by ti-amie Tournament: Rolex Shanghai Masters
Location: Shanghai, China
Dates: 1 - 12 October, 2025
Tier: ATP M1000
Surface: Hard
Prize Money: $9,193,540
Entries
Seed* Name Current Ranking Entry Ranking
1 Jannik Sinner 1 1
2 Carlos Alcaraz 2 2
3 Alexander Zverev 3 3
4 Taylor Fritz 4 4
5 Jack Draper 5 5
6 Ben Shelton 6 6
7 Novak Djokovic 7 7
8 Alex de Minaur 8 8
9 Karen Khachanov 9 9
10 Lorenzo Musetti 10 10
11 Holger Rune 11 11
12 Casper Ruud 12 12
13 Daniil Medvedev 13 13
14 Tommy Paul 14 14
15 Andrey Rublev 15 15
16 Jakub Mensik 16 16
17 Frances Tiafoe 17 17
18 Alejandro Davidovich Fokina 18 18
19 Francisco Cerundolo 19 19
20 Arthur Fils 20 20
21 Jiri Lehecka 21 21
22 Tomas Machac 22 22
23 Ugo Humbert 23 23
24 Alexander Bublik 24 24
25 Grigor Dimitrov 25 25
26 Flavio Cobolli 26 26
27 Felix Auger-Aliassime 27 27
28 Stefanos Tsitsipas 28 28
29 Denis Shapovalov 29 29
30 Tallon Griekspoor 30 30
31 Brandon Nakashima 31 31
32 Alex Michelsen 32 32
Gabriel Diallo 33 33
Luciano Darderi 34 34
Cameron Norrie 35 35
Alexei Popyrin 36 36
Giovanni Mpetshi Perricard 37 37
Alexandre Muller 38 38
Sebastian Baez 39 39
Corentin Moutet 40 40
Nuno Borges 41 41
Miomir Kecmanovic 42 42
Camilo Ugo Carabelli 43 43
Jaume Munar 44 44
Joao Fonseca 45 45
Lorenzo Sonego 46 46
Roberto Bautista Agut 47 47
Zizou Bergs 48 48
Gael Monfils 49 49
Learner Tien 50 50
Benjamin Bonzi 51 51
Matteo Berrettini 52 52
Fabian Marozsan 53 53
Francisco Comesana 54 54
Marcos Giron 55 55
Daniel Altmaier 56 56
Hamad Medjedovic 57 57
Jordan Thompson 58 58
Tomas Martin Etcheverry 59 59
Jacob Fearnley 60 60
Damir Dzumhur 61 61
Marin Cilic 62 62
Marton Fucsovics 63 63
Matteo Arnaldi 64 64
Mattia Bellucci 65 65
Pedro Martinez 66 66
Reilly Opelka 67 67
Hubert Hurkacz 68 68
Terence Atmane 69 69
Quentin Halys 70 70
Aleksandar Kovacevic 71 71
Laslo Djere 72 72
Botic van de Zandschulp 73 73
Yunchaokete Bu 74 74
Sebastian Korda 75 75
Kamil Majchrzak 76 76
Jenson Brooksby 92 52 (PR)
Sebastian Ofner 140 74 (PR)
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(WC)
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(SE)
(Q)
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Alternates
Name Current Ranking Entry Ranking
1 Adrian Mannarino 77 77
2 Mariano Navone 78 78
3 Arthur Cazaux 79 79
4 David Goffin 80 80
5 Christopher O'Connell 81 81
6 Arthur Rinderknech 82 82
7 Jesper de Jong 83 83
8 Ethan Quinn 84 84
9 Adam Walton 85 85
10 Luca Nardi 86 86
11 Roberto Carballes Baena 87 87
12 Juan Manuel Cerundolo 88 88
13 Vit Kopriva 89 89
14 Kei Nishikori 90 90
15 Alexander Shevchenko 91 91
16 Jenson Brooksby 92 92
17 Filip Misolic 93 93
18 Roman Safiullin 94 94
19 Aleksandar Vukic 95 95
20 Tristan Schoolkate 96 96
Withdrawals
Name Current Ranking Entry Ranking
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by ashkor87 just a reminder - this court is rated the fastest on the tour.. significantly faster than Cinci..
