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A nationwide horror: Witnesses, police paint a picture of a murderous rampage that took 8 lives

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Tim Craig,
Mark Berman,
Hannah Knowles and
Marc Fisher
March 18, 2021 at 3:00 p.m. EDT

ATLANTA — Robert Aaron Long's family had finally had it. Long, 21, was so obsessed with sex — watching hour upon hour of pornography online, visiting the kinds of spas where the customers bought "massages with happy endings" — that on Monday night, his parents kicked him out of the house, according to police and a friend who confirmed the account.

The next day, police said, Long bought a handgun. And then, as dusk fell over metropolitan Atlanta on Tuesday evening, Long launched himself on what authorities say was a premeditated trail of terror. He drove to three Atlanta-area Asian spas, where he shot nine people, killing eight of them.

He was on a mission, he would later tell police, to stem his addiction to sex. The spas were “a temptation for him that he wanted to eliminate,” said Capt. Jay Baker, a spokesman for the Cherokee County Sheriff’s Office.

That restatement of the confessed shooter’s motive was meant to allay fears that Long had embarked on a racially motivated campaign of terror against Asian women, but it instead raised disturbing questions about the murderer’s animus toward women and the racial attitudes that fueled his decision to target Asian spas.

Long was on his way to Florida to continue his massacre when police cornered him on Interstate 75 and arrested him Tuesday night.

By the time he was captured, Long was the subject of nationwide horror about the murder of eight people — six of them Asian women. Many Americans were already on edge before Tuesday’s news; the country remained in the throes of social upheaval resulting from police killings of Black Americans and attacks on Asian Americans that surged after President Donald Trump took to calling the coronavirus the “China virus” or “kung flu.”

Tuesday’s attacks instantly unleashed a gut-wrenching collective anxiety — was this another outburst of racial hatred?

Long’s journey from membership in a religious social club at his suburban high school to a murderous rampage, ostensibly driven by his addiction to sex, remains fuzzy. What is already clear is that this latest in a seemingly never-ending series of mass shootings hit the country where it hurt most — in its anguished struggles over race, sex and the allure of gun violence.

Sometime earlier on Tuesday, Long got into his black 2008 Hyundai Tucson and drove from his hometown of Woodstock, Ga., about 12 miles north to the city of Canton, where he bought a 9 millimeter pistol at Big Woods Goods, a shop devoted mainly to hunting supplies, an attorney for the store confirmed.

Even before Long, who is White, left home, the area was on alert for attacks targeting Asian Americans. On Monday morning, state Sen. Michelle Au (D) had raised the alarm. Speaking to fellow senators at the state Capitol, Au, an anesthesiologist and first-generation Chinese American who was elected last fall, called the jump in crimes against Asian Americans since the pandemic began last year “a new chapter in a very old story.”

“All I’m asking right now, as the first East Asian state senator in Georgia, is simply to fully consider us as part of our communities,” she said. “We need help, we need protection, and we need people in power to stand up for us against hate.”

A man with a gun

Around 4 p.m. on a chilly, damp day in Acworth, a suburb of 20,000 people about 45 minutes north of Atlanta, a man dressed in black pants and a magenta-and-black hoodie parked his car outside Young’s Asian Massage.

The man — later identified as Long — sat in his car for upward of an hour, according to Alex Acosta, whose wife owns a boutique next door to the spa. The shops are part of a small commercial strip that also includes a vape store, record shop, beauty salon and tool store.

At about 4:50 p.m., surveillance cameras caught Long entering Young’s, according to the Cherokee County Sheriff’s Office.

The spa has been open despite the pandemic. A note on the front door set the minimalist rules: “If you have cold or flu symptoms. Wait for your massage at a later time. We are attempting to avoid the spread of any virus. Sorry for any inconvenience and please understand our position with this.”

At Gabby’s Boutique next door to Young’s, Rita Barron was helping customers when she heard a “pah-pah-pah” noise and women screaming, she said.

“Oh my God, what is that?” she said. Later, she would learn that a bullet had punched through her wall.

But in the moment, Barron, 47, didn’t think shooting. She thought maybe the spa workers next door had dropped something heavy. Coming out of the bathroom, Acosta, Barron’s husband, wondered if perhaps an animal had gotten inside, causing a ruckus.

