by ti-amie Tournament: Omnium Banque Nationale présenté par Rogers
Location: Montreal, Canada
Level: WTA 1000
Duration: July 27 - August 7, 2025
Total Financial Commitment: $5,152,599
Surface: Hard
Pos Player Rank
1 ARYNA SABALENKA 1
2 COCO GAUFF (USA) 2
3 JESSICA PEGULA (USA) 3
4 IGA SWIATEK (POL) 4
5 JASMINE PAOLINI (ITA) 5
6 QINWEN ZHENG (CHN) 6
7 MIRRA ANDREEVA 7
8 MADISON KEYS (USA) 8
9 PAULA BADOSA (ESP) 9
10 EMMA NAVARRO (USA) 10
11 ELENA RYBAKINA (KAZ) 11
12 AMANDA ANISIMOVA (USA) 12
13 ELINA SVITOLINA (UKR) 13
14 KAROLINA MUCHOVA (CZE) 14
15 DIANA SHNAIDER 15
16 BARBORA KREJCIKOVA (CZE) 16
17 EKATERINA ALEXANDROVA 17
18 DARIA KASATKINA (AUS) 18
19 MARKETA VONDROUSOVA(CZE) PR18
20 LIUDMILA SAMSONOVA 19
21 BEATRIZ HADDAD MAIA (BRA) 20
22 JELENA OSTAPENKO (LAT) 21
23 CLARA TAUSON (DEN) 22
24 ELISE MERTENS (BEL) 23
25 MAGDALENA FRECH (POL) 24
26 DONNA VEKIC (CRO) 25
27 MARTA KOSTYUK (UKR) 26
28 LINDA NOSKOVA (CZE) 27
29 SOFIA KENIN (USA) 28
30 MAGDA LINETTE (POL) 29
31 MCCARTNEY KESSLER (USA) 30
32 ASHLYN KRUEGER (USA) 31
33 XINYU WANG (CHN) 32
34 YULIA PUTINTSEVA (KAZ) 33
35 REBECCA SRAMKOVA (SVK) 34
36 BELINDA BENCIC (SUI) 35
37 PEYTON STEARNS (USA) 36
38 OLGA DANILOVIC (SRB) 37
39 SORANA CRISTEA(ROU) PR37
40 LEYLAH FERNANDEZ (CAN) 38
41 ANNA KALINSKAYA 39
42 EMMA RADUCANU (GBR) 40
43 MAYA JOINT (AUS) 41
44 DAYANA YASTREMSKA (UKR) 42
45 KATIE BOULTER (GBR) 43
46 ANASTASIA POTAPOVA 44
47 TATJANA MARIA (GER) 45
48 VERONIKA KUDERMETOVA 46
49 LULU SUN (NZL) 47
50 MARIE BOUZKOVA (CZE) 48
51 ELINA AVANESYAN (ARM) 49
52 ANASTASIA PAVLYUCHENKOVA 50
53 ZHU, LIN(CHN) PR50
54 SONAY KARTAL (GBR) 51
55 JAQUELINE CRISTIAN (ROU) 52
56 NAOMI OSAKA (JPN) 53
57 DANIELLE COLLINS (USA) 54
58 HAILEY BAPTISTE (USA) 55
59 ALEXANDRA EALA (PHI) 56
60 CAMILA OSORIO (COL) 57
61 ELENA-GABRIELA RUSE (ROU) 58
62 ONS JABEUR (TUN) 59
63 ALYCIA PARKS (USA) 60
64 EVA LYS (GER) 61
65 JESSICA BOUZAS MANEIRO (ESP) 62
66 LUCIA BRONZETTI (ITA) 63
67 POLINA KUDERMETOVA 64
68 ANN LI (USA) 65
69 ANASTASIJA SEVASTOVA(LAT) PR65
70 LOIS BOISSON (FRA) 66
71 CAROLINE DOLEHIDE (USA) 67
72 YULIIA STARODUBTSEVA (UKR) 68
by ti-amie Yastremska is out due to visa issues.
Mboko & Andreescu have been given WC's.
by
ashkor87 ti-amie wrote: ↑Sun Jul 13, 2025 12:08 am
Yastremska is out due to visa issues.
wonder why a Ukrainian would have visa issues..?
by
skatingfan ti-amie wrote: ↑Sun Jul 13, 2025 12:08 am
Yastremska is out due to visa issues.
Mboko & Andreescu have been given WC's.
ashkor87 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 13, 2025 2:57 am
ti-amie wrote: ↑Sun Jul 13, 2025 12:08 am
Yastremska is out due to visa issues.
wonder why a Ukrainian would have visa issues..?
Back in March, Yastremska faced a similar ordeal upon arriving in the U.S. ahead of Indian Wells, revealing she was nearly deported to Ukraine due to a lost passport that allegedly invalidated her visa under U.S. customs regulations. For now, her participation in the WTA 1000 in Cincinnati and the US Open remains uncertain.
https://en.tennistemple.com/actu/we-are ... roces/Dmbf
by ashkor87 Yes, I had forgotten ..Ukraine is the enemy now...or at least not the friend...
by JTContinental Genie Bouchard is retiring at this tournament
by ponchi101 Who?
Sorry, just being a jerk.
One of the strangest careers ever. That 2014 was a signature year. And then, we know how it went.
by ti-amie Qualifying Draw
(1)Laura Siegemund vs Nao Hibino
(2)Kamilla Rakhimova vs Astra Sharma
(3)Yue Yuan vs Whitney Osuigwe
(4)Antonia Ruzic vs (WC)Dasha Plekhanova
(5)Cristina Bucsa vs Priscilla Hon
(6)Elsa Jacquemot vs (WC)Carol Zhao
(7)Taylor Townsend vs Mihaela Buzarnescu
(8)Leolia Jeanjean vs (WC)Cadence Brace
(9)Rebeka Masarova vs Yafan Wang
(10)Viktoriya Tomova vs (WC)Katherine Sebov
(11)Aoi Ito vs Aliaksandra Sasnovich
(12)Varvara Gracheva vs Maddison Inglis
(13)Katie Volynets vs Jodie Burrage
(14)Talia Gibson vs Louisa Chirico
(15)Shuai Zhang vs Destanee Aiava
(16)Bernarda Pera vs Madison Brengle
by patrick Why the WTA draw come out so late?