by ti-amie UPDATED Entry Lists – MD Singles
Entries Seed Name Seeding Ranking Entry Ranking
1 Carlos Alcaraz 1 2
2 Jannik Sinner 2 1
3 Alexander Zverev 3 3
4 Novak Djokovic 4 7
5 Taylor Fritz 5 4
6 Ben Shelton 6 6
7 Alex de Minaur 8 8
8 Lorenzo Musetti 9 10
9 Karen Khachanov 10 9
10 Holger Rune 11 11
11 Casper Ruud 12 12
12 Felix Auger-Aliassime 13 27
13 Andrey Rublev 14 15
14 Alexander Bublik 16 24
15 Jiri Lehecka 17 21
16 Daniil Medvedev 18 13
17 Jakub Mensik 19 16
18 Alejandro Davidovich Fokina 20 18
19 Francisco Cerundolo 21 19
20 Tomas Machac 22 22
21 Ugo Humbert 24 23
22 Flavio Cobolli 25 26
23 Denis Shapovalov 26 29
24 Stefanos Tsitsipas 27 28
25 Frances Tiafoe 29 17
26 Luciano Darderi 30 34
27 Tallon Griekspoor 31 30
28 Alex Michelsen 32 32
29 Brandon Nakashima 33 31
30 Cameron Norrie 34 35
31 Gabriel Diallo 35 33
32 Giovanni Mpetshi Perricard 36 37
Corentin Moutet 37 40
Alexandre Muller 38 38
Jaume Munar 40 44
Sebastian Baez 41 39
Joao Fonseca 42 45
Camilo Ugo Carabelli 43 43
Lorenzo Sonego 44 46
Zizou Bergs 45 48
Miomir Kecmanovic 46 42
Benjamin Bonzi 47 51
Marcos Giron 48 55
Daniel Altmaier 50 56
Nuno Borges 51 41
Learner Tien 52 50
Arthur Rinderknech 54 82
Tomas Martin Etcheverry 55 59
Matteo Berrettini 56 52
Fabian Marozsan 57 53
Marton Fucsovics 58 63
Francisco Comesana 59 54
Adrian Mannarino 60 77
Reilly Opelka 61 67
Jacob Fearnley 62 60
Hamad Medjedovic 63 57
Mattia Bellucci 64 65
Kamil Majchrzak 65 76
Damir Dzumhur 66 61
Aleksandar Kovacevic 67 71
Terence Atmane 68 69
Hubert Hurkacz 69 68
Pedro Martinez 70 66
Matteo Arnaldi 73 64
Sebastian Korda 74 75
Quentin Halys 75 70
Jordan Thompson 78 58
Jesper de Jong 79 83
Arthur Cazaux 80 79
Mariano Navone 82 78
Laslo Djere 83 72
Botic van de Zandschulp 84 73
Jenson Brooksby 86 52 (PR)
David Goffin 87 80
Yunchaokete Bu 89 74
Marin Cilic 97 62
Christopher O'Connell 103 81
(WC) Stan Wawrinka 129
Sebastian Ofner 137 74 (PR)
(WC) Yibing Wu 158
(WC) Juncheng Shang 238
(WC) Yi Zhou 305
(WC) Zhizhen Zhang 370
(SE)
(Q)
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Alternates
Name Seeding Ranking Entry Ranking
1 Ethan Quinn 81 84
2 Adam Walton 77 85
3 Luca Nardi 85 86
4 Roberto Carballes Baena 113 87
5 Juan Manuel Cerundolo 71 88
6 Alexander Shevchenko 88 91
8 Filip Misolic 98 93
9 Aleksandar Vukic 95 95
10 Tristan Schoolkate 100 96
11 Dalibor Svrcina 91 97
12 Valentin Royer 76 98
13 Carlos Taberner 108 99
14 Mackenzie McDonald 96 100
15 Emilio Nava 90 101
16 Nicolas Jarry 111 102
17 Rinky Hijikata 112 103
18 Nishesh Basavareddy 107 104
19 James Duckworth 109 106
20 Raphael Collignon 93 107
Withdrawals
Name Seeding Ranking Entry Ranking
Jack Draper 7 5
Tommy Paul 15 14