Acosta went outside to check and ran into three spa workers with whom he struggled to communicate. He said they did not speak fluent English, and he is most comfortable speaking Spanish.

But a few terrifying words made it through: A man with a gun. People shot.

Acosta urged the women not to go back inside. He rushed back into the boutique and told his wife to call 911.

At 4:54 p.m., Cherokee County dispatched police to Young’s after receiving calls about gunshots and injured people.

Yet several owners of nearby shops said they heard nothing and had no idea anything was amiss until police and ambulances swarmed the area.

Officers walked into a bloody scene, bodies on the floor and the wounded staggering about. Outside the shop, moments after police arrived, Acosta saw a man who looked like he had been shot in the face: There was blood between his eyes, and he made it only five steps before falling.

Authorities carried two Asian women out of the spa and laid them on the pavement, Acosta said. He couldn’t tell if they were alive — one was bleeding from her head, the other from her neck or chest. A White man and woman who were shot seemed to be treated inside the spa, he said.

One of the bleeding women carried out was the spa’s owner, he said. He didn’t know her name, though he had once visited her house to do some construction work. The owner, Xiaojie Tan, 50, who died in the attack, was a licensed massage therapist, according to Georgia state records.

Within minutes, ambulances arrived and hurried the three survivors down Interstate 75 to Wellstar Kennestone Hospital, where two of them later died.

The dead ranged in age from 33 to 54. Two were Asian and two were White, police said. The lone survivor, 30-year-old Elcias R. Hernandez-Ortiz, an immigrant from Guatemala, was apparently outside the spa, near a money exchange shop that he frequented, when he was shot, his wife told The Washington Post.

Delaina Yaun, a 33-year-old waitress at a Waffle House, was inside with her husband, Mario, receiving a couple’s massage when she was shot and killed, according to a GoFundMe page set up to support her family. Her husband escaped.

The other people killed at Young’s were Paul Andre Michels, 54, of Atlanta, and Daoyou Feng, 44, said police, who declined to say which of the victims were employees of Young’s.

In Acworth, word spread quickly that the victims included several Asian women. Adrian Lopez, owner of Big Savings Tool & Liquidation, five doors down from Young’s, concluded that the attack was racially motivated.

Before the shootings, Lopez’s big worry was that someone might rob his store. Now, he said, Latinos needed to be on guard and express unity with their Asian neighbors.

“I feel as a Spanish man, if that happens to them, we are going to be next,” said Lopez, who emigrated from Mexico 18 years ago. Three of the six businesses on the strip are owned by Latino merchants.

Shortly after they arrived, police began collecting images of the alleged shooter recorded by nearby surveillance cameras.

Acosta shared the boutique’s surveillance footage with authorities. He realized that the shooter’s car had been parked outside the spa for almost an hour before the man entered Young’s. After the shootings, the man who had gone into the spa got back in the Hyundai and sped away.

Police posted photos from the surveillance footage online in hopes of crowdsourcing the shooter’s identity.

It worked with remarkable speed. According to police, Long’s father called 911 and said that it might well be his son they were seeing on TV and on social media. A second, anonymous caller said that Long had been tossed out of his parents’ place the previous evening and warned that he was “emotional,” according to a police incident report.

Cherokee County Sheriff Frank Reynolds drove over to Woodstock to see the family. The parents were, he said, “very distraught and . . . very helpful.”

The parents described their son as a young man who had struggled with his sex addiction, even spending time in a rehab program. Long had visited massage parlors and “sees them as an outlet for him, something that he shouldn’t be doing — an issue with porn,” said Baker, the spokesman for the sheriff’s office.

Tyler Bayless said he lived with Long for five months during 2019 and 2020 at Maverick Recovery, a sober-living facility in Roswell. Bayless was trying to recover from an alcohol and drug addiction, and Long was there for what he called “sex addiction.”

“He hated the pornography industry,” Bayless said. “He was pretty passionate about what a bad influence it was on him. He felt exploited by it, taken advantage of by it.”

One more thing, the family told the sheriff: Long had a cellphone with him, and its tracking program was turned on.

Police took off after the fleeing suspect.

As Cherokee officers zoomed down I-75, back at their headquarters, word arrived from Atlanta. More people had been shot, also at Asian spas.