by ti-amie Main Draw Singles
[1] C. Gauff/BYE
D. Collins vs Qualifier
Qualifier vs V. Kudermetova
[29] O. Danilovic/BYE
[23] S. Kenin/BYE
K. Birrell vs [WC] V. Mboko
M. Uchijima vs M. Bouzkova
[14] D. Shnaider/BYE
[12] E. Alexandrova/BYE
L. Zhu vs Qualifier
S. Lamens vs P. Kudermetova
[18] B. Haddad Maia/BYE
[26] A. Krueger/BYE
Qualifier vs J. Bouzas Maneiro
Qualifier vs Qualifier
[7] J. Paolini/BYE
[4] M. Andreeva/BYE
[WC] B. Andreescu vs B. Krejcikova
M. Joint vs L. Fernandez
[28] M. Kessler/BYE
[24] M. Kostyuk/BYE
M. Vondrousova vs A. Eala
C. Dolehide vs A. Blinkova
[15] D. Kasatkina/BYE
[9] E. Rybakina/BYE
Qualifier vs H. Baptiste
J. Cristian vs [WC] M. Stakusic
[20] L. Noskova/BYE
[30] D. Yastremska/BYE
Qualifier vs C. Osorio
Qualifier vs [WC] R. Marino
[8] E. Navarro/BYE
[5] A. Anisimova/BYE
S. Cirstea vs L. Sun
E. Ruse vs E. Raducanu
[32] P. Stearns/BYE
[19] E. Mertens/BYE
A. Li vs A. Kalinskaya
Qualifier vs [WC] K. Cross
[10] E. Svitolina/BYE
[13] L. Samsonova/BYE
Qualifier vs N. Osaka
K. Boulter vs R. Zarazua
[22] J. Ostapenko/BYE
[25] M. Linette/BYE
A. Tomljanovic vs A. Sevastova
M. Sakkari vs [WC] C. Branstine
[3] J. Pegula/BYE
[6] M. Keys/BYE
T. Maria vs Qualifier
A. Parks vs C. McNally
[31] R. Sramkova/BYE
[17] B. Bencic/BYE
[WC] E. Bouchard vs E. Arango
Qualifier vs A. Potapova
[11] K. Muchova/BYE
[16] C. Tauson/BYE
[WC] E. Mandlik vs L Bronzetti
Qualifier vs Y. Starodubtseva
[21] M. Frech/BYE
[27] A. Pavlyuchenkova/BYE
E. Lys vs Qualifier
Y. Putintseva vs Qualifier
[2] I. Swiatek/BYE
by ti-amie Sunday Order of Play
Centre Court
Starts at 11:00 AM
ROU J. Cristian vs CAN M. Stakusic
Upcoming
CZE M. Vondrousova vs PHI A. Eala
Upcoming
AUS K. Birrell vs CAN V. Mboko
Upcoming
CAN B. Andreescu vs CZE B. Krejcikova
Not before: 19:00
Upcoming
FRA E. Jacquemot vs CAN R. Marino
Rogers
Starts at 11:00 AM
NED S. Lamens vs RUS P. Kudermetova
Upcoming
CHN L. Zhu vs FRA V. Gracheva
Upcoming
ESP C. Bucsa vs RUS V. Kudermetova
Upcoming
USA D. Collins vs BUL V. Tomova
Not before: 18:00
Upcoming
USA W. Osuigwe vs USA H. Baptiste
Court 5
Starts at 11:00 AM
USA K. Volynets vs JPN A. Ito
Upcoming
USA L. Chirico vs ESP J. Bouzas Maneiro
Upcoming
USA B. Pera vs COL C. Osorio
by ti-amie Monday Order of Play
Centre Court
Starts at 11:00 AM
RUS K. Rakhimova vs CAN K. Cross
Upcoming
ROU E. Ruse vs GBR E. Raducanu
Upcoming
CAN A. Arseneault vs JPN N. Osaka
Upcoming
CAN E. Bouchard vs COL E. Arango
Upcoming
GRE M. Sakkari vs CAN C. Branstine
Rogers
Starts at 11:00 AM
GER T. Maria vs GER L. Siegemund
Upcoming
ROU S. Cirstea vs NZL L. Sun
Upcoming
GBR K. Boulter vs MEX R. Zarazua
Upcoming
AUS A. Tomljanovic vs LAT A. Sevastova
Upcoming
CRO A. Ruzic vs RUS A. Potapova
Court 5
Starts at 11:00 AM
CHN Y. Wang vs UKR Y. Starodubtseva
Upcoming
JPN M. Uchijima vs CZE M. Bouzkova
Upcoming
USA E. Mandlik vs ITA L. Bronzetti
Court 9
Starts at 11:00 AM
KAZ Y. Putintseva vs CHN H. Guo
Upcoming
USA C. Dolehide vs RUS A. Blinkova
Upcoming
GER E. Lys vs FRA L. Jeanjean
by ashkor87 Glad to see Andreescu back and winning...
by
skatingfan ashkor87 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 28, 2025 1:52 am
Glad to see Andreescu back and winning...
She rolled her ankle at the end of the match - it's not clear if she will be able to play her next match.
by ashkor87 this court is rated significantly slower than average.. look for Anisimova, Swiatek, even Rybakina to do well here..Rybakina and Anisimova needa little more time to hit their shots, and neither is the quickest mover out there.. Swiatek is.. Swiatek... not clear how Coco will do, didnt do all that well at IW, where the court was slow, but did do well at RG, so who knows.. her game is adaptable enough..though I still think she will do better at Cinci than here, because the court there is significantly faster.
by jazzyg The Siegemund-Maria match on T2 was entertaining. I believe 163 points were decided at the net, which has to be a modern-day record. Some points had both of them at the net in volley exchanges.
Siegemund blew four match points over three games in the second set when I had not started watching but pulled it out 7-2 in the third-set tiebreak. The funny thing is they were playing for the right to face Madison Keys, whom both of them beat on grass recently.
by ponchi101 163 points is indeed such a high count that you may be (most likely) right. I gather you would need to look for a Navs/Mandlikova or Mandlikova/Khode-Kilsh to find a count of points at the net that high.
Maybe Navs/Sukova in that memorable Aussie semi.
by ti-amie Tuesday Order of Play
Centre Court
Starts at 11:00 AM
CAN R. Marino vs USA E. Navarro (8)
Upcoming
AUS M. Joint vs CAN L. Fernandez
Upcoming
RUS M. Andreeva (4) vs CAN B. Andreescu
Upcoming
USA C. Gauff (1) vs USA D. Collins
Upcoming
USA S. Kenin (23) vs CAN V. Mboko
Rogers
Starts at 11:00 AM
UKR D. Yastremska (30) vs COL C. Osorio
Upcoming
UKR M. Kostyuk (24) vs CZE M. Vondrousova
Upcoming
JPN A. Ito vs ITA J. Paolini (7)
Upcoming
KAZ E. Rybakina (9) vs USA H. Baptiste
Upcoming
NED S. Lamens vs BRA B. Haddad Maia (18)
Court 5
Starts at 11:00 AM
RUS A. Blinkova vs AUS D. Kasatkina (15)
Upcoming
USA A. Li vs RUS A. Kalinskaya
Upcoming
RUS V. Kudermetova vs SRB O. Danilovic (29)
Upcoming
CZE M. Bouzkova vs RUS D. Shnaider (14)
Court 9
Starts at 11:00 AM
USA A. Parks vs USA C. McNally
Upcoming
ROU J. Cristian vs CZE L. Noskova (20)
Upcoming
USA A. Krueger (26) vs ESP J. Bouzas Maneiro
Upcoming
RUS E. Alexandrova (12) vs CHN L. Zhu
by ashkor87 saw a bit of Osaka's match - court does seem slow, Osaka took full advantage by winding up for some of the biggest forehands I have seen in a long time.