Arthur Fils 23 20
Grigor Dimitrov 28 25
Alexei Popyrin 39 36
Roberto Bautista Agut 49 47
Gael Monfils 53 49
by ti-amie Qualifying Entry Lists
Entries Seed Name Seeding Ranking Entry Ranking
1 Juan Manuel Cerundolo 71 86
2 Alejandro Tabilo 72 125
3 Valentin Royer 76 90
4 Alexander Shevchenko 88 97
5 Dalibor Svrcina 91 100
6 Aleksandar Vukic 95 95
7 Mackenzie McDonald 96 99
8 Filip Misolic 98 94
9 Tristan Schoolkate 100 96
10 Nikoloz Basilashvili 104 111
11 Shintaro Mochizuki 106 104
12 Nishesh Basavareddy 107 108
13 James Duckworth 109 105
14 Rinky Hijikata 112 110
15 Brandon Holt 114 114
16 Liam Draxl 119 117
17 Tristan Boyer 120 106
18 Chun-Hsin Tseng 122 120
19 Eliot Spizzirri 128 129
20 Billy Harris 131 136
21 Colton Smith 135 133
22 Yosuke Watanuki 147 151
23 Ugo Blanchet 149 144
24 Harold Mayot 150 152
Zsombor Piros 151 154
Coleman Wong 153 148
Yoshihito Nishioka 157 153
Yannick Hanfmann 159 135
Taro Daniel 162 168
Giulio Zeppieri 163 171
Titouan Droguet 167 162
Bernard Tomic 169 164
August Holmgren 176 176
James McCabe 179 178
Christopher Eubanks 182 180
Kyrian Jacquet 183 181
Jason Kubler 187 186
Rei Sakamoto 190 189
Valentin Vacherot 202 205
James Trotter 212 187
Omar Jasika 255 198
Stefano Napolitano 520 160 (PR)
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Alternates Name Seeding Ranking Entry Ranking
1 Beibit Zhukayev 210 207
2 Rio Noguchi 209 214
3 Gauthier Onclin 192 215
4 Marc-Andrea Huesler 219 222
5 Sho Shimabukuro 273 223
6 Alex Bolt 221 229
7 Yasutaka Uchiyama 288 230
8 Mikhail Kukushkin 294 231
9 Timofey Skatov 232 235
10 Fajing Sun 225 236
11 Yu Hsiou Hsu 220 241
12 Elias Ymer 235 243
13 Viktor Durasovic 241 246
14 Marek Gengel 248 250
15 Ilia Simakin 250 251
16 Lloyd Harris 246 255
17 Jason Jung - 258 (PR)
18 Marat Sharipov 283 265
19 Matteo Martineau 296 267
20 Geoffrey Blancaneaux 262 272
Withdrawals Name Seeding Ranking Entry Ranking
Roman Safiullin 101 92
Borna Coric 110 107
Dino Prizmic 115 119
Zachary Svajda 130 130
Otto Virtanen 140 141
Michael Mmoh
by ashkor87 AND Fonseca is about 1600 points short of having a shot at qualifying for Turin...makes sense to focus on the future.. this season is over, pretty much.
by
skatingfan ashkor87 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 27, 2025 1:39 am
AND Fonseca is about 1600 points short of having a shot at qualifying for Turin...makes sense to focus on the future.. this season is over, pretty much.
But he's only a little over a hundred points out of a seeded position for the Australian Open, and he's not shutting down his season, he's just not going to Shanghai. There's 3 weeks of European indoor tournaments that they're focusing on.
