The Tiny Scandals and Trials

[ti-amie]

[ti-amie]

[JazzNU]

I think this is going very well. Who knows if some of these GOP senators will locate their missing spines and there will be an impeachment, but I liken this to OJ Simpson. Can OJ go anywhere without everyone thinking he's a murderer even though he was never convicted? He cannot. That is how this needs to attach to the Insurrectionist-In-Chief for the rest of his time. Impeachment is the ideal, along with barring him from future office. But if we don't get there, stain him with a stench so strong it can never shake from him.

And of course, we still have cases pending in NY state as this unfortunately was never going to deal with his freedom.

[MJ2004]

And possibly a case to come from Georgia. Although not too likely.

[ponchi101]

The GOP is actually right when they say that it is solely a political trial. FROM THEIR SIDE. Any reasonable jury would pass a guilty verdict, but they will not because of the politics.
The case sounds very solid. And the only thing I would sort of disagree with jazzNu is that O.J. was a well liked figure prior to the murder. Tiny has always been a polarizing person that, as we can see now, is either loathed or worshipped. Few people from the GOP (percentage wise) will recoil in disgust when seeing him.

[JazzNU]

That's not true though. For reasons unknown, he was pretty well liked pre-political career. It's why he's been seen in the most random places for the last 30 years.

Have you read the SAG letter? As hilarious as that was, it is true that he did appear in all those projects. He has been shunned by the celebrity class in the last 5 years, one of the groups that has held steady in their dislike and disdain, and the narcissist in him cares about that way more about that than he cares about so much more. Sad, but true.

[JazzNU]

And possibly a case to come from Georgia. Although not too likely.

Georgia prosecutors launch criminal inquiry into Trump's efforts to overturn election

By Rebecca Shabad and Julia Jester

WASHINGTON — Georgia prosecutors have launched a criminal investigation into former President Donald Trump's efforts to overturn the state's election results, NBC News confirmed Wednesday.

The investigation by Fulton County prosecutors will look into a damning phone call in which Trump begged Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger to "find" the votes to reverse President Joe Biden's victory.

Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis sent a letter Wednesday to state government officials, including Raffensperger, requesting that their offices preserve documents related to the call, a state official with knowledge of the letter said.

NBC News verified the contents of the letter, which explicitly states that the request is part of a criminal investigation into several possible charges, from false statements to "any involvement in violence or threats related to the election's administration."

A spokesperson for Georgia Attorney General Chris Carr's office confirmed that it received the letter and that officials "are in the process of reviewing and synthesizing" it. Gov. Brian Kemp's office also confirmed having received the letter.

Georgia is the second state, after New York, where Trump faces criminal investigations.

Raffensperger's office has also opened a separate investigation into the phone call, NBC News reported this week. His office confirmed that it had opened the inquiry after it received a complaint about Trump's conduct.

During the Jan. 2 phone call, Trump told Raffensperger: "All I want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have. Because we won the state."

Georgia reaffirmed Biden's victory several times after the November election.

Willis suggested an investigation in a statement last month in which she described the phone call as "disturbing."

"Anyone who commits a felony violation of Georgia law in my jurisdiction will be held accountable. Once the investigation is complete, this matter, like all matters, will be handled by our office based on the facts and the law," Willis said at the time.

Willis and Raffensperger did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

The criminal inquiry, first reported Wednesday by The New York Times, comes as the Senate holds its impeachment trial against Trump for his role in the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol. House Democratic managers who are prosecuting the case will deliver their opening arguments Wednesday, which will include "never-seen-before" video of the deadly riot.

Meanwhile, Manhattan District Attorney Cy Vance has been investigating "possibly extensive and protracted criminal conduct at the Trump Organization," Trump's family business, which could involve falsifying business records, tax fraud and insurance fraud. New York Attorney General Letitia James is also investigating four Trump Organization real estate projects and Trump's failed attempt to buy the NFL's Buffalo Bills.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald ... n-n1257272

[JazzNU]

^^ It is significant that it is a Fulton County investigation, not a Georgia state one. More likely to go somewhere in that context. Although, even a state investigation or the state trying to disrupt this investigation isn't as likely as it would've been before. Because Republicans holding statewide office in Georgia are very much on notice that they may be replaced in an upcoming election especially if they don't act right.

[ti-amie]

[ponchi101]

5 years? Permanent record?
(Serious question)

[skatingfan]

5 years? Permanent record?
(Serious question)

2 years, deferred sentencing.

[ponchi101]

Damn, you people are soft. I was expecting something involving oyster shells and salt.

[JazzNU]

5 years? Permanent record?
(Serious question)

Not sure what you are asking. Are you inquiring about how long a sentence would be for the above charges against the Proud Boys? And what do you mean by permanent record?

[ponchi101]

5 years? Permanent record?
(Serious question)

Not sure what you are asking. Are you inquiring about how long a sentence would be for the above charges against the Proud Boys? And what do you mean by permanent record?

I was asking about indeed how long their sentence could be, and whether this would go on their permanent record. Something like having to register as a sex offender once you finish you sentence.

[the Moz]

So the Donald is twice impeached and headed to twice acquitted. How close to 17 are the Dems likely to get? At least 10 I hope.