Should suit Osaka, Anisimova, Swiatek, Samsonova and Rybakina too, all of who enjoy having a little extra time to whack the ball..Gauff, Pegula, Raducanu dont need it, they would prefer the ball to come on to them fast.. Andreeva, I am not sure, will have to wait and see, she seems very versatile.
by
ashkor87 jazzyg wrote: ↑Mon Jul 28, 2025 6:37 pm
The Siegemund-Maria match on T2 was entertaining. I believe 163 points were decided at the net, which has to be a modern-day record. Some points had both of them at the net in volley exchanges.
Siegemund blew four match points over three games in the second set when I had not started watching but pulled it out 7-2 in the third-set tiebreak. The funny thing is they were playing for the right to face Madison Keys, whom both of them beat on grass recently.
Sounds fun..must see if I can get it on YouTube
by
ashkor87 ashkor87 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 29, 2025 5:21 am
jazzyg wrote: ↑Mon Jul 28, 2025 6:37 pm
The Siegemund-Maria match on T2 was entertaining. I believe 163 points were decided at the net, which has to be a modern-day record. Some points had both of them at the net in volley exchanges.
Siegemund blew four match points over three games in the second set when I had not started watching but pulled it out 7-2 in the third-set tiebreak. The funny thing is they were playing for the right to face Madison Keys, whom both of them beat on grass recently.
Sounds fun..must see if I can get it on YouTube
saw a bit of it, very good! Both players realize that on a slow court, volleying is a viable way to win a point, espeically if you dont have the power to blast through the court.
by ashkor87 Pegula's back to back Rogers Cup wins are even more impressive when you consider that one was in Montreal, the other in Toronto - both quite different courts! (at least, so I imagine.. havent checked)
by JTContinental Rumors of Yastremska's visa issues seem to be untrue, as she is oncourt right now.
by ponchi101 Paolini's magic summer of 2024 looks pretty far away now. She lost to Ito, 7-5 in the 3rd set TB.
That's how difficult sustaining that level is. She won Rome and since then it has not been fun. Let's see if she can come back to her form.
by ptmcmahon She won Rome and made semis at Miami. She isnt at the same level as last summer but doesn't feel like she's slipped too much. Obviously bad loss today though.
by ti-amie Paolini was a virtually unknown player on the ITF circuit. Now she's expected to make the quarters if not the semi's when she plays. Not to mention off court distractions.
This was bound to happen but I hope she gets people around her who will keep the noise at bay so she can focus on her tennis.
by ti-amie Wednesday Order of Play
Centre Court
Starts at 11:00 AM
RUS L. Samsonova (13) vs JPN N. Osaka
Upcoming
CHN H. Guo vs POL I. Swiatek (2)
Upcoming
GRE M. Sakkari vs USA J. Pegula (3)
Upcoming
SUI B. Bencic (17) vs CAN E. Bouchard
Upcoming
RUS K. Rakhimova vs UKR E. Svitolina (10)
Rogers
Starts at 11:00 AM
USA M. Keys (6) vs GER L. Siegemund
Upcoming
DEN C. Tauson (16) vs ITA L. Bronzetti
Upcoming
ITA Errani/ITA Paolini (1) vs CAN Fernandez/CAN Fernandez
Upcoming
GBR E. Raducanu vs USA P. Stearns (32)
Upcoming
USA A. Anisimova (5) vs NZL L. Sun
Court 5
Starts at 11:00 AM
POL M. Linette (25) vs LAT A. Sevastova
Upcoming
MEX R. Zarazua vs LAT J. Ostapenko (22)
Upcoming
BEL E. Mertens (19) vs RUS A. Kalinskaya
Upcoming
CRO A. Ruzic vs CZE K. Muchova (11)
Upcoming
RUS Khromacheva/INA Sutjiadi vs USA Townsend/CHN Zhang (3)
Court 9
Starts at 11:00 AM
AUS M. Joint vs USA M. Kessler (28)
Upcoming
USA C. McNally vs SVK R. Sramkova (31)
Upcoming
HUN Stollar/TPE Wu vs USA Gauff/USA Kessler
Upcoming
UKR Y. Starodubtseva vs POL M. Frech (21)
Upcoming
RUS A. Pavlyuchenkova (27) vs GER E. Lys
Court 6
Starts at 11:00 AM
KAZ Danilina/SRB Krunic vs AUS Kasatkina/CZE Noskova
Upcoming
SRB Danilovic/TPE Hsieh vs RUS Andreeva/RUS Shnaider (5)
Upcoming
CAN Cross/CAN Mboko vs TPE Chan/CHN Jiang
Not Before 2:00PM - TBA
Upcoming
USA Dolehide/USA Kenin vs CAN Dabrowski/NZL Routliffe (2)
Not Before 2:00PM - TBA
Upcoming
HUN Babos/BRA Stefani (8) vs CHN Xu/CHN Yang
by ashkor87 Paolini just split from her coach..maybe that is a factor..maybe it is a consequence..,!
by
skatingfan ashkor87 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 30, 2025 12:13 am
Paolini just split from her coach..maybe that is a factor..maybe it is a consequence..,!
She split with her coach after an early loss at Wimbledon - so it probably wasn't the coach.
by ti-amie I've been looking and so far haven't found video of the very bad call against Canadian Carson Branstine during the third set of her match vs Sakkari. She wasn't allowed/couldn't register a challenge according to the comm because you can't argue with a machine.
The official reason was that she hit the ball but if I remember it correctly she didn't put it in play.
by
ti-amie Apparently yesterday was a mess. A fan posted this on the big WTA fan site. When the players are ignoring the ELC there's a huge problem.
Obviously nobody who has posted in this thread watched Cirstea v Sun yesterday. Cirstea served an "ace" down the middle in the first game, which umpire Aline Rocha entered into the system because there was no "fault" call, only to see both players agree that it WAS a fault and for Cirstea to serve again (she won the great rally on her second serve anyway).
by ashkor87 Too many mistakes by the electronic line calling system...why not compromise by going with the electronic system but empower the umpire to correct/overrule an obvious error...that would not require rehiring of dozens of people, and the umpire is anyway sitting there...
by ti-amie This third set between Gauff and Collins has been a war. Gauff is up 5-4 now but was up 4-2 earlier.
by
ashkor87 Japanese qualifier Aoi Ito drew Jasmine Paolini into her web of forehand slices and unpredictable shot selection to pull off a comeback from match point down in the Omnium Banque Nationale second round, posting her first career Top 10 win.
https://www.wtatennis.com/news/4328120/ ... n-montreal
If this is how it went, a good coach could certainly have saved Paolini..by reminding her again and again not to panic, not to press too hard...
by
ti-amie Gauff wins the war 7-5, 4-6, 7-6(2) over Collins who served for the match. Gauff had 74 unforced errors to Collins 80 in the 2h54m match.