by ti-amie Qualifying Singles Draw
1 TABILO, Alejandro CHI vs WC CUI, Jie CHN
WC SUN, Fajing CHN vs 22 MAYOT, Harold FRA
2 ROYER, Valentin FRA vs DROGUET, Titouan FRA
DANIEL, Taro JPN vs 18 HARRIS, Billy GBR
3 SVRCINA, Dalibor CZE vs ZEPPIERI, Giulio ITA
WC LIU, Hanyi CHN vs 20 WATANUKI, Yosuke JPN
4 VUKIC, Aleksandar AUS vs PR HARRIS, Lloyd RSA
NISHIOKA, Yoshihito JPN vs 23 PIROS, Zsombor HUN
5 MCDONALD, Mackenzie USA vs JASIKA, Omar AUS
SAKAMOTO, Rei JPN vs 13 HOLT, Brandon USA
6 MISOLIC, Filip AUT vs EUBANKS, Christopher USA
WC TE, Rigele CHN vs 21 BLANCHET, Ugo FRA
7 SCHOOLKATE, Tristan AUS vs MCCABE, James AUS
ZHUKAYEV, Beibit KAZ vs 19 SMITH, Colton USA
8 BASILASHVILI, Nikoloz GEO vs TOMIC, Bernard AUS
WC XIAO, Linang CHN vs 17 SPIZZIRRI, Eliot USA
9 MOCHIZUKI, Shintaro JPN vs HANFMANN, Yannick GER
KUBLER, Jason AUS vs 24 WONG, Coleman HKG
10 BASAVAREDDY, Nish… USA vs VACHEROT, Valentin MON
JACQUET, Kyrian FRA vs 14 DRAXL, Liam CAN
11 DUCKWORTH, James AUS vs Alt ONCLIN, Gauthier BEL
HOLMGREN, August DEN vs 16 TSENG, Chun-Hsin TPE
12 HIJIKATA, Rinky AUS vs PR NAPOLITANO, Stefano ITA
TROTTER, James JPN vs 15 BOYER, Tristan USA
by ti-amie Main Draw Singles
33 MOUTET, Corentin FRA/Bye
TIEN, Learner USA vs KECMANOVIC, Miomir SRB
CAZAUX, Arthur FRA vs MARTINEZ, Pedro ESP
Bye/30 NORRIE, Cameron GBR
18 DAVIDOVICH FOKINA, Al… ESP/Bye
ARNALDI, Matteo ITA vs Q SAKAMOTO, Rei JPN
WC WU, Yibing CHN vs Q SVRCINA, Dalibor CZE
Bye/16 MEDVEDEV, Daniil
9 KHACHANOV, Karen/Bye
KOVACEVIC, Aleksandar USA vs WC SHANG, Juncheng CHN
VAN DE ZANDSCHULP, B… NED vs BORGES, Nuno POR
Bye/24 TSITSIPAS, Stefanos GRE
29 NAKASHIMA, Brandon USA/Bye
MAJCHRZAK, Kamil POL vs QUINN, Ethan USA
UGO CARABELLI, Camilo ARG vs ATMANE, Terence FRA
Bye/7 DE MINAUR, Alex AUS
3 ZVEREV, Alexander GER/Bye
Q ROYER, Valentin FRA vs NAVONE, Mariano ARG
RINDERKNECH, Arthur FRA vs MEDJEDOVIC, Hamad SRB
Bye/28 MICHELSEN, Alex USA
23 SHAPOVALOV, Denis CAN/Bye
DZUMHUR, Damir BIH vs O'CONNELL, Christopher AUS
LL MCDONALD, Mackenzie USA vs HALYS, Quentin FRA
Bye/15 LEHECKA, Jiri CZE
12 AUGER-ALIASSIME, Felix CAN/Bye
GIRON, Marcos USA vs Q TABILO, Alejandro CHI
WC ZHOU, Yi CHN vs DE JONG, Jesper NED
Bye/17 MENSIK, Jakub CZE
26 DARDERI, Luciano ITA/Bye
BU, Yunchaokete CHN vs CERUNDOLO, Juan Manuel ARG
COMESANA, Francisco ARG vs Q BLANCHET, Ugo FRA
Bye/8 MUSETTI, Lorenzo ITA
by ti-amie Wednesday 01 October, 2025 (Day 3)
Stadium Court Starts At 12:30 PM
D. Goffin Vs A. Muller
Followed By
A. Mannarino Vs M. Berrettini
Not Before 6:30 PM
Z. Zhang (WC) Vs S. Baez
Followed By
F. Marozsan Vs (WC) S. Wawrinka
Grandstand 2 Starts At 12:30 PM
J. Munar Vs M. Fucsovics
Followed By
M. Cilic Vs (Q) N. Basilashvili
Followed By
S. Korda Vs Z. Bergs
Followed By
L. Sonego Vs (Q) Y. Hanfmann
Show Court 3 Starts At 12:30 PM
S. Ofner (PR) Vs L. Nardi
Not Before 2:00 PM
T. Schoolkate (Q) Vs D. Altmaier
Followed By
Y. Nishioka (Q) Vs A. Shevchenko
Court 4 Starts At 12:30 PM
A. Walton Vs M. Bellucci
Not Before 2:00 PM
J. Thompson Vs (Q) A. Holmgren
Followed By
L. Djere Vs (Q) V. Vachero]
by ashkor87 all the players are tired.. too much to expect them to play hard court tournament after tournament..