'Everybody heard the gunshots'

5:47 p.m.: About 30 miles south of Young’s, in the Piedmont Heights neighborhood of Atlanta, a woman who worked at the Gold Spa called 911.

For nearly two minutes, the caller, who spoke with a heavy accent, and the 911 operator struggled to understand each other.

“Repeat the address,” the operator said.

“Yeah, we’re in a robbery right now, so, can help please come?” the caller replied.

“Ok, repeat the address . . . You need police, fire or ambulance?”

“Huh?”

“Police, fire or an ambulance?”

“I don’t know . . . There’s a robbery here — that guy, he’s like — need police now.”

They went back and forth about the location, the name of the business and description of the bad guy.

“They have a gun,” the caller said, sounding strained, almost breathless.

“Where is he at in the building?” the operator replied.

“This is Gold Spa.”

“I know,” the operator said. “Where is the person who is robbing the spa? Where is he right now?”

“I don’t know, I’m hiding right now.”

They established that the shooter was a White man.

“What is he wearing?” the operator asked.

“I don’t know — please come, okay?” the caller replied.

Police were dispatched even as the call was ongoing.

The Gold Spa — and another, Aromatherapy Spa — sit atop a hill on a heavily traveled street where a strip club and several other spas, all on the same block, are open 24/7, coexisting with a Cathedral of St. Philip Thrift Store and a Champ’s Chicken.

Anthony “Ant” Smith, an employee at Studio 219 Ink, a piercing shop next door to Gold Spa, said Tuesday was especially busy for him. It was Studio 219’s weekly special, offering customers basic piercings for $10.

Smith said neither he nor his half-dozen customers who had been waiting in the parking lot for their turn heard any gunfire.

Instead, his clients “just started coming in saying something must be going on because the police and firetrucks had pulled up,” Smith said.

By the time Smith finally looked outside, at about 5:30 p.m., he saw police searching the area, appearing to be especially interested in the foliage that lines the parking lot behind Gold Spa.

“I looked out and saw this mayhem,” Smith said. “They had blocked off all of the streets and were searching in the bushes.”

Smith pulled out his phone and tapped on the Citizen app, which delivers real-time information on police movements. The app reported a possible armed robbery at Gold Spa. Smith returned to his customers.

Gold Spa never attracted much attention from its neighbors, shopkeepers said. Occasionally, Smith saw an Asian woman in the parking lot feeding stray cats.

Javan Young, a manager at Studio 219, also heard nothing. He was about to take his 6 p.m. break when he saw “all the officers pull up and jump out guns blazing,” he said.

At night, Young said, the spa usually had an armed security guard on-site, but during the day, he’d never seen that.

5:49: Responding to the 911 call about a “business robbery in progress” at Gold Spa, Atlanta police found three dead women, all apparently shot and killed.

As officers started to document the scene at Gold Spa, at 5:57, a second 911 call came in from just down the road, at Aromatherapy Spa.

The 911 caller, a woman named Nina, seemed to have a connection with the spa but wasn’t on the premises. She said a friend had called to tell her that a man had entered the spa and now there’d been gunshots, and “the lady’s like passed out, in front of the door. Everybody’s scared, so everybody’s hiding, so I don’t know what’s going on exactly, but I need the ambulance or something.”

“I didn’t understand exactly,” the 911 operator said. “So, what happened?”

“Everybody heard the gunshots, and some ladies got hurt,” Nina said.

The women in the spa were hiding behind desks, in the back of the facility, wherever they thought they might not be found.

As the four-minute call continued, police and paramedics made their way to Aromatherapy Spa, arriving at 6 p.m., according to police dispatch records.

Inside, officers found another woman dead from gunshot wounds.

By the time Atlanta Police Chief Rodney Bryant heard the details of the two murder scenes in his city, his investigators knew about the similar incident in Acworth.

Three Asian spas, eight deaths, and now video footage showing that the same car seen at the Acworth scene was present at the two spas on Piedmont Road in Atlanta.

As bulletins flashed across the Internet, Asian American organizations and politicians began raising the alarm about what appeared to be attacks on one already-anxious community. In Atlanta, New York, Seattle and other cities, police fanned out to check on Asian spas and Asian American-owned businesses.

And on I-75 south of Atlanta, Long was speeding toward Florida.