by ti-amie The 18 year old Victoria Mboko will play Sofia Kenin next.
by ponchi101 Coaches take too much credit, and take too much blame.
Paolini is a 27 year old veteran. If she still needs to be reminded not to panic, it is not the coaches. Especially for a top 10 player that has gone very deep at slams.
by
ponchi101 ashkor87 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 30, 2025 1:27 am
Too many mistakes by the electronic line calling system...why not compromise by going with the electronic system but empower the umpire to correct/overrule an obvious error...that would not require rehiring of dozens of people, and the umpire is anyway sitting there...
Sooner or later this is going to happen on a huge point of a match. Set point or Match point. It will then be played over and over on TV and social media. And it will not be funny.
by JTContinental Paolini is just coming back down to earth. There was a lot of favorable draws that took her to those slam finals—she only played one seed before the FO final and it was a reeling Rybakina, and then only Keys (who retired in their match) and Emma Navarro before the Wimbledon final.
by
JTContinental ti-amie wrote: ↑Wed Jul 30, 2025 12:47 am
Apparently yesterday was a mess. A fan posted this on the big WTA fan site. When the players are ignoring the ELC there's a huge problem.
Obviously nobody who has posted in this thread watched Cirstea v Sun yesterday. Cirstea served an "ace" down the middle in the first game, which umpire Aline Rocha entered into the system because there was no "fault" call, only to see both players agree that it WAS a fault and for Cirstea to serve again (she won the great rally on her second serve anyway).
This wont help Montreal’s rep as the worst venue on the tour
by
skatingfan JTContinental wrote: ↑Wed Jul 30, 2025 3:04 am
This wont help Montreal’s rep as the worst venue on the tour
That's very unfortunate - Tennis Canada may not be able to hang on to the event for much longer.
by ashkor87 interesting matchups tomorrow - Osaka vs Samsonova, Pegula vs Sakkari..I dont expect Pegula to lose but Osaka might - Samsonova is very formidable on a slow-medium court like this..she has as much power as Osaka, will that be enough? we shall find out.
by
JTContinental skatingfan wrote: ↑Wed Jul 30, 2025 1:01 pm
JTContinental wrote: ↑Wed Jul 30, 2025 3:04 am
This wont help Montreal’s rep as the worst venue on the tour
That's very unfortunate - Tennis Canada may not be able to hang on to the event for much longer.
Yes, it sounds like because of its location in a very busy section of the city, remodeling isn’t really in the cards. There was a brief window during the pandemic where changes could have been made, but nothing happened.
https://tennisuptodate.com/tennis-news ... n-montreal
I also read somewhere else that there are only 4 courts of enough quality to play professional tennis on and players have to navigate through an annoying series of chain link fences just to get to them, but have not verified.
by
skatingfan JTContinental wrote: ↑Wed Jul 30, 2025 4:28 pm
skatingfan wrote: ↑Wed Jul 30, 2025 1:01 pm
JTContinental wrote: ↑Wed Jul 30, 2025 3:04 am
This wont help Montreal’s rep as the worst venue on the tour
That's very unfortunate - Tennis Canada may not be able to hang on to the event for much longer.
Yes, it sounds like because of its location in a very busy section of the city, remodeling isn’t really in the cards. There was a brief window during the pandemic where changes could have been made, but nothing happened.
https://tennisuptodate.com/tennis-news ... n-montreal
I also read somewhere else that there are only 4 courts of enough quality to play professional tennis on and players have to navigate through an annoying series of chain link fences just to get to them, but have not verified.
Having spent a fair amount of time in the venue I think the chain link fence thing is an exaggeration. Many tennis courts have chainlink around them, but the venue being crampt by the surrounding park is true. Toronto has the same problem. The problem for both sites is that Tennis Canada will never have the money that the private investors that own most of the other 1000 events have to spend on the type of upgrades required.
by ti-amie So the talk about Elmo moving the event to Austin is not just idle chit chat huh?
by ti-amie Thursday Order of Play
Centre Court
Starts at 12:30 PM
UKR M. Kostyuk (24) vs AUS D. Kasatkina (15)
Upcoming
USA C. Gauff (1) vs RUS V. Kudermetova
Upcoming
CAN V. Mboko vs CZE M. Bouzkova
Upcoming
KAZ E. Rybakina (9) vs ROU J. Cristian
Rogers
Starts at 12:30 PM
CHN L. Zhu vs NED S. Lamens
Upcoming
RUS M. Andreeva (4) vs USA M. Kessler (28)
Upcoming
ESP J. Bouzas Maneiro vs JPN A. Ito
Upcoming
UKR D. Yastremska (30) vs USA E. Navarro (8)
Court 5
Starts at 12:30 PM
AUS Joint/USA McNally vs USA Krawczyk/MEX Olmos
Upcoming
USAStearns/CZEVondrousova vs USA Keys/USA Pegula
Upcoming
RUS Rakhimova/KAZ Voskoboeva vs NOR Eikeri/JPN Hozumi
Upcoming
RUS Kudermetova/BEL Mertens (4) vs BRA Haddad Maia/GERSiegemund
Court 9
Starts at 12:30 PM
USA Muhammad/NED Schuurs (6) vs JPN Aoyama/ESP Bucsa
Upcoming
CZE Krejcikova/LAT Ostapenko vs SVK Mihalikova/GBR Nicholls
Upcoming
POL Piter/USA Santamaria vs CHN Guo/RUS Panova
Upcoming
USA Melichar-Martinez/RUS Samsonova vs UKR Kichenok/AUS Perez (7)
by
skatingfan ti-amie wrote: ↑Wed Jul 30, 2025 11:34 pm
So the talk about Elmo moving the event to Austin is not just idle chit chat huh?
Hard to know - I've never seen a list of ATP license agreements to know when they expire. We tend to think of the big tournaments as not moving, but the ATP 1000 events have shifted over the years from time to time.
by
martini4me JTContinental wrote: ↑Wed Jul 30, 2025 3:04 am
ti-amie wrote: ↑Wed Jul 30, 2025 12:47 am
Apparently yesterday was a mess. A fan posted this on the big WTA fan site. When the players are ignoring the ELC there's a huge problem.
Obviously nobody who has posted in this thread watched Cirstea v Sun yesterday. Cirstea served an "ace" down the middle in the first game, which umpire Aline Rocha entered into the system because there was no "fault" call, only to see both players agree that it WAS a fault and for Cirstea to serve again (she won the great rally on her second serve anyway).
This wont help Montreal’s rep as the worst venue on the tour
In what way is Montreal the worst event on tour? The facilities specifically? (I heard on a podcast that they don't have enough practice courts for the expanded 96-player field, so are shuttling some players to another tennis facility (where they've put down the same surface) ten minutes away.) Not fan support, I would think.