by ti-amie Thursday 02 October, 2025 (Day 4)
Stadium Court Starts At 12:30 PM
Y. Wu (WC) Vs (Q) D. Svrcina
Followed By
R. Opelka Vs B. Bonzi
Not Before 6:30 PM
A. Kovacevic Vs (WC) J. Shang
Followed By
Y. Bu Vs J. Cerundolo
Grandstand 2 Starts At 12:30 PM
J. Brooksby (PR) Vs (Q) J. Trotter
Followed By
Y. Zhou (WC) Vs J. de Jong
Followed By
M. Giron Vs (Q) A. Tabilo
Followed By
A. Rinderknech Vs H. Medjedovic
Show Court 3 Starts At 12:30 PM
B. van de Zandschulp Vs N. Borges
Followed By
A. Cazaux Vs P. Martinez
Followed By
M. McDonald (LL) Vs Q. Halys
Followed By
M. Arnaldi Vs (Q) R. Sakamoto
Court 4 Starts At 12:30 PM
C. Ugo Carabelli Vs T. Atmane
Followed By
D. Dzumhur Vs C. O'Connell
Followed By
V. Royer (Q) Vs M. Navone
Court 7 Starts At 12:30 PM
F. Comesana Vs (Q) U. Blanchet
Followed By
K. Majchrzak Vs E. Quinn
by ti-amie Friday 03 October, 2025 (Day 5)
Stadium Court Starts At 12:30 PM
R64
B. Shelton (6) Vs D. Goffin
Followed By
R64
S. Baez Vs (10) H. Rune
Not Before 6:30 PM
R64
M. Cilic Vs (4) N. Djokovic
Followed By
R64
T. Fritz (5) Vs F. Marozsan
Grandstand 2 Starts At 12:30 PM
R64
F. Tiafoe (25) Vs (Q) Y. Hanfmann
Followed By
R128
L. Tien Vs M. Kecmanovic
Followed By
R32
J. Shang/Z. Zhang (WC) Vs C. Moutet/A. Muller
Followed By
R64
Z. Bergs Vs (11) C. Ruud
Show Court 3 Starts At 12:30 PM
R64
B. Bonzi Vs (31) G. Diallo
Followed By
R64
F. Cerundolo (19) Vs A. Mannarino
Followed By
R32
M. Melo/A. Zverev Vs (WC) Y. Bu/R. Ho
Followed By
R64
A. Bublik (14) Vs (Q) V. Vacherot
Court 4 Starts At 12:30 PM
R32
N. Skupski/J. Smith Vs F. Auger-Aliassime/R. Haase
Followed By
R32
A. Pavlasek/F. Romboli Vs K. Khachanov/A. Rublev
Followed By
R64
L. Nardi Vs (32) G. Mpetshi Perricard
Followed By
R64
J. Munar Vs (22) F. Cobolli
Court 7 Starts At 12:30 PM
R32
M. Arevalo/M. Pavic (1) Vs (Alt) D. Altmaier/C. Ugo Carabelli
Followed By
R64
U. Humbert (21) Vs J. Thompson
Followed By
R64
M. Bellucci Vs (20) T. Machac
Followed By
R64
T. Griekspoor (27) Vs (PR) J. Brooksby
Court 6 Starts At 12:30 PM
R32
A. Goransson/A. Michelsen Vs (8) F. Cabral/L. Miedler
Followed By
R32
M. Gonzalez/A. Molteni (7) Vs S. Gonzalez/D. Pel
Followed By
R32
G. Diallo/B. Nakashima Vs (6) C. Harrison/E. King
by ashkor87 I really think Djokovic should play more 1000 level tournaments instead of trying for his 25th major, which he is not going to get anyway, with Sincaraz in the way.. but he can catch Federer in total number of titles won - as I have remarked earlier, Connors' record isnt real, it should be more like 85 or 90, not 109.
