven winning nations from this year’s Qualifiers 2nd Round, which takes place in September.
The four quarter-final ties will be played across four sessions on Tuesday 18-Thursday 20 November, with the Italian team to contest their quarter-final tie on Wednesday 19 November. The semi-finals will take place on Friday 21-Saturday 22 November with the 2025 Davis Cup final on Sunday 23 November.
The 2025 Davis Cup Final 8 will take place on 18-23 November 2025 at SuperTennis Arena by Bologna Fiere, home of the city’s Euroleague basketball team, Virtus Bologna.
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Does he retain the tournament director role in Madrid?
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The American BJK Cup team was decimated yesterday after Pegula, Collins, and Kessler pulled out. The team is now being led by...Alycia Parks.
Fortunately for them, the only player of note in their group is Rebecca Sramkova.
Fortunately for them, the only player of note in their group is Rebecca Sramkova.
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On a related-yet-side-note.. Weeks ago, I decided to treat myself to something special and get a VIP ticket to the Netherlands - Great Britain BJK Cup match in The Hague this weekend. Went to the ticketing website, but absolutely zero ways to be found to actually buy such a ticket, even though they are mentioned. Eventually found a link with which the Dutch tennis Federation, the KNLTB, could be e-mailed, which I did.
After a few days, the first reply I got was that I'd mailed the wrong department but that my request had been forwarded to the right one. At this point I still have no idea what the price is, whatever else is required nor what is included in the price. Like, zero information. Why? Anyways... I eventually get a response and while that still left some room for interpretation of what is and is not included in the price, I was interested. By that time, though, some things had come up and I'd have to decide just a few days before, which turned out to be this Wednesday morning. Sent an e-mail. No reply. Called. No answer. Sent another, slightly grumpy e-mail this morning. Got a reply this afternoon with a payment link and the cute response that they'd been "rather busy in The Hague" with the tournament I want to visit. Meanwhile, my travel options were shot, my cheap hotel long gone and my will to reconsider evaporated. Which I let them know, kindly. And just now they still managed to reply to that in such a way as to make it seem like I failed myself
I mean... Really? And these are the same people I'll be dealing with for what is now my next VIP target, the Davis Cup match against Argentina in my home town of Groningen in September. Meh...
After a few days, the first reply I got was that I'd mailed the wrong department but that my request had been forwarded to the right one. At this point I still have no idea what the price is, whatever else is required nor what is included in the price. Like, zero information. Why? Anyways... I eventually get a response and while that still left some room for interpretation of what is and is not included in the price, I was interested. By that time, though, some things had come up and I'd have to decide just a few days before, which turned out to be this Wednesday morning. Sent an e-mail. No reply. Called. No answer. Sent another, slightly grumpy e-mail this morning. Got a reply this afternoon with a payment link and the cute response that they'd been "rather busy in The Hague" with the tournament I want to visit. Meanwhile, my travel options were shot, my cheap hotel long gone and my will to reconsider evaporated. Which I let them know, kindly. And just now they still managed to reply to that in such a way as to make it seem like I failed myself
I mean... Really? And these are the same people I'll be dealing with for what is now my next VIP target, the Davis Cup match against Argentina in my home town of Groningen in September. Meh...Never be sad on a weekend. Cry during business hours and get paid for your depression. Don't let capitalism win.
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Maybe a good example of why the national competitions are in peril?
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It definitely doesn't help. It is also an issue that the people responsible for premium ticket sales are also needed at the BJK Cup to other work that requires so much time that it takes days to respond. At least the regular tickets have a normal online purchase platform that works just fine, including picking specific seats.
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Re: Country Cups (Davis Cup, Fed/BJK Cup)
Maybe they dread being invited to the WH if they winJTContinental wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 5:54 pm The American BJK Cup team was decimated yesterday after Pegula, Collins, and Kessler pulled out. The team is now being led by...Alycia Parks.
Fortunately for them, the only player of note in their group is Rebecca Sramkova.
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really high time Davenport resigned in disgrace.. cant get anyone to put on the USA jersey? really? It is the first job of the captain to persuade your best players to play.. else what is the point of being captain?
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