Meanwhile Genie Bouchard is looking to stave off retirement again, now up a break against Bencic in the third set (and has been playing very well).
by martini4me And, predictably enough, after playing top-tier tennis for a set and a half, she really drops off and gets broken two out of three service games, as soon as I posted that.
by
JTContinental martini4me wrote: ↑Thu Jul 31, 2025 1:02 am
JTContinental wrote: ↑Wed Jul 30, 2025 3:04 am
ti-amie wrote: ↑Wed Jul 30, 2025 12:47 am
Apparently yesterday was a mess. A fan posted this on the big WTA fan site. When the players are ignoring the ELC there's a huge problem.
This wont help Montreal’s rep as the worst venue on the tour
In what way is Montreal the worst event on tour? The facilities specifically? (I heard on a podcast that they don't have enough practice courts for the expanded 96-player field, so are shuttling some players to another tennis facility (where they've put down the same surface) ten minutes away.) Not fan support, I would think.
Meanwhile Genie Bouchard is looking to stave off retirement again, now up a break against Bencic in the third set (and has been playing very well).
As far as I know, it’s been common knowledge that players on both tours hate this event when it’s their turn in Montreal, mainly because of the facility. I’ve heard commentators talking about this frequently since at least the early 2000’s. I linked to an article written by someone who trains there on the last page which details most of the reasons, but they are largely logistical and not related to the actual running of the event itself or lack of fan support.
by ponchi101 Well, Genie is gone.
A career that must have some lessons for younger players. What happened to a player that reached SF/SF/F/QF at all slams one year, and then, was unable not even to get more tractions, but to even come close to that.
She was legit in 2014. And I don't think it was the fame or the spotlight. Something happened with her tennis. And that has to be examined.
Wish her the best.
by ashkor87 She hit her head in the usopen locker room .never the same after
by JTContinental Still ranked #12 in pickleball
Nice to see her score one last win on her way out
by ashkor87 Some interesting doubles pairings.. ostapenko with krejcikova, pegula with keys..I don't know how good Keys is at doubles, but the others are all top-notch...osta's power with krejcikova's touch looks like s good combination
by Owendonovan A mere 19 games of DF's.
by ashkor87 And yet she wins! Shame on her opponents..
by
ponchi101 ashkor87 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 31, 2025 2:57 pm
And yet she wins! Shame on her opponents..
Exactly.
The math is simple. She is basically giving you one free point per service game. She starts every game 0-15. And you still can't beat her.
How long before a coach tells her: "You will serve the entire match serving 2nd serves. Then, when you can do that and hit zero DF's, we return to first serves".
Because it can't be worse.
Second player in dire need of Mats Wilander (after he is done with Perricard).
by JTContinental Coco's biggest strength is working around her weaknesses to still win a ton of matches. I'd call it "winning ugly" but since I hate Brad Gilbert, I refuse.
by ponchi101 It's a different winning ugly. Gilbert's specialty was to make the other player play bad. Coco does not do that. She does not bring the other player's game down.
by ti-amie Friday Order of Play
Centre Court
Starts at 12:30 PM
JPN N. Osaka vs LAT J. Ostapenko (22)
Upcoming
LAT A. Sevastova vs USA J. Pegula (3)
Upcoming
GER E. Lys vs POL I. Swiatek (2)
Upcoming
USA A. Anisimova (5) vs GBR E. Raducanu
Rogers
Starts at 12:30 PM
DEN C. Tauson (16) vs UKR Y. Starodubtseva
Upcoming
USA M. Keys (6) vs USA C. McNally
Upcoming
SUI B. Bencic (17) vs CZE K. Muchova (11)
Upcoming
RUS A. Kalinskaya vs UKR E. Svitolina (10)
Court 5
Starts at 12:30 PM
KAZ Danilina/SRB Krunic vs USA Townsend/CHN Zhang (3)
Upcoming
USA Gauff/USA Kessler vs UKR Kichenok/AUS Perez (7)
Upcoming
TBD/TBD vs TBD/TBD
Court 9
Starts at 12:30 PM
HUN Babos/BRA Stefani (8) vs TPE Chan/CHN Jiang
Upcoming
USA Stearns/CZE Vondrousova vs SRB Danilovic/TPE Hsieh
Upcoming
RUS Rakhimova/KAZ Voskoboeva vs USA Dolehide/USA Kenin
by ti-amie
I saw a lot of this match. Mirra was out of control and had one meltdown where she repeatedly banged her thigh with her fist in frustration.
She fell in the second set and got a NFL worthy wrap on her left foot but Kessler held her nerve and won.
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ti-amie I wonder if this could be the issue?
Something to keep an eye on for the NA hardcourt season: At the USO last year, 1st serve%s dipped (down to 57%) and double fault rates skyrocketed (close to Medvedev's seasonal average) due to the hard-to-control balls being used. This trend appears to be repeating itself in Canada so far.
Discussion
If you look at the completed ATP matches so far there are a ton of sub-60% 1st serve rates
Iga Swiatek in her interview on Roddick's podcast also said that the balls seem much lighter to her when practicing with them and that they're much harder to control
This also has rallying implications as well because the Cincy/USO balls last year tended to not take spin very well at all which was part of the reason certain high ranked players had massive issues keeping it in play
At first it might seem like grasping at straws but there have been some pretty clear massive swings in results among even high ranked players with different ball conditions and Iga outright said it herself
by JTContinental Gauff kournikovaed a serve so badly today, I might rename it gauffing.
by
ti-amie Teenager Victoria Mboko of Canada defeated Marie Bouzkova 1-6, 6-3, 6-0.
A slow start from Mboko but then she put on a show in front of the home crowd. Mboko is into the 4th round on her debut and will play top seed Gauff next

by ashkor87 Coco suddenly looks more mature, tougher...what has she done?
by
ponchi101 ashkor87 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 01, 2025 3:37 am
Coco suddenly looks more mature, tougher...what has she done?
Aaaah... grow up?
She is still only 21. She will mature in front of our eyes. She is simply doing that.
Andreeva will too.
We keep forgetting. These are kids. Barely able to go buy beer in the USA. In Andreeva's case, get a driver's license.
by ashkor87 What is up with Pegula? Not doing well this year ..did win a couple of lesser tournaments but really poor performance in majors xnd bigger tournaments. Montreal is a bit slow, but she won this 2 years ago. I am no Pegula fan, but even I am surprised..she should do better at Cincy, though, where the court is faster, quite a bit faster ..anyone have any theories about her insipid form?
by ti-amie Saturday Order of Play
Centre Court
Starts at 12:30 PM
USA M. Kessler (28) vs UKR M. Kostyuk (24)
Upcoming
KAZ E. Rybakina (9) vs UKR D. Yastremska (30)
Upcoming
USA C. Gauff (1) vs CAN V. Mboko
Upcoming
CHN L. Zhu vs ESP J. Bouzas Maneiro
Rogers
Starts at 12:30 PM
ITA Errani/ITA Paolini (1) vs CZE Krejcikova/LAT Ostapenko
Upcoming
JPN Aoyama/ESP Bucsa vs AUS Joint/USA McNally
Quarterfinals
Upcoming
TPE Chan/CHNJiang vs USA Townsend/CHN Zhang (3)
Quarterfinals
Upcoming
CHN Guo/RUS Panova vs SRB Danilovic/TPE Hsieh
by
ashkor87 ashkor87 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 28, 2025 7:25 am
this court is rated significantly slower than average.. look for Anisimova, Swiatek, even Rybakina to do well here..Rybakina and Anisimova needa little more time to hit their shots, and neither is the quickest mover out there.. Swiatek is.. Swiatek... not clear how Coco will do, didnt do all that well at IW, where the court was slow, but did do well at RG, so who knows.. her game is adaptable enough..though I still think she will do better at Cinci than here, because the court there is significantly faster.