by ti-amie Saturday 04 October, 2025 (Day 6)
Stadium Court Starts At 12:30 PM
C. Ugo Carabelli Vs (7) A. de Minaur
Followed By
A. Zverev (3) Vs (Q) V. Royer
Not Before 6:30 PM
D. Altmaier Vs (2) J. Sinner
Followed By
K. Khachanov (9) Vs (WC) J. Shang
Grandstand 2 Starts At 12:30 PM
A. Rublev (13) Vs (Q) Y. Nishioka
Followed By
F. Comesana Vs (8) L. Musetti
Followed By
L. Darderi (26) Vs Y. Bu
Followed By
D. Svrcina (Q) Vs (16) D. Medvedev
Show Court 3 Starts At 12:30 PM
F. Auger-Aliassime (12) Vs (Q) A. Tabilo
Followed By
J. de Jong Vs (17) J. Mensik
Followed By
A. Cazaux Vs (30) C. Norrie
Followed By
N. Borges Vs (24) S. Tsitsipas
Court 4 Starts At 12:30 PM
Q. Halys Vs (15) J. Lehecka
Followed By
D. Shapovalov (23) Vs C. O'Connell
Followed By
C. Moutet (33) Vs L. Tien
Followed By
S. Bolelli/A. Vavassori (4) Vs J. Peers/J. Zielinski
Court 7 Starts At 12:30 PM
B. Nakashima (29) Vs K. Majchrzak
Followed By
A. Rinderknech Vs (28) A. Michelsen
Followed By
A. Davidovich Fokina (18) Vs M. Arnaldi
Court 6 Starts At 12:30 PM
A. Krajicek/N. Mektic Vs A. Erler/R. Galloway
Followed By
S. Arends/L. Johnson Vs (2) H. Heliovaara/H. Patten
Followed By
R. Arneodo/Z. Bergs Vs (Alt) J. Schnaitter/M. Wallner
by
ponchi101 ashkor87 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 03, 2025 5:26 am
I really think Djokovic should play more 1000 level tournaments instead of trying for his 25th major, which he is not going to get anyway, with Sincaraz in the way.. but he can catch Federer in total number of titles won - as I have remarked earlier,
Connors' record isnt real, it should be more like 85 or 90, not 109.
Why? He did not play those tournaments? The trophies were given to him without him actually playing the matches?
At the time, these were a hopscotch of tours and tournaments. He went and played, because that was the structure of the day. So, claiming that some of his titles are "meaningless" is a disservice. One of the great things that Connors did was to play a lot and everywhere, around the USA. He brought the sport out of the country club. He was a great ambassador to the sport, even with his confrontational personality (he was a boor, admittedly)
To take away as many as 25 titles from his achievements would be kind of insulting.
Agree that Djokovic should play more MS1000's. But, without the day's rest in between matches, his chances of winning one are slim. He is finally slowing down.
by ti-amie Sunday 05 October, 2025 (Day 7)
Stadium Court Starts At 12:30 PM
U. Humbert (21) Vs (10) H. Rune
Followed By
T. Fritz (5) Vs (32) G. Mpetshi Perricard
Not Before 6:30 PM
Y. Hanfmann (Q) Vs (4) N. Djokovic
Followed By
T. Griekspoor (27) Vs (2) J. Sinner
Grandstand 2 Starts At 12:30 PM
D. Goffin Vs (31) G. Diallo
Followed By
F. Cerundolo (19) Vs Z. Bergs
Followed By
Y. Nishioka (Q) Vs J. Munar
Followed By
V. Vacherot (Q) Vs (20) T. Machac
Show Court 3 Starts At 12:30 PM
R. Cash/J. Tracy Vs (WC) R. Bopanna/J. Rojer
Followed By
S. Gonzalez/D. Pel Vs C. Moutet/A. Muller
Followed By
K. Khachanov/A. Rublev Vs A. Goransson/A. Michelsen
Court 4 Starts At 12:30 PM
H. Nys/E. Roger-Vasselin (5) Vs (Alt) G. Andreozzi/M. Guinard
Followed By
S. Doumbia/F. Reboul Vs (3) K. Krawietz/T. Puetz
Followed By
F. Cerundolo/L. Darderi Vs Alternate/Alternate
by
ashkor87 ponchi101 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 04, 2025 1:46 pm
He did not play those tournaments?
many of them were invitationals, not open tournaments.. in todays world, they wouldnt be called tournaments at all.
by
ponchi101 They were called invitationals just for the marketing. They gave points.
The PGA still uses that trick. The Arnold Palmer Invitational actually keeps it to make it sound more exclusive. "Hey, you not only need to be a PGA pro, you need to be invited to this exclusive tournament".