Calls for hate crimes investigation

Shortly before 8 p.m., Reynolds, the Cherokee County sheriff, told his counterpart and buddy in Crisp County, a couple of hours south of Atlanta, that a possible homicide suspect was heading toward his territory.

Crisp Sheriff H.W. “Billy” Hancock radioed his deputies: Watch out for a black Hyundai Tucson with Georgia tags, according to an incident report.

About 150 miles south of Atlanta, Crisp deputies and state troopers saw the Hyundai. A state trooper moved into position to execute a PIT — “precision immobilization technique” — a controversial method of stopping a suspect’s car by using the police vehicle to bump against it, forcing it to spin out.

Long came to a halt and gave up without a fight, police said. He was placed in the rear of a state trooper’s car and handcuffed. Police said they found a 9mm firearm in Long’s car.

By 8:30 p.m., Long had been booked into the Crisp County Detention Center and changed into a jail uniform. As he waited to be put in a cell, he “asked if he was going to be here for the rest of his life,” according to the police report.

Long was taken to a padded cell and placed on suicide watch, the report said.

Investigators from the Cherokee sheriff’s office arrived and interviewed Long. They said he confessed to the shootings and insisted that the murders were not racially motivated.

Rather, he said that the spas were a temptation to him.

“We believe that he frequented these places in the past,” Reynolds said, “and may have been lashing out.”

Long told police that he had been heading to Florida, where he intended to attack more spas.

“This could have been significantly worse,” Atlanta Mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms (D) said.

At 9:55 p.m., the Congressional Asian Pacific American Caucus tweeted that its members were “horrified by the news coming out of GA at a time when we’re already seeing a spike in anti-Asian violence. #StopAsianHate.”

Across the country, Asian American advocates called for the shootings to be investigated as hate crimes. Four of the murdered women were of Korean descent, according to a statement from South Korea’s foreign ministry.

'I'm so sorry'

On Wednesday morning, Long was transported back to Cherokee County and placed in its detention center. He was charged with four counts of murder and one count of aggravated assault for the killings in Cherokee County and then four homicide counts for the bloodshed in Atlanta. If convicted, Long could face the death penalty.


A scheduled hearing for Long in Cherokee County was canceled when he waived his right to an initial appearance, according to his attorney’s law firm. He is being held without bail.

On Wednesday afternoon, five bouquets of flowers rested at the front of the door of Young’s Asian Massage in Acworth. It was St. Patrick’s Day and someone also left a basket of shamrocks, along with a handwritten note that said, “From people who care. Woodstock Acworth.”

The note ended with the only sentiment so many could muster: “I’m so sorry.”

Craig reported from Atlanta; Berman, Knowles and Fisher from Washington. Missy Ryan in Washington and Alex Kellogg and Jonathan Krohn in Atlanta contributed to this report.

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He drove 27m from one Asian owned Spa to another.











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Help me out here... Why does it have to be an either/or situation? Why do we have to choose how to interpret this horrific episode as a hate crime against Asians or a hate crime against women?

It very well may have been BOTH.

I don't understand why people are being pushed to pick a side. It's as if we have to choose one or the other. You either choose to support the Asian community, or you choose to support women. You can't support both. Why is that?

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Meanwhile, I want to know what kind of porn he watched. By any chance, was it porn involving Asian women? If so, that would be a fairly significant piece of the puzzle, no?
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I think what's making it hard for people to say that it was "just" a crime against women is the fact that in the 27 miles he drove from one spa to another he passed dozens of strip joints and porn palaces but didn't do anything until he got to another Asian run shop.
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ti-amie wrote: Fri Mar 19, 2021 4:33 am I think what's making it hard for people to say that it was "just" a crime against women is the fact that in the 27 miles he drove from one spa to another he passed dozens of strip joints and porn palaces but didn't do anything until he got to another Asian run shop.
A lot of people are saying it was a crime against women. A lot of people are saying it was a crime against Asians.