So far so good..all as expected/predicted
by ashkor87 Great win for Muchova over Bencic but she is still unable to crush that double-hander...her arm must be injured still...
by JTContinental Her wrist seems permanently hampered, and she still manages to play the way she does when she can take the court.
by
ponchi101 ashkor87 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 02, 2025 4:25 am
Great win for Muchova over Bencic but she is still unable to crush that double-hander...her arm must be injured still...
I have always said that one of the worst things about sports is that, in almost all of them, the specific movements cannot be replicated in the gym. You can work out as hard as you want and as carefully as you want, but there is no real way you can replicate the impact and mechanics of a FH in the gym.
You have to go on the field and hit the actual stroke.
After such a lengthy layoff, she is still probably far away from peak tennis form.
Keeping the distances between the pros and us, I am going through that right now. My tennis elbow is getting better, but it is only getting better by going on court and hitting balls. All the off-the-court therapy means nothing if you don't go out there and play. No exercise is going to simulate the swinging motion AND the impact of the ball on your racquet (which goes straight to your arm).
by mick1303 I have a feeling that Iga will go on a tear now. Wimbledon win was liberating. It will be a while until she loses.
by JTContinental Her performance against Tauson should be a solid gauge on how dialed in she is against real competition.
by
ponchi101 mick1303 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 02, 2025 5:45 pm
I have a feeling that Iga will go on a tear now. Wimbledon win was liberating. It will be a while until she loses.
Agree.
I say that a good gauge will be a meeting Vs Gauff. Sure, she has the lead on the H2H, but Gauff seemed to have turned the tables recently. If Swiatek gains again on Coco, as you say, solid candidate for the USO.
by
ponchi101 ponchi101 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 02, 2025 6:37 pm
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Agree.
I say that a good gauge will be a meeting Vs Gauff. Sure, she has the lead on the H2H, but Gauff seemed to have turned the tables recently. If Swiatek gains again on Coco, as you say, solid candidate for the USO.
My jinxes are getting legendary...
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ti-amie
Mboko with the biggest win of her career. Her first ever top 20 win, and she is into her first wta quarter final. Gauff loses to a younger player for the second time in her career, both loses have been in Canada
Mboko will play Zhu or Bouzas Maneiro next
Victoria has been playing well here while Cori has seemed to struggle. Still I'm surprised Cori didn't win a set.
by ti-amie Sunday Order of Play
Centre Court
Starts at 12:30 PM
USA M. Keys (6) vs CZE K. Muchova (11)
Upcoming
JPN N. Osaka vs LAT A. Sevastova
Upcoming
DEN C. Tauson (16) vs POL I. Swiatek (2)
Upcoming
USA A. Anisimova (5) vs UKR E. Svitolina (10)
Rogers
Starts at 12:30 PM
Quarterfinals
JPN Aoyama/ESP Bucsa vs USA Dolehide/USA Kenin
Quarterfinals
Upcoming
CZE Krejcikova/LAT Ostapenko vs USA Gauff/USA Kessler
by jazzyg The Tennis Channel commentary about Gauff this tournament has been nauseating.
She has a serious problem with her serve and they kept talking about her mental toughness and how she would be fine and improve. Her resilience is impressive, but her mental toughness is in serious question with the continued yips on her serve that has lasted more than a year now. The fact is she beat two struggling players in Collins and Kudermetova whose better pasts made them think she had overcome tough opponents. When she ran into an actually good opponent, she won five games. Although she had chances to turn this one around like she did against Kudermetova, she could not do it because she did not get as much help.
Still, Andrea Petkovic insisted Gauff would use the loss as fuel just as she did the first-round loss to Kenin at 2022 Wimbledon. That's a big stretch. Whatever is going on in her head about her serve is no easy matter to fix, and in the short term it is more likely to affect the rest of her game than it is for her to suddenly fix the serve issues.
by ashkor87 saw a bit of the Mboko Gauff match.. mboko looks very impressive, a lot like Coco, actually..
by
ashkor87 ti-amie wrote: ↑Sun Aug 03, 2025 12:56 am
that was a lovely match, from the highlights.. great play by all, especially Krejcikova..loved the way Ostapenko was appreciating her partner's shots
by mick1303 Mboko has much cleaner and more classic stroke production.
by
ashkor87 mick1303 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 03, 2025 8:22 am
Mboko has much cleaner and more classic stroke production.
Yes, and her athletic ability seems awesome too
by
ponchi101 jazzyg wrote: ↑Sun Aug 03, 2025 4:47 am
Still, Andrea Petkovic insisted Gauff would use the loss as fuel just as she did the first-round loss to Kenin at 2022 Wimbledon. That's a big stretch. Whatever is going on in her head about her serve is no easy matter to fix, and in the short term it is more likely to affect the rest of her game than it is for her to suddenly fix the serve issues.
I agree with most of what you say, but I don't think her serve issues are totally mental. I think her grip does not allow her to control that brushing motion on her serve to make it a solid stroke.
She is a fine player. We can agree on that. But her grips are a bit wrong for some things. The FH grip is too extreme for low bounces, and her serve is what I just said.
I know, I know, I know. Iga has an extreme FH grip too, and she has done better. But she has learned to get very low for her FH with her legs, allowing her to get under the ball. Coco should go that way too, because at this stage in her career, changing a grip is asking for too much.
But she has to on the serve.
by ti-amie Monday Order of Play
Centre Court
Starts at 4:00 PM
Semifinals
USA Gauff/USA Kessler vs SRB Danilovic/TPE Hsieh
Upcoming
UKR M. Kostyuk (24) vs KAZ E. Rybakina (9)
Upcoming
CAN V. Mboko vs ESP J. Bouzas Maneiro
by ti-amie I saw Bouzas Maneiro play a couple of times during this tournament. She is an aggressive take no prisoners type of player. It'll be interesting to see if Mboko can neutralize her the way she did Cori.
by ti-amie Mboko played goddess like tennis in that first set.
by ti-amie Tauson takes the first set 7-6(1) over Swiatek.
by
JTContinental ti-amie wrote: ↑Sun Aug 03, 2025 10:33 pm
Mboko played goddess like tennis in that first set.
She has real potential.
I kind of clocked thus Tauson win over Iga
by ponchi101 Tauson takes the match.
What a strange tournament. But Tauson seems to be coming back to what we thought she would be.