C'mon, you and I are old enough to remember that
by ti-amie Monday 06 October, 2025 (Day 8)
Stadium Court Starts At 12:30 PM
K. Majchrzak Vs (7) A. de Minaur
Followed By
J. Shang (WC) Vs N. Borges
Not Before 6:30 PM
A. Zverev (3) Vs A. Rinderknech
Followed By
A. Davidovich Fokina (18) Vs (16) D. Medvedev
Grandstand 2 Starts At 12:30 PM
F. Auger-Aliassime (12) Vs J. de Jong
Followed By
D. Shapovalov (23) Vs (15) J. Lehecka
Followed By
L. Darderi (26) Vs (8) L. Musetti
Followed By
L. Tien Vs (30) C. Norrie
Show Court 3 Starts At 12:30 PM
A. Krajicek/N. Mektic Vs (6) C. Harrison/E. King
Followed By
M. Arevalo/M. Pavic (1) Vs N. Skupski/J. Smith
Followed By
J. Peers/J. Zielinski Vs (Alt) J. Schnaitter/M. Wallner
Followed By
Y. Bu/R. Ho (WC) Vs (2) H. Heliovaara/H. Patten
by ashkor87 high time the tour did something to protect players.. but I didnt know Shanghai could be this hot and humid?
by
ashkor87 ponchi101 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 04, 2025 1:46 pm
He was a great ambassador to the sport
I am old enough to remember that, when he was at his peak, he declined to play anywhere except 'challenge' matches against the likes of Laver and Newcombe. he thought he was too good for normal tournaments. His hubris was punished when Borg came along..that is not what you can call 'good for the game'
He was my contemporary at UCLA so I know his story well. He ws the kind of player who gave Americans a bad name around the world. 'Ugly American'
by ponchi101 Absolutely.
And he made the sport very popular. He was the guy that took the "country club" label off the sport, made it more accesible.
Everything you say? On the spot. Connors behaved on court like a bully on many occasions. Did he help the sport grow? Sure. Was he a boor? That too.
Then he was joined by Nastase and Mac and we know about those ugly days.
by
JTContinental ashkor87 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 06, 2025 4:04 am
high time the tour did something to protect players.. but I didnt know Shanghai could be this hot and humid?
I was there for 3 weeks during the fall, and it was high 90's in temperature with a steady mist-to-rain falling the entire time.
by
JTContinental ponchi101 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 06, 2025 12:04 pm
Absolutely.
And he made the sport very popular. He was the guy that took the "country club" label off the sport, made it more accesible.
Everything you say? On the spot. Connors behaved on court like a bully on many occasions. Did he help the sport grow? Sure. Was he a boor? That too.
Then he was joined by Nastase and Mac and we know about those ugly days.
Agreed Connor was a grade A ass, but if we were subtracting titles for that quality, Djokovic would also lose a large number of titles.
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ti-amie JTContinental wrote: ↑Mon Oct 06, 2025 8:44 pm
ashkor87 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 06, 2025 4:04 am
high time the tour did something to protect players.. but I didnt know Shanghai could be this hot and humid?
I was there for 3 weeks during the fall, and it was high 90's in temperature with a steady mist-to-rain falling the entire time.
by ti-amie Tuesday 07 October, 2025 (Day 9)
Stadium Court Starts At 12:30 PM
G. Diallo (31) Vs Z. Bergs
Followed By
G. Mpetshi Perricard (32) Vs (10) H. Rune
Not Before 6:30 PM
J. Munar Vs (4) N. Djokovic
Followed By
V. Vacherot (Q) Vs (27) T. Griekspoor
Show Court 3 Starts At 12:30 PM
R. Cash/J. Tracy Vs (3) K. Krawietz/T. Puetz
Followed By
G. Andreozzi/M. Guinard (Alt) Vs F. Cerundolo/L. Darderi
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ti-amie
Arthur Rinderknech after beating Alexander Zverev in Shanghai Masters: "It's tough for everyone. 50% of the matches are not finishing, and 50% of the matches are finishing with the guys cramping or vomiting. We're using an incredible amount of shirts, and thankfully, the laundry is working well."
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ashkor87 JTContinental wrote: ↑Mon Oct 06, 2025 8:46 pm
but if we were subtracting titles for that quality,
that is not the reason.. the reason is they were not all tournaments the way we understand it today.
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ashkor87 ponchi101 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 05, 2025 2:00 pm
They were called invitationals just for the marketing
no, the current system of 'official' tournaments hadnt yet taken hold.
by ponchi101 Ah, ok. So let's take tournaments away from Connors because he was not able to play in the system that is used today.
Totally his fault.
by ponchi101 Time to stop having players playing on a cement slab at noon. It is way too hot.
Start play at 4. And play a bit more into the night.