No one seems to be acknowledging the potential intersection of race and gender in this case.
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A lot of AAPI women are speaking out about how their fetishization has put them in danger. I've been reading their comments for the last two days.
And that is a whole other conversation.
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ti-amie wrote: Fri Mar 19, 2021 4:53 am A lot of AAPI women are speaking out about how their fetishization has put them in danger. I've been reading their comments for the last two days.
And that is a whole other conversation.
IT'S A THING. They are absolutely right. But I'm not sure it's another conversation. It might be THIS conversation.
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dryrunguy wrote: Fri Mar 19, 2021 4:56 am
ti-amie wrote: Fri Mar 19, 2021 4:53 am A lot of AAPI women are speaking out about how their fetishization has put them in danger. I've been reading their comments for the last two days.
And that is a whole other conversation.
IT'S A THING. They are absolutely right. But I'm not sure it's another conversation. It might be THIS conversation.
It's up to the women affected by this. I don't say that to be mean but a bunch of Western women can't take the lead on this. It's a problem for other women of color too but right now this issue is at the forefront and may open the door for other women to speak out on the issue and how fetishization affects them.
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And this popped up in this morning's NY Times e-newsletter. Headline: How Racism and Sexism Intertwine to Torment Asian-American Women.

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Can't read it behind their pay wall.
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How Racism and Sexism Intertwine to Torment Asian-American Women
Many viewed the shooting rampage in Atlanta that left eight people dead as the culmination of a racialized misogyny that they say has long been directed at them.

After eight people, six of them Asian women, were fatally shot this week in a rampage near Atlanta, a law enforcement official said that in the gunman’s own words, his actions were “not racially motivated,” but caused by “sexual addiction.”

The official, Capt. Jay Baker of the Sheriff’s Office in Cherokee County, where one of the three massage businesses targeted by the gunman was located, cautioned that the investigation was in its early stages. But the implication was clear: It had to be one motive or the other, not both.

That suggestion was met with incredulity by many Asian-American women, for whom racism and sexism have always been inextricably intertwined. For them, racism often takes the form of unwanted sexual come-ons, and sexual harassment is often overtly racist.

With reports of anti-Asian attacks surging after the Trump administration repeatedly emphasized China’s connection to the Covid-19 pandemic, there is evidence that most of the hate, unlike other types of bias crime, has been directed at women.

“People on here literally debating if this was a misogynistic attack against women or a racist attack against Asians,” Jenn Fang, the founder of a long-running Asian-American feminist blog, Reappropriate, wrote in a scathing Twitter thread. “What if — wait for it — it was both.”

Captain Baker’s briefing on the attacks on Wednesday included an assertion that the accused gunman, who is white, had been having “a really bad day,” which many women took as yet another way of excusing violence against them. His comments were widely criticized, and he was found to have promoted sales of an anti-Asian T-shirt.

The Sheriff’s Office later said in a statement that the captain’s remarks were “not intended to disrespect any of the victims” or to “express empathy or sympathy for the suspect.”

But the apology seemed to do little to quell a sense that the authorities were missing the point.

“Law enforcement and society in general tends to really not understand how racism and hate and prejudice is directed toward Asian-Americans, and certainly not understand how it’s directed toward Asian-American women,” said Helen Zia, an activist and author who has tracked anti-Asian violence. “So the instant reaction is generally to discount and dismiss it.”

There is a long history of misogyny and violence directed specifically at Asian women by men of all races — including Asian men. Asian-American women have long been stereotyped as sexually submissive, portrayed in popular culture as exotic “lotus blossoms” and manipulative “dragon ladies,” or as inherently superior to other women in a way that erases their individuality. They have been subjected to backlash for any failure to conform to those stereotypes and trolled for choosing non-Asian partners.

Despite vast economic inequality among Asian-Americans, they are often assumed to be accomplished, financially successful members of a “model minority,” a fabrication sometimes used to denigrate other racial groups by contrast.

Sung Yeon Choimorrow, the executive director of the National Asian Pacific American Women’s Forum, an advocacy group, said that when she first came to the United States to attend college in 2000, she was “stunned, dumbfounded, horrified” by the way she was frequently approached by male strangers who professed to love Korean women.

“It is the ‘Me so horny, I love you long time,’ in like weird accents, and ‘Oh, are you Korean? I love Korea,’” she said, adding that she began to wonder if American men were crazy. They would “go into this whole thing about how they served in the military in Korea and how they had this amazing Korean girlfriend that was just like me. And will I be their girlfriend?”

The men, she said, ranged in age from the very young to the very old, and seemed never to understand that their attention was not flattering. “I’ve experienced racism. I’ve experienced sexism. But I never experienced the two like that as I have when I came to the United States.”