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I like Mboko's clarifier: "So far in my career".
by ti-amie Tauson takes out Swiatek in straight sets 7-6(1), 6-3.
by jazzyg I have become quite the contarian on women's tennis, but in my view there is a much better chance that Swiatek's only tourney win this year will be Wimbledon than her going on a dominant run.
Sure seems like her performance in London was an outlier.
by dryrunguy I don't remember EVER watching Swiatek play and thinking she looked awkward. Out of position, yes. Not in the right postal code, yes. But tonight Tauson just made Iga look really, really awkward. The last game especially, IIRC.
by
ponchi101 jazzyg wrote: ↑Mon Aug 04, 2025 12:39 am
I have become quite the contarian on women's tennis, but in my view there is a much better chance that Swiatek's only tourney win this year will be Wimbledon than her going on a dominant run.
Sure seems like her performance in London was an outlier.
When you win a Slam, and the last three sets you won were 6-0, thinking you are going into a dominant phase was not unreasonable.
You know me. If she wins no more this year, fine. I won't mind it.
by ti-amie Svitolina through 6-4, 6-1 against a cranky out of sorts Anisimova.
Shelton is through.
Once again Fritz is playing the late match although they may have done him a solid because I think it was his girlfriend's birthday yesterday.
by
ashkor87 ti-amie wrote: ↑Mon Aug 04, 2025 1:52 am
Svitolina through 6-4, 6-1 against a cranky out of sorts Anisimova.
Shelton is through.
Once again Fritz is playing the late match although they may have done him a solid because I think it was his girlfriend's birthday yesterday.
saw only the highlights, from which you cant tell aything.. what did Svitolina do right or Anisimova do wrong?
by ashkor87 The good news is Muchova is hitting that double-hander now.. against Keys. Didnt win but she is getting her game back.
by
ponchi101 ashkor87 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 04, 2025 3:52 am
ti-amie wrote: ↑Mon Aug 04, 2025 1:52 am
Svitolina through 6-4, 6-1 against a cranky out of sorts Anisimova.
Shelton is through.
Once again Fritz is playing the late match although they may have done him a solid because I think it was his girlfriend's birthday yesterday.
saw only the highlights, from which you cant tell aything.. what did Svitolina do right or Anisimova do wrong?
Love the girl, and I wish her nothing but the best.
But Amanda has a history of disappearing in matches. If it is going well, she is a beautiful striker of the ball. The moment it gets a bit tough, she can't handle it.
Of course, this was not that other recent debacle. But that she fades in matches is a given. And the locker room surely knows.
by jazzyg In the previous round Svitolina had won in a romp 6-1, 6-1 over Kalinskaya, a personal favorite of mine who also tends to go away when she gets behind, so I was not that surprised by her scoreline against Anisimova.
I am very interested to see how Svitolina fares against Osaka. Different type of challenge, but yet another player who had not shown much resilience in her recent incarnation until she saved the two match points against Samsonova here in the second round.
by ti-amie Tuesday Order of Play
Centre Court
Starts at 4:00 PM
Semifinals
USA Townsend/CHN Zhang (3) vs USA Dolehide/USA Kenin
Quarterfinals
Upcoming
USA M. Keys (6) vs DEN C. Tauson (16)
Quarterfinals
Upcoming
UKR E. Svitolina (10) vs JPN N. Osaka
by ashkor87 Gauff and Kessler doing great in doubles...beat Osta and Krejcikova yesterday, Hsieh /Danilovic today...very impressive!
Easy to forget Coco was #1 in doubles not so very long ago...
by ashkor87 in a perverse way, mboko's win over Bouzas Manneiro impressed me even more than her win over Coco.. for a 17 year old, beating someone you are expected to beat, can be harder than beating someone you are not expected to beat...
by ponchi101 I have not been able to see her play because they are not showing Montreal here.
How far can she go? Are we talking a new Coco? Is she in the same path as Andreeva? Or Vaidisova?
by
ashkor87 ponchi101 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 05, 2025 2:00 pm
I have not been able to see her play because they are not showing Montreal here.
How far can she go? Are we talking a new Coco? Is she in the same path as Andreeva? Or Vaidisova?
Yes, I do think she can go far...very far ..win a major, some time in her career
by
JTContinental ponchi101 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 05, 2025 2:00 pm
I have not been able to see her play because they are not showing Montreal here.
How far can she go? Are we talking a new Coco? Is she in the same path as Andreeva? Or Vaidisova?
My opinion is that she is better than Andreeva. Andreeva moves better, but Mboko hits harder and has better court sense. It would not surprise me if she is in the top 10 by next year on her current trajectory.
by
ti-amie ashkor87 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 05, 2025 5:17 am
in a perverse way, mboko's win over Bouzas Manneiro impressed me even more than her win over Coco.. for a 17 year old, beating someone you are expected to beat, can be harder than beating someone you are not expected to beat...
I totally agree. Bouzas Maneiro went up 2-0 in the second set and I immediately thought "we're going three" but Victoria had other ideas and won the set 6-2 after winning the first set 6-4.
Did you notice how she was hitting vicious returns and that some of them were sailing out and next thing you know she's junk balling her opponent?
I have yet to see the name(s) of the women who appear to be her coaches. Let's hope she stays away from the celebrity coach merry-go-round.
by
ti-amie
Tauson knocks out another 2025 major winner, and is into her second wta 1000 semi final of the season. She will play Svitolina or Osaka next
by ti-amie Naomi easily over Elina 2 & 2. I'm surprised it was that easy for her.
by ti-amie Wednesday Order of Play
Centre Court
Starts at 3:00 PM
Final
USA Gauff/USA Kessler vs USA Townsend/CHN Zhang (3)
Semifinals
Upcoming
CAN V. Mboko vs KAZ E. Rybakina (9)
Semifinals
Upcoming
JPN N. Osaka vs DEN C. Tauson (16)
by
skatingfan ti-amie wrote: ↑Tue Aug 05, 2025 11:39 pm
I have yet to see the name(s) of the women who appear to be her coaches. Let's hope she stays away from the celebrity coach merry-go-round.
Natalie Tauziat - who has a long history working with Tennis Canada - is working with Mboko.
by
JTContinental ti-amie wrote: ↑Wed Aug 06, 2025 1:08 am
Naomi easily over Elina 2 & 2. I'm surprised it was that easy for her.
Naomi has seemed to have a little more fire under her this week. She's my pick to win from who is left.
by Owendonovan Naomi certainly has a different presence this tournament than she's had for a while.
by ponchi101 Gee, wonder if she made any recent changes recently that could have led to this radical improvement.
Just saying.
by Owendonovan Makes me wonder if any of these players with coaching issues ever reach out to a Serena or Kim Clijsters or others who had great long careers with just 2 coaches for some insights on how that worked for them?
by ti-amie Mboko and Rybakina 5-4 in Mboko's favor in the third set TB.
by atlpam Great composure from Mboko.
by ti-amie What an upset. Eighteen year old Victoria Mboko makes her first WTA Final defeating Elena Rybakina 1-6. 7-5, 7-6(4).