Even F1 is running races at night.
by ponchi101 Great. But where was Giovanni going? He was covering the volley where?
by ti-amie Wednesday 08 October, 2025 (Day 10)
Stadium Court Starts At 12:30 PM
A. Rinderknech Vs (15) J. Lehecka
Followed By
N. Borges Vs (7) A. de Minaur
Not Before 6:30 PM
F. Auger-Aliassime (12) Vs (8) L. Musetti
Followed By
L. Tien Vs (16) D. Medvedev
Show Court 3 Starts At 3:00 PM
QF
M. Arevalo/M. Pavic (1) Vs A. Krajicek/N. Mektic
Followed By
QF
J. Schnaitter/M. Wallner (Alt) Vs A. Goransson/A. Michelsen
by ashkor87 now I am down to predicting that people who are from hot, humid places like Australia, Florida, will do well! The eastern europeans wont - it is not about tennis any more!
by ti-amie Thursday 09 October, 2025 (Day 11)
Stadium Court Starts At 12:30 PM
QF
S. Gonzalez/D. Pel Vs (3) K. Krawietz/T. Puetz
Not Before 3:00 PM
QF
H. Rune (10) Vs (Q) V. Vacherot
Not Before 6:30 PM
QF
Z. Bergs Vs (4) N. Djokovic
Followed By
QF
G. Andreozzi/M. Guinard (Alt) Vs (2) H. Heliovaara/H. Patten
by Suliso And still all semi finalists are Europeans...
by ponchi101 Americans have many more options to make money as an athlete. The minimum salary for an NBA player is above $1MM. That is for a player that has not experience in the NBA.
Young athletes in the USA have no reason to go for tennis, financially.
by Suliso If that was the only criteria nobody would choose skiing or track and field. Clearly not the case.
by ponchi101 Some people do.
But for skiing, that is a very expensive sport. Not a lot of people can afford it. I would believe that it is more affordable in Europe, and therefore most skiing stars are European. Michaella Shiffrin is an exception, not the rule.
Track and field is of course cheap (relatively). So the USA has a great pool of athletes there. And they are making money.
by ti-amie Friday 10 October, 2025 (Day 12)
Stadium Court Starts At 12:30 PM
SF
M. Arevalo/M. Pavic (1) Vs A. Goransson/A. Michelsen
Not Before 3:00 PM
QF
A. Rinderknech Vs (12) F. Auger-Aliassime
Not Before 6:30 PM
QF
D. Medvedev (16) Vs (7) A. de Minaur
Followed By
ROGER & FRIENDS CELEBRITY DOUBLES - Roger Federer / Donnie Yen vs Wu Lei / Zheng Jie
by ti-amie Saturday 11 October, 2025 (Day 13)
Stadium Court Starts At 2:00 PM
SF
K. Krawietz/T. Puetz (3) Vs (Alt) G. Andreozzi/M. Guinard
Not Before 4:30 PM
SF
N. Djokovic (4) Vs (Q) V. Vacherot
Not Before 7:00 PM
SF
D. Medvedev (16) Vs A. Rinderknech
by Suliso Valentin Vacherot beating Djokovic to reach MS final? Guessing that two weeks ago would have been as likely as winning a lottery.
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skatingfan ti-amie wrote: ↑Sat Oct 11, 2025 12:09 am
And now they are playing the final.
by ponchi101 I am truly surprised for the score in the Djokovic match. Although it seems he was injured.
That body can't heal as quickly as before
And a little bit of a data point that, if you take J/C out of the equation, the parity in the ATP is also pretty good. Although I say that a healthy Novak is still #3 in the world.
by Owendonovan Rankings bonanza for those two.
by ti-amie Sunday 12 October, 2025 (Day 14)
Stadium Court Starts At 2:00 PM
F
A. Goransson/A. Michelsen Vs (3) K. Krawietz/T. Puetz
Not Before 4:30 PM
F
A. Rinderknech Vs (Q) V. Vacherot
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Fastbackss ti-amie wrote: ↑Thu Oct 09, 2025 11:51 pm
Friday 10 October, 2025 (Day 12)
Stadium Court Starts At 12:30 PM[/b
Followed By
ROGER & FRIENDS CELEBRITY DOUBLES - Roger Federer / Donnie Yen vs Wu Lei / Zheng Jie
Makes more sense after listening to the interview with Roger's agent on Served podcast
by ponchi101 Let's see if Vacherot has arrived, or if he is the Roberto Carretero of this decade.
That was a well played match.