She said many Asian-American women viewed Tuesday’s shooting rampage as the culmination of this racialized misogyny.

“I’m telling you, most of us didn’t sleep well last night,” she said. “Because this was what we had feared all along — we were afraid that the objectification and the hypersexualization of our bodies was going to lead to death.”

Federal data suggest that across the country, the victims of most violent hate crimes are men. Yet a recent analysis by a group called Stop AAPI Hate, which collects reports of hate incidents against Asian-American and Pacific Islander communities, said that out of nearly 3,800 incidents recorded in 2020 and 2021, more than two-thirds of the reports came from women.

Hate crimes against Asian women are almost certainly undercounted, and Ms. Zia said one reason is that those with a sexual dimension tend to be classified as sex offenses, in effect erasing the racial aspect. Stereotypes of Asian women as submissive may embolden aggressors, she said. “We’re seen as vulnerable,” she said. “You know — the object that won’t fight back.”

Very little is known about the motives of the Atlanta gunman, but organizations that track hate crimes have paid increasing attention to misogyny as a “gateway drug” to other types of extremism, such as violent racism, in the wake of mass shootings at yoga and fitness studios frequented by women and the slaughter of 10 people in Toronto in 2018 by a self-described “incel,” or involuntary celibate.

The deaths of 77 people in Norway in a shooting and bombing attack in 2011 were widely portrayed as a result of right-wing extremism, but the attacker, Anders Breivik, also viewed feminism as a significant threat.

In 2018 the Southern Poverty Law Center and the National Consortium for the Study of Terrorism and Responses to Terrorism began to track what they call male supremacist terrorism, fueled by aggrieved male entitlement and a desire to preserve traditional gender roles, according to a brief by the International Centre for Counter-Terrorism. The Anti-Defamation League published a report called “When Women Are the Enemy: The Intersection of Misogyny and White Supremacy.”

Scholars say the fetishization of Asian women, and a corresponding emasculation of Asian men, have long histories shaped by United States law and policy. The Page Act of 1875, which ostensibly banned the importation of women for prostitution, effectively prevented Chinese women from entering the United States, while laws prohibiting mixed-race marriages left male Chinese immigrants perpetual bachelors.

Kyeyoung Park, a professor of anthropology and Asian-American studies at the University of California, Los Angeles, said Asian immigrants have historically been viewed exclusively through the lens of their labor or businesses.

In the case of the spas in Georgia, she said capitalism based on racial exploitation has been intertwined with the sexualization of Asian women, and particularly Korean women, over many decades. The police have not said whether any of the three spas had ties to sex work.

“I think the origin of these massage parlors can be traced back to Korean War brides and military wives,” Dr. Park said.

Overseas, poverty and the privations of war gave rise to a prostitution industry that provided inexpensive sex to American servicemen in Korea, the Philippines, Thailand and Vietnam, compounding stereotypes of Asian women as exotic sex objects or manipulators trying to entrap American husbands.

Sexual imperialism was not limited to Americans; the Japanese also forced Chinese, Filipino and Korean women into prostitution as so-called comfort women in the 1930s and ’40s.

Many women who were in the sex trade were brought to the United States as brides, and some of them who were later separated or divorced from their husbands started massage parlors, a history that likely helped shape a perception of all Asian-run spas as illicit and the women who work in them as sex workers, Dr. Park said.

The fetishization of Asian women was reinforced in popular culture, most notably with the lines spoken by a sex worker in a scene in “Full Metal Jacket,” a Vietnam War movie, as two soldiers try to bargain down her price: “Me so horny. Me love you long time.”

Divorced from their origin, those lines have become a come-on used in what Ellen Wu, a historian at Indiana University Bloomington and the author of “The Color of Success: Asian Americans and the Origins of the Model Minority,” called a “racially specific type of catcalling.”

“A few words pack an entire history into a sentence,” she said.

Several advocates said they had spent the last year combating the notion that hate and violence against Asian-Americans, and particularly Asian-American women, were something new.

“There are many women who have died because of sexual violence directed at them that was also racialized, but it has never been at the scale where the whole country is watching and talking about it,” Ms. Choimorrow said. “And what really upsets me is that it has taken something this tragic for me to be able to tell the story.”

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I wonder what kind of solution could there be in a medium term to issues like described above. Hard to imagine...
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