She'll face the winner of Osaka vs Tauson
by
ti-amie atlpam wrote: ↑Thu Aug 07, 2025 12:57 am
Great composure from Mboko.
She's played like this all week but I really expected she'd be on her way to Cincy tonight.
by ashkor87 Rybakina has no extra gear..when it gets close...
by ti-amie I don't get the WTA. They haven't put out an OoP for tomorrow presumably because there is a match still being played.
Meanwhile in Toronto Fritz is playing Shelton and they put out an OoP using either or for tomorrow's Finals.
by ti-amie Clara Tauson gave her a run for her money but Naomi Osaka wins their match 6-2, 7-6(7). She'll face Victoria Mboko in the Final.
by ti-amie Thursday Order of Play
Centre Court
Starts at 6:00 PM
Final
CAN V. Mboko vs JPN N. Osaka
by ashkor87 I dont expect Osaka to lose to mboko now.. Rybakina did, but Osaka seems to have recovered her champions mindset
by
ponchi101 ashkor87 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 07, 2025 1:58 am
Rybakina has no extra gear..when it gets close...
I am too lazy to look up her third set record. But I believe it has to be appalling.
Being a fan of this girl is bad for your health.
by ashkor87 I dont think there is any problem with her third set record, Rybakina does win a lot of 3 setters.. but not against good players, when she is pressed... when her opponent raises her game, Rybakina cannot.
by
ponchi101 ashkor87 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 02, 2025 2:00 am
ashkor87 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 28, 2025 7:25 am
this court is rated significantly slower than average.. look for Anisimova, Swiatek, even Rybakina to do well here..Rybakina and Anisimova needa little more time to hit their shots, and neither is the quickest mover out there.. Swiatek is.. Swiatek... not clear how Coco will do, didnt do all that well at IW, where the court was slow, but did do well at RG, so who knows.. her game is adaptable enough..though I still think she will do better at Cinci than here, because the court there is significantly faster.
So far so good..all as expected/predicted
Wanted to check your prediction. It ended up being a bit mixed.
Rybakina did well, indeed. Losing in the SFs is not a bad result. Anisimova and Swiatek should have done better, especially Amanda. That loss to Svitolina, with that court, was no good.
Coco's loss will need time to be explained. If Mboko goes on to become a top 10 player in a relatively short time, it will be understandable. If she is a flash in the pan, well, this will be harder to accept.
The hard art of forecasting. Especially in the WTA.
by JTContinental Coco and Kessler did beat the current world #1 doubles player to take the title this week, so not all negative for Gauff.
by ti-amie Naomi has nothing to be ashamed of. She and her new coach seem like a good fit and I think he will have her ready for the US Open.
Both Naomi and Victoria started out nervous in the third set but Mboko recovered first and after Naomi hit a ball out in frustration the match was Victoria's who romped 6-1 in the third set.
For those going to the US Open good luck getting to see her play live because they'll be hanging from the rafters. The US Open has a tendency to underestimate the fan interest in players like Mboko and put them on smaller outside courts. The year Shapo beat Rafa in Canada they put him on Court 7 for his first match in the new configuration and they were sitting on the steps since the stands were full, a very dangerous situation.
I wonder what practice courts they'll assign her to and where they'll place her in the draw.
I also hope that Victoria sticks with the mostly female team she's with now.
by ti-amie
How?
You can see Naomi knew.
by ti-amie Meanwhile in Toronto...
by JTContinental Osaka pretty ungracious in that loss, especially after she tanked the end of that match. She’s one of my favorites, but that ain’t it, pig.
by ti-amie After that miraculous get she stopped playing.
by JTContinental It also makes me feel a little bit less sympathy for her over Serena’s histrionics in their US Open final, as she just did her best to take away Mboko’s joy of winning a big event for the first time
by ashkor87 Now Coco losing to Mboko looks a little less bad...
by ashkor87 Mboko beat 4 Major champions in a row..has that ever been done before?!
by
ashkor87 ashkor87 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 08, 2025 4:03 am
Mboko beat 4 Major champions in a row..has that ever been done before?!
i see that has been answered on another board...
by
skatingfan ashkor87 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 08, 2025 4:03 am
Mboko beat 4 Major champions in a row..has that ever been done before?!
It wasn't in a row - Bouzas Maniero was in the middle - but it has been done before in a single tournament.
by ashkor87 Never seen Osaka so grumpy after a match.. she was really upset.. wonder why? Crowd against her? losing to a kid?
by
ashkor87 ti-amie wrote: ↑Fri Aug 08, 2025 1:09 am
After that miraculous get she stopped playing.
it was already 5-1 though?
by jazzyg I have always found Osaka to be shockingly self-absorbed, even for a tennis player. I never get on other people for who they pull for because different opinions make the world go around, and my god, I pulled for Fognini, but it's been a mystery to me why Osaka in particular is a fan favorite. She consistently rubs me the wrong way, and her behavior last night reinforced that feeling.
by
jazzyg ashkor87 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 08, 2025 4:03 am
Mboko beat 4 Major champions in a row..has that ever been done before?!
Kournikova beat four slam champions in a row at the 1998 tournament in Key Biscayne--Seles, Martinez, Davenport and Sanchez-Vicarioi--before losing to Venus in three sets in the final. The trope on Kournikova, particularly from non-tennis people--is she was an over-hyped hack who only got attention because of the way she looked. She never won a tournament, but I'd say taking down those four and nearly beating Venus in the final trumped picking up random titles in Monterrey or San Diego.
by
ponchi101 ashkor87 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 08, 2025 1:58 am
Now Coco losing to Mboko looks a little less bad...
Totally. It becomes an acceptable loss, although the score is still a bit worrisome.
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martini4me ti-amie wrote: ↑Fri Aug 08, 2025 1:09 am
After that miraculous get she stopped playing.
ti-amie wrote: ↑Fri Aug 08, 2025 12:55 am
Both Naomi and Victoria started out nervous in the third set but Mboko recovered first and after Naomi hit a ball out in frustration the match was Victoria's who romped 6-1 in the third set.
ashkor87 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 08, 2025 6:57 am
Never seen Osaka so grumpy after a match.. she was really upset.. wonder why? Crowd against her? losing to a kid?
Osaka actually checked out early in the second set. Does anyone else listen to Cam Williams's Tennis Talk during matches? He seemed to think that Osaka was upset that the crowd was so clearly against her (as he said many times, "They're not cheering against you, Naomi, they're cheering for your opponent. It's not personal against you."). I don't know if it was after the point where she hit the ball out (and received a warning), but she was mentally out of it for the last half of the match. She could hit a blazing winner, or a bad error, and had absolutely no reaction either way. And then she started playing way too fast--at one point she seemed about to start her service motion WAY before Mboko was anywhere near ready.
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skatingfan martini4me wrote: ↑Fri Aug 08, 2025 10:16 pm
Osaka actually checked out early in the second set. Does anyone else listen to Cam Williams's Tennis Talk during matches?
Yes, I quite enjoy his commentary, and the